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751 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:12

T.R.O.Y


Tony Kelly
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karlypants wrote:
MartinBWFC wrote:
T.R.O.Y wrote:Question is, who could do a better job under these circumstances?
So you're saying that only Parkinson can get a tune out of this squad? well newsflash he's getting jack shit out of this squad.

He's had three goes at managing at this level and failed miserably at all three, so let's blame the players hey.

So to question who could do better under the circumstances is futile as it's clear most managers could.
I don’t know why you bother replying to him.

He gets a kick out of being an argumentative cock. Smile

So anybody suggesting a line other than, ‘Parkinson should be sacked ASAP’ is an ‘argumentative cock Smile‘?

This shutting down of debate is what’s cost the forum half its posters, I’d suggest you wind that attitude in Karlypants.

752 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:13

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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T.R.O.Y wrote:
karlypants wrote:
MartinBWFC wrote:
T.R.O.Y wrote:Question is, who could do a better job under these circumstances?
So you're saying that only Parkinson can get a tune out of this squad? well newsflash he's getting jack shit out of this squad.

He's had three goes at managing at this level and failed miserably at all three, so let's blame the players hey.

So to question who could do better under the circumstances is futile as it's clear most managers could.
I don’t know why you bother replying to him.

He gets a kick out of being an argumentative cock. Smile

So anybody suggesting a line other than, ‘Parkinson should be sacked ASAP’ is an ‘argumentative cock Smile‘?

This shutting down of debate is what’s cost the forum half its posters, I’d suggest you wind that attitude in Karlypants.
You are a prick mate but I will say no more now for the sake of others.

753 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:20

T.R.O.Y


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Because other posters can't handle reading your harsh words? Feel free to message me, can't wait to read it.

754 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:23

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:Question is, who could do a better job under these circumstances?

No, the question is, who could do any worse?

755 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:24

MartinBWFC

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El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Natasha Whittam wrote:
No, the question is, who could do any worse?
Answer is not many.

756 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:29

T.R.O.Y


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Natasha Whittam wrote:
T.R.O.Y wrote:Question is, who could do a better job under these circumstances?

No, the question is, who could do any worse?

Getting out of League one was far from a given, I'm sure if we looked back at your comments at the beginning of 16/17 you'd back that up. 

My point being, we could easily be languishing in mid table league one having the same argument about our third manager since PP came in. Plenty could have done a worse job.

Is he the man to take us forward? Probably not. Could many get us further than relegation scrappers, I really doubt it.

757 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:40

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
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Obviously I mean grace period not grave. Don't think the fans would bury Nolan just yet.

758 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:49

T.R.O.Y


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Hipster_Nebula wrote:Obviously I mean grace period not grave. Don't think the fans would bury Nolan just yet.

Give him a month in the hot seat.

759 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:50

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:Getting out of League one was far from a given, I'm sure if we looked back at your comments at the beginning of 16/17 you'd back that up. 

My point being, we could easily be languishing in mid table league one having the same argument about our third manager since PP came in. Plenty could have done a worse job.

Is he the man to take us forward? Probably not. Could many get us further than relegation scrappers, I really doubt it.

League 1 is what he knows, and that's probably his level.

He has undoubtedly had to operate on a budget, but too many of his signings have been poor. How many of his signings since we gained promotion can you say have done well? Karl Henry definitely, but the rest have been underwhelming at best.

But money aside, some of his team selections and tactics have been baffling. Lumping it to Le Fondre? Lumping it to Ameobi? Yes, he lost his target man to Cardiff, but a manager has to adapt, and Parky has failed miserably. The continued selection of Buckley and Beevers despite both being terrible...I don't get it.

An average team with little quality can go a long way on commitment with a tactically astute manager at the helm. We have neither.

760 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 19:58

MartinBWFC

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El Hadji Diouf
Natasha Whittam wrote:
An average team with little quality can go a long way on commitment with a tactically astute manager at the helm. We have neither.
For proof of that look no further than Millwall.

761 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:09

T.R.O.Y


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Natasha Whittam wrote:
T.R.O.Y wrote:Getting out of League one was far from a given, I'm sure if we looked back at your comments at the beginning of 16/17 you'd back that up. 

My point being, we could easily be languishing in mid table league one having the same argument about our third manager since PP came in. Plenty could have done a worse job.

Is he the man to take us forward? Probably not. Could many get us further than relegation scrappers, I really doubt it.

League 1 is what he knows, and that's probably his level.

He has undoubtedly had to operate on a budget, but too many of his signings have been poor. How many of his signings since we gained promotion can you say have done well? Karl Henry definitely, but the rest have been underwhelming at best.

But money aside, some of his team selections and tactics have been baffling. Lumping it to Le Fondre? Lumping it to Ameobi? Yes, he lost his target man to Cardiff, but a manager has to adapt, and Parky has failed miserably. The continued selection of Buckley and Beevers despite both being terrible...I don't get it.

An average team with little quality can go a long way on commitment with a tactically astute manager at the helm. We have neither.

Agree with most of that Nat. 

But realistically, do you think this squads any better than bottom 4? 

The lack of quality is frightening, and as mentioned previously you (largely) get what you pay for in football. No money to spend and such a tight wage cap is going to limit what you can do with a team.

Martin, if you want an example of the advantage Millwall have over us look at them beating us to James Meredith - wage cap in action.

