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1 Other football - news and views. on Thu Aug 24 2017, 14:46

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I had plans to make more of talking about 'other football' a bigger feature on here than have it as a sticky in this part of the forum but I really needed someone who as an interest in football across the board (other than Bolton focused like many of us are) but I can't find anyone interested enough to do it, so until someone puts their hand up to volunteer, this is I guess better than the nothing we had before!

Two bits of news today - England squad named and Ibrahimovic resigns for United.

Yesterdays news being Rooney retires from playing for England

Ibrahimovic - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41040655

England -



Rooney - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41029594


Anybody got any views on any of the above?

My opinions fwiw -

Ibrahimovic - I was quite impressed with him last season - United's got the money to pay his wages - so why not resign him - good business for them

England - Seems to be something wrong picking new players yet asking Rooney to return and naming Defoe - time to let the past go imo - and go with the next generation.

Rooney - past his best, retirement from internationals will help prolong his club career.  I've always liked Rooney - great player imo.



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2 Re: Other football - news and views. on Thu Aug 24 2017, 15:59

wanderlust

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I think Ibra is a great player, however I'm wondering if he'll be on the same astronomical wages  he was on last year given that there's talk of involvement with coaching and that on the pitch he's more likely to be a bit part player than a regular starter. I can't imagine that coaches would ever get £10.5 million a year, but there again it is Man United.

3 Re: Other football - news and views. on Thu Aug 24 2017, 16:25

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Not sure why Southgate has included so many goalies in what is otherwise a mediocre, albeit young bar Defoe squad - I'm not seeing much steel in midfield and perhaps a place could have been used for that instead?
I suppose the youth element is partially due to his work with the U21s and in theory you could get a decent team out of it so perhaps he's looking to build for Euro 2020 rather than looking for success in Russia?

4 Re: Other football - news and views. on Fri Aug 25 2017, 01:15

wanderlust

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Check out Gilfy Sigurdsson's stunning goal for Everton v Hadjuk Split. Wow.

5 Re: Other football - news and views. on Mon Aug 28 2017, 18:15

terenceanne

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Ibrahimovic - If he was healthy he would have had six by now the way Utd are currently playing. 

Rooney - Seems to be past it, probably better off retired from duty.

England - Not big on Southgate but I'll give him a chance. Seems like another in a long line of Football League Yes Men.

6 Re: Other football - news and views. on Mon Aug 28 2017, 18:31

Fabians Right Peg

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Johny Evans, so Leicester and Citeh are adamant on flushing more cash down the toilet to sign a player who couldn't make it at a 'top' club in the past.

£23m for a 29 year old seems ridiculous to me.

7 Re: Other football - news and views. on Mon Aug 28 2017, 19:47

terenceanne

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Fabians Right Peg wrote:Johny Evans, so Leicester and Citeh are adamant on flushing more cash down the toilet to sign a player who couldn't make it at a 'top' club in the past.

£23m for a 29 year old seems ridiculous to me.

I have no idea what City are looking at ........

While we at it Arsenal think Rob Holding is a top six Center Back.......They might know somat we don't.

8 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 11:57

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Sterling for Sanchez has to be the most unfair swap deal in football history

9 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 17:41

wanderlust

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Huddersfield failed to take our record as the only newly promoted premier league team to win their first three games after being held by Southampton.

10 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 17:45

wanderlust

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Kane57 wrote:Sterling for Sanchez has to be the most unfair swap deal in football history
But it wouldn't be a swap would it?

11 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 18:31

Fabians Right Peg

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I think Sanchez to Citeh may make the premier league a competition, but without it Man Utd look clear favourites from what I have seen.

12 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 19:53

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During the City game this weekend Sterling miscontroled a pass for the umpteen time and the camera cut to the managers dugout, he had his hands over his face and shaking of the head. I said to myself Sterling is history right there.   
He's overrated anyhow IMO.

13 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 20:20

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Sterling is a rubbish footballer, all pace and not much else.

But the biggest joke of this transfer window is Oxlade-Chamberlain to Chelsea for a reported £40m. Absolutely incredible that anyone would pay real money for this guy. Ignoring the fact that he always seems to be injured, he's just another rubbish footballer. What has he ever done? Has he ever had two good games in the same season? His performance on Sunday was dire.

