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31 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 13:20

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can't see it myself Lusty, they've had a decent start and beat Sunderland away on Saturday  Crying or Very sad

32 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 13:36

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Sunderland are in freefall so I wouldn't read too much into that result.

Our problem is that we have a very unbalanced team for what Parkinson wants to play - far too many wingers and no defensive midfielders to speak of.

I guess he needs to crowd out midfield and work on set pieces for our goal chances.

Hardly sexy football for the fans then.

33 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 14:28

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Nicolas Anelka
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It's going to be a shit game with shit weather. One of those nights when you wonder why you bother.

34 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 14:59

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Kane57 wrote:It's going to be a shit game with shit weather. One of those nights when you wonder why you bother.

To be honest, when we secured promotion against Peterborough I still left wondering why I bother. I get little satisfaction from it.

I think the years and years of complete shite have taken part of my soul.

35 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 16:22

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Norpig wrote:can't see it myself Lusty, they've had a decent start and beat Sunderland away on Saturday  Crying or Very sad
Me neither but we live in hope. I just think that with us having to go to the arse end of the universe on Saturday - where we always seem to lose narrowly - a win tonight is necessary if we aren't going to be cast adrift by the time Brentford come to town.

BTW anyone going to Ipswich? I'm thinking about it but not sure I can be arsed. It's a shithole, we've lost the last 3 times I've been there and those horse mascots get on my tits.

36 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 16:31

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It's going to be a draw.

I can feel a point coming but that's the best we will do.

37 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 16:39

Norpig

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wanderlust wrote:
Norpig wrote:can't see it myself Lusty, they've had a decent start and beat Sunderland away on Saturday  Crying or Very sad
Me neither but we live in hope. I just think that with us having to go to the arse end of the universe on Saturday - where we always seem to lose narrowly - a win tonight is necessary if we aren't going to be cast adrift by the time Brentford come to town.

BTW anyone going to Ipswich? I'm thinking about it but not sure I can be arsed. It's a shithole, we've lost the last 3 times I've been there and those horse mascots get on my tits.
i don't really want to go to Horwich at the moment nevermind Ipswich 

If you go, you can prove to Nat you aren't an armchair fan all the time  Very Happy

38 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 16:55

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Can't say as I'm confident of getting even a draw tonight. I'm guessing it'll be the same story as always. The pressing needs to be good enough to stop Sheff Utd playing and force mistakes and the build up needs to be quicker, it always seems to be slow and laboured. Look forward to pick passes rather than going sideways or backwards. Not sure if it's the training or the fitness levels but we look a million miles behind all the other teams in this division.

39 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 17:15

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Norpig wrote:
wanderlust wrote:
Norpig wrote:can't see it myself Lusty, they've had a decent start and beat Sunderland away on Saturday  Crying or Very sad
Me neither but we live in hope. I just think that with us having to go to the arse end of the universe on Saturday - where we always seem to lose narrowly - a win tonight is necessary if we aren't going to be cast adrift by the time Brentford come to town.

BTW anyone going to Ipswich? I'm thinking about it but not sure I can be arsed. It's a shithole, we've lost the last 3 times I've been there and those horse mascots get on my tits.
i don't really want to go to Horwich at the moment nevermind Ipswich 

If you go, you can prove to Nat you aren't an armchair fan all the time  Very Happy
One thing about being in the Championship is I always enjoy watching us getting battered at Ipswich and Norwich. The sad thing is I've never seen us actually win at either venue in either the Championship or PL but I did go to Ipswich when we won in the FA Cup years ago when Stelios and Pedersen scored. Since then it's been an absolute drought for us in East Anglia.
Maybe I shouldn't go and our luck might change?

40 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 17:51

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Go Wander, they need your money

41 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 19:42

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42 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 19:43

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43 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 19:52

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gloswhite wrote:Go Wander, they need your money
You're starting to sound like Anderson Glos  Very Happy

44 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 21:52

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Tony Kelly
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Absolute shit......that is all.

45 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 21:52

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Fuck off Parkinson you clueless tw@t.

46 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 21:54

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I've lost 500 quid in the betting shop because of you Parky!

You couldn't even get a draw you tit head!!!

47 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 21:55

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God knows why he was awarded with a new contract.

48 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 21:56

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No shots on target yet again in a home game, that is fucking unforgivable, Parkinson is just a poor mans Freedman.

49 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 23:19

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Much better effort from the whole team today. Plenty of positives to take but lacking a creative spark.
The defence was more solid without Darby in it and the midfield was better without Pratley.
Madine was a work horse again and did well. Robinson at left back looked like a different player to the one against Borough.
Far more pleasing too be at the game tonight.
Just a little slow in the build up sometimes but at least we were getting stuck in more and we were also better at relaxing and having some possession.
Deserved a draw.