762 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:17

Boggersbelief

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Sack Parkinson and bring in Nolan?

Fuck sake

763 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:21

MartinBWFC

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Boggersbelief wrote:Sack Parkinson and bring in Nolan?

Fuck sake
When it comes to football matters you'd be the last poster I'd be listening to.

764 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:23

MartinBWFC

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T.R.O.Y wrote:
Martin, if you want an example of the advantage Millwall have over us look at them beating us to James Meredith - wage cap in action.
So is Meredith the reason Millwall are chasing play offs, and we are scrapping at the bottom?

765 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:28

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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T.R.O.Y wrote:But realistically, do you think this squads any better than bottom 4? 

The lack of quality is frightening, and as mentioned previously you (largely) get what you pay for in football. No money to spend and such a tight wage cap is going to limit what you can do with a team.


This squad is definitely bottom 6, and maybe even bottom 4, but there's no doubt they have underperformed for large parts of the season. Add into the mix some questionable tactics and team selection from the manager.

I just feel a manager with a bit more nous would have kept us up comfortably.

766 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:32

Natasha Whittam

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I'd love our next boss to be an experienced Championship manager, but the truth is it's unlikely Bolton would be a good prospect for anyone in that category unless they'd been out of the game for ages i.e. Billy Davies.

Therefore, our next manager should be someone from the lower leagues with a recent history of success, and someone who would see Bolton as a step up. There are plenty of good managers in Leagues 1 & 2 working minor miracles on a nothing budget. Time to give someone a chance.

767 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:43

MartinBWFC

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Natasha Whittam wrote:

Therefore, our next manager should be someone from the lower leagues with a recent history of success, and someone who would see Bolton as a step up. There are plenty of good managers in Leagues 1 & 2 working minor miracles on a nothing budget. Time to give someone a chance.
I've said before those brothers at Lincoln would be a good bet, Nolan would be a huge improvement on Parkinson, Jones at Luton all better managers than Parkinson in my eyes.

768 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:49

Hipster_Nebula

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Mark Robins is someone I'd look at.

769 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:50

MartinBWFC

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El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Hipster_Nebula wrote:Mark Robins is someone I'd look at.
Keep your sexual fantasies away from a football thread.

770 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 20:54

T.R.O.Y


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
MartinBWFC wrote:
Natasha Whittam wrote:

Therefore, our next manager should be someone from the lower leagues with a recent history of success, and someone who would see Bolton as a step up. There are plenty of good managers in Leagues 1 & 2 working minor miracles on a nothing budget. Time to give someone a chance.
I've said before those brothers at Lincoln would be a good bet, Nolan would be a huge improvement on Parkinson, Jones at Luton all better managers than Parkinson in my eyes.

All valid suggestions, and ones I’d like us to look at. But whether they’d do a better job than Parkinson you’ve no idea.

771 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 21:47

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Nat Lofthouse
MartinBWFC wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:Sack Parkinson and bring in Nolan?

Fuck sake
When it comes to football matters you'd be the last poster I'd be listening to.

Cock

772 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 23:19

MartinBWFC

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El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Boggersbelief wrote:
MartinBWFC wrote:
Boggersbelief wrote:Sack Parkinson and bring in Nolan?

Fuck sake
When it comes to football matters you'd be the last poster I'd be listening to.

Cock
No thank's

773 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Sun Apr 22 2018, 23:33

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Mario Jardel
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I’m happy to keep Parky personally but playing devil’s advocate what would people think the chances are of prising Clough Jr from Burton and would you be happy with it?

774 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Mon Apr 23 2018, 11:26

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I like Clough Jnr,but,for me,he'll never be anything but a League 1 manager.

775 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Mon Apr 23 2018, 11:46

MartinBWFC

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El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Bolton Rebirth wrote:I’m happy to keep Parky personally but playing devil’s advocate what would people think the chances are of prising Clough Jr from Burton and would you be happy with it
Happy to keep Parkinson? firstly, why? secondly you name one manager, there must be dozens out there that are better than Parkinson, but if you're happy to put up with dross on a weekly basis then carry on.

776 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Mon Apr 23 2018, 11:57

Natasha Whittam

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I don't believe anyone who pays to watch Bolton can say they are happy with Parky. The football is soul destroying.

777 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Mon Apr 23 2018, 12:09

Hipster_Nebula

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Mark Robins would make this team solid.

Used to dealing with the worst possible circumstance at Coventry and still has them able to compete.

778 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Mon Apr 23 2018, 12:19

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Nat Lofthouse
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Natasha Whittam wrote:I don't believe anyone who pays to watch Bolton can say they are happy with Parky. The football is soul destroying.
 
i agree with Nat on this one

779 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Mon Apr 23 2018, 20:18

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Mario Jardel
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The football is crap, we’re in complete agreement on that. But are we really in a position to be demanding a certain type of football? I am happy with him because on his first season we were promoted and if we survive this season I’d say that’s two seasons where it’s job done. If we stay up and are in the same situation a year on would I say the same? Probably not. If we do survive though Ken needs to find funds from somewhere or it will be this again and again.

780 Re: Ken Anderson - update. on Mon Apr 23 2018, 20:24

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Bolton Rebirth wrote:The football is crap, we’re in complete agreement on that. But are we really in a position to be demanding a certain type of football?

Yes, because the current type of football is rarely successful.

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