Football has gone mad when £40m can only buy you Oxlade-Chamberlain. What next, Darren Pratley signs for Man Utd for £100m?

14 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 20:32

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Natasha Whittam wrote:Sterling is a rubbish footballer, all pace and not much else.

But the biggest joke of this transfer window is Oxlade-Chamberlain to Chelsea for a reported £40m. Absolutely incredible that anyone would pay real money for this guy. Ignoring the fact that he always seems to be injured, he's just another rubbish footballer. What has he ever done? Has he ever had two good games in the same season? His performance on Sunday was dire.

Football has gone mad when £40m can only buy you Oxlade-Chamberlain. What next, Darren Pratley signs for Man Utd for £100m?
You cow! Fancy getting my hopes up like that.
I've been avoiding Nuts,but this is too much.

15 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 21:07

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Natasha Whittam wrote:Sterling is a rubbish footballer, all pace and not much else.

But the biggest joke of this transfer window is Oxlade-Chamberlain to Chelsea for a reported £40m. Absolutely incredible that anyone would pay real money for this guy. Ignoring the fact that he always seems to be injured, he's just another rubbish footballer. What has he ever done? Has he ever had two good games in the same season? His performance on Sunday was dire.

Football has gone mad when £40m can only buy you Oxlade-Chamberlain. What next, Darren Pratley signs for Man Utd for £100m?

I have to go back to sleep ....... I had a dream that Nat agreed with somat I said.......

And I agree about Ox also.

16 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Aug 29 2017, 22:36

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Arsenal have rejected a £50m bid from Premier League rivals Manchester City for forward Alexis Sanchez.
The 28-year-old, who scored 24 Premier League goals last season, is out of contract next summer and wants to play for City manager Pep Guardiola.
Arsenal have rebuffed all approaches for Sanchez, and would like City's Raheem Sterling as part of any deal before Thursday's transfer deadline.
But Guardiola is understood to want the Chilean as a straight purchase.
England forward Sterling, 22, has featured in all three of City's games so far this season.
However he is not guaranteed a starting role at Etihad Stadium following the summer arrival of Bernardo Silva from Monaco.
BBC Sport understands Sterling would be interested in moving back to London should he become part of the Sanchez deal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41084876

17 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 12:42

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IMO Oxlade-Chamberlain has improved since he  learned to defend reasonably well in addition to getting forward and whilst the fee is ridiculous (aren't they all?) he's developed into a dependable player with pace, occasional  moments of brilliance and a genuine attacking threat. 
Obviously he doesn't feature in attacking play as much as he used to, but he does a good job and is rated by managers in the same way as Milner - once an out and out winger himself - still is.
Stupid fee but I can understand why Chelsea might want him seeing as they have the dosh to do it.

18 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 12:44

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wanderlust wrote:IMO Oxlade-Chamberlain has improved since he  learned to defend reasonably well in addition to getting forward and whilst the fee is ridiculous (aren't they all?) he's developed into a dependable player with pace, occasional  moments of brilliance and a genuine attacking threat. 
Obviously he doesn't feature in attacking play as much as he used to, but he does a good job and is rated by managers in the same way as Milner - once an out and out winger himself - still is.
Stupid fee but I can understand why Chelsea might want him seeing as they have the dosh to do it.

Arsenal fans seem to think it's the deal of the decade if they get £40m for him.

One fan wrote about Ox this morning: £40m for a player who can't pass, cross or shoot?

He is clearly a Bolton player of the future.

19 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 13:01

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Natasha Whittam wrote:
wanderlust wrote:IMO Oxlade-Chamberlain has improved since he  learned to defend reasonably well in addition to getting forward and whilst the fee is ridiculous (aren't they all?) he's developed into a dependable player with pace, occasional  moments of brilliance and a genuine attacking threat. 
Obviously he doesn't feature in attacking play as much as he used to, but he does a good job and is rated by managers in the same way as Milner - once an out and out winger himself - still is.
Stupid fee but I can understand why Chelsea might want him seeing as they have the dosh to do it.