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50 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 23:23

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My first game of this season. 

Not impressed by Karacan, Buckley or Cullen, but Robinson, Little and Madine did well.

51 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 23:26

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It does not matter who he plays or what formation. This lot of players are not up to it.
Morais was a legend last season but has not beat a full back and put a cross in.
Even Millwall are picking points up. I'm afraid we are going down unless the embargo goes and money is given to the manager..
Those calling for Parkinson's heads are foolish. As I've said before you can't turn selling platers in to Derby runners.
What do people expect.
I think Parky has done well to get us in to the Championship.Brentford will be a massive game.
The Natasha Whittams of this world need to spend more intimate time with her Rampant Rabitt,and leave Parky alone.

52 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 23:32

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#BWFC v #TwitterBlades
Goals: 0-1
Possession: 50%-50%
Shots: 13-8
On Target: 2-3
Corners: 3-2
Fouls: 14-14
Yellow Cards: 3-1
Red Cards: 0-0

53 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Tue Sep 12 2017, 23:43

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Nicolas Anelka
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Oh yeah and Attwell is a twat

54 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Wed Sep 13 2017, 03:23

DEANO82


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Wanderers for 45 wrote:
Morais was a legend last season but has not beat a full back and put a cross in.
Morais didn't beat many full backs last season either. Only had a lot of assists because we scored from corners and free kicks. Had 1 assist from open play. 

This season we are playing against teams that can defend corners.

55 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Wed Sep 13 2017, 07:36

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Nicolas Anelka
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DEANO82 wrote:
Wanderers for 45 wrote:
Morais was a legend last season but has not beat a full back and put a cross in.
Morais didn't beat many full backs last season either. Only had a lot of assists because we scored from corners and free kicks. Had 1 assist from open play. 

This season we are playing against teams that can defend corners.

Like a few others, he's playing a league above his natural level

56 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Wed Sep 13 2017, 07:54

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garbage again, Madine put a shift in as usual, but Armstrong failed to get anywhere near him so no link up play, at one point he was screaming at others to push up and close down but the midfield where happy to sit on the half way line.

Karacan is almost as poor as Pratley, Cullen is hiding in a team that is struggling, picks the ball up in his own third and passes sideways, Morais was wasted when he came on for Buckley playing too central, he had more impact when Robinson went off and he was moved wide.

We can't play 5 at the back with two upfront when we have so many wingers, it's obvious to a blind man we need 4 at the back and the way Beevers has been playing I think he has to be the one to drop out. The problem will only get worse when Ameobi is fit.

Did not understand why Alf is not starting, he had a partnership with Madine last year so surely they have some understanding of each others movement.

The one good thing was that changes where made, unfortunately the tactics and formation still don't look right to me.

57 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Wed Sep 13 2017, 08:32

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Wanderers for 45 wrote:
I think Parky has done well to get us in to the Championship.Brentford will be a massive game.
The Natasha Whittams of this world need to spend more intimate time with her Rampant Rabitt,and leave Parky alone.

Parky did well to get us into the Championship, but it doesn't mean he should get a free pass after this disastrous start.

He signed these players. He signed Noone last week and couldn't stop praising him. One game later and he's dropped.

Morais, on the bench or out of position. Ameobi injured as he has been a lot of his career.

Karacan(t) bought because he scored one important goal, despite having no form of any kind in recent years.

The back four/five an utter shambles.

None of these things are down to money, they are down to judgement. And Parky doesn't seem to have much.

58 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Wed Sep 13 2017, 08:34

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I can't fault the effort last night but we are crying out for a bit of midfield creativity to unlock a defence. Madine is doing well but has no support and Armstrong was anonymous last night.

Is it time to try a 442? He's tried everything else and it's not worked. Saying that though you can't polish a turd, the squad as a whole is league 1 standard.

59 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Wed Sep 13 2017, 10:19

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MATCH VERDICT: Bolton Wanderers 0 Sheffield United 1

IT will come as little solace to Phil Parkinson that arguably his side’s best home performance of the season was just as fruitless as those which had gone before it in the Championship.
On first glance it seemed shoddy defending was to blame for Sheffield United’s only goal of the game – although closer examination suggests a little bad fortune also played its part in the ball landing at the feet of the Blades’ on-loan defender Cameron Carter-Vickers.
Regardless of detail, it continued a worrying trend of Parkinson’s side allowing their opponents a head start.

The harsh realities of the Championship are starting to materialise for the Whites, whose every mistake at present seems to be punished to the full.
And while there were aspects of the performance which once again hinted that the team can compete at this higher level, the evidence suggests they will not progress until Parkinson can find some way of plugging the defensive lapses.
Whereas defeats against Leeds, Derby or Middlebsrough could be passed off as opponents ‘not in our league’, the Blades were viewed as beatable opponents despite an encouraging start to the campaign.
If Parkinson had grouped their former League One rivals in the same category as the Burtons, Birminghams and Barrnsleys, he may well be forced into a rethink after the South Yorkshiremen stretched their advantage over his own side to 13 points, moving into third place in the Championship table.
Parkinson made five changes to the side beaten by Middlesbrough. Three were enforced – Derik Osede and Stephen Darby dropping out through injury and Filipe Morais fit enough only for a place on the bench after a pre-match fitness test on his knee.

The harsh realities of the Championship are starting to materialise for the Whites, whose every mistake at present seems to be punished to the full.
And while there were aspects of the performance which once again hinted that the team can compete at this higher level, the evidence suggests they will not progress until Parkinson can find some way of plugging the defensive lapses.
Whereas defeats against Leeds, Derby or Middlebsrough could be passed off as opponents ‘not in our league’, the Blades were viewed as beatable opponents despite an encouraging start to the campaign.
If Parkinson had grouped their former League One rivals in the same category as the Burtons, Birminghams and Barrnsleys, he may well be forced into a rethink after the South Yorkshiremen stretched their advantage over his own side to 13 points, moving into third place in the Championship table.
Parkinson made five changes to the side beaten by Middlesbrough. Three were enforced – Derik Osede and Stephen Darby dropping out through injury and Filipe Morais fit enough only for a place on the bench after a pre-match fitness test on his knee.

Swirling wind and rain played their part in a frenetic, bitty half where neither side seemed able to settle. But after spending so long chasing Middlesbrough for long spells of controlled possession it was a nice change of pace.
Yes, the midfield was frustratingly inefficient but the wing-backs were both getting forward well and Wanderers were creating openings. Gary Madine tested Jamal Blackman with a dipping shot from distance and Jem Karacan headed Josh Cullen’s cross just wide.
The Blades had previously kept just one clean sheet in 38 attempts in Bolton territory, and that when The Beatles’ Abbey Road was number one in the album charts. They have since had 10 trips across the Pennines without a win.
Just as something appeared to be going right for Parkinson, Will Buckley was forced off injured and Morais – far from 100 per cent - called upon much earlier from the bench than the manager would have wanted.
Sure enough, just three minutes later Paul Coutts’ corner from the left skipped off the turf and landed via a blocked clearance at the feet of Carter-Vickers, who turned it gleefully into the roof of the net.
Once again Wanderers were behind at home. And it might have been worse before half time as another set-piece fell kindly for Carter-Vickers but this time his shot was saved well by Ben Alnwick.


Conditions worsened, as did the mood on the pitch as Stuart Attwell frustratingly inconsistent use of the yellow card failed to keep a lid on the challenges flying in from either side.
Daniel Lafferty had a far-post header hooked off the line by Wheater as the Whites threatened to lose control altogether – and the mood around the Macron began to get more anxious with each passing minute.
Madine had looked an isolated target at times up front, with Adam Armstrong struggling to get into the game and close to his strike partner, and in the 67th minute, Parkinson called for Adam Le Fondre and change things from the bench.
The supply line down the wings, which had been the bright spot of the first half, was drying up faster than the belief around the ground that Wanderers could get back on to level terms.

A last throw of the dice was made from the bench as Aaron Wilbraham was sent on for Robinson to add another aerial target up front.
Wanderers went ultra-direct and when Madine was shoved in the back by Jack O’Connell, a golden chance was presented to free-klick specialist Morais. Unfortunately, the winger was only able to lift his effort on to the roof of the net.
Desperation grew and ref Attwell waved away a handball appeal after another Morais free-kick was blasted into a crowd of bodies by Madine – who also had a header cleared off the post by Baldock.
Had the urgency to score been greater earlier in the half, Parkinson’s side may have got back into the contest but in the end it was too little, too late.

Sub David Brooks had a chance to rub salt into the wounds late on, breaking clean through the middle but his shot bounced off the bar.

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60 Re: Bolton 0-1 Sheffield Utd on Wed Sep 13 2017, 10:46

wessy

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Much more commitment tonight, probably worth a draw, however if we go behind then we lose, we have no bite up front and no one to unlock a defence, i thought both  full backs improved the team Little was far better than Darby, Beevers seems to have lost confidence. 

Disagree with others thought the captaincy improved Karacen's performance he covered a lot of ground last night, hard to see from the armchair possibly?  We lack drive in midfield and i don't think Spearing would be the answer. It looks grim, 4 defeats at home three without a hint of a goal.

Armstrong continues to disappoints, Cullen looks busy but goes sideways or back only to frustrate the fans. Buckley i would like to see more of but he seems to be another miss so far.

All in all yes it's shite but this squad are tasked with keeping us in touch with 4th bottom till January, KA you are tasked with lifting the embargo and seeking better funding, Long three months await.

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