Arsenal fans seem to think it's the deal of the decade if they get £40m for him.

One fan wrote about Ox this morning: £40m for a player who can't pass, cross or shoot?

He is clearly a Bolton player of the future.
Maybe when hes 45

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20 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 14:04

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21 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 14:46

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Eh?

He's in talks with LIVERPOOL

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Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain started Arsenal's defeat at Anfield last weekend
Liverpool have opened talks with Arsenal over a move for midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.
The 24-year-old England international rejected a move to Chelsea on Tuesday after a £40m fee was agreed.
Oxlade-Chamberlain sees his future as a central midfielder and feels he is more likely to get that chance at Anfield.
It remains to be seen whether Liverpool are prepared to match Chelsea's offer for a player who would be available on a free transfer next summer.
Oxlade-Chamberlain has started each of Arsenal's four games so far this season despite telling manager Arsene Wenger he would not sign a new contract.
He was applauded warmly by the Liverpool fans after he was substituted during Arsenal's 4-0 defeat at Anfield on Sunday.
The midfielder has made 198 appearances for Arsenal since joining them from Southampton in August 2011.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41098529

22 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 14:51

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Sluffy wrote:Eh?

He's in talks with LIVERPOOL

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Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain started Arsenal's defeat at Anfield last weekend
Liverpool have opened talks with Arsenal over a move for midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.
The 24-year-old England international rejected a move to Chelsea on Tuesday after a £40m fee was agreed.
Oxlade-Chamberlain sees his future as a central midfielder and feels he is more likely to get that chance at Anfield.
It remains to be seen whether Liverpool are prepared to match Chelsea's offer for a player who would be available on a free transfer next summer.
Oxlade-Chamberlain has started each of Arsenal's four games so far this season despite telling manager Arsene Wenger he would not sign a new contract.
He was applauded warmly by the Liverpool fans after he was substituted during Arsenal's 4-0 defeat at Anfield on Sunday.
The midfielder has made 198 appearances for Arsenal since joining them from Southampton in August 2011.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41098529
We know. He's currently 1-5 to join the Scousers which doesn't in anyway affect the content of the video produced by some deluded Chelsea fan.

23 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 15:13

wanderlust

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Boro have signed Ryan Shotton ahead of our game with them. Decent defender IMO.

24 Re: Other football - news and views. on Wed Aug 30 2017, 18:37

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crazy money for a player who can leave for free next summer and doesn't even know what his best position is.

25 Re: Other football - news and views. on Mon Sep 04 2017, 20:02

Fabians Right Peg

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England making a meal of another international, can't even handle vladamir Weiss, the guy must be well into his 30's by now.

26 Re: Other football - news and views. on Mon Sep 04 2017, 20:38

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Didn't Weiss go to Rangers after he left us? Not heard from him for some time.

As for football in general and the Premier League in particular, if proof were ever needed that some clubs have more money than sense, look no further at the ridiculous fee bid by City for the services of Johnny Evans. Good God! I was always led to believe that Pep is one of the greatest club managers of all time? Good Evans!

27 Re: Other football - news and views. on Mon Sep 04 2017, 21:35

Fabians Right Peg

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I will see you Evans (which I also thought was ridiculous), and raise you a £6m, 1 year loan fee for Divock Origi.

28 Re: Other football - news and views. on Mon Sep 04 2017, 22:09

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Fabians Right Peg wrote:I will see you Evans (which I also thought was ridiculous), and raise you a £6m, 1 year loan fee for Divock Origi.

Done!

29 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Sep 05 2017, 00:42

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Great test for England who are still unconvincing.
Have to say that Slovakia played some fantastic stuff in passages though.

30 Re: Other football - news and views. on Tue Sep 05 2017, 15:19

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I was surprised to see that a lot of the papers focused on Rashford today. TBH I thought he had a stinker apart from the one shot that went in. He was taking corners that were overhit or short, a free kick that almost cleared the stands and he gave the ball away constantly. 
I know he has a lot of fans (notably Hoddle!) but I think he has - like the rest of the England team - a lot to prove and a long way to go before he can be considered world class.

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