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Have you changed your position on Brexit?

5% 5% [ 1 ]
38% 38% [ 8 ]
57% 57% [ 12 ]
Total Votes : 21

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91 Re: Quick poll on Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:02 pm

Angry Dad

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Cajunboy wrote:
As Bread say's the poor fellow must have torn it all out ..dunno..

92 Re: Quick poll on Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:56 am

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Oops! Turns out we're actually half a TRILLION quid worse off than we thought.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/10/15/britains-missing-billions-revised-figures-reveal-uk-490bn-poorer/

As it says in the article, that's a whopping 25% of the nation's GDP. Poof...! Gone......not coming back.

And a large part of it is down to a massive reversal in Foreign Direct Investment, from a £120 billion surplus to a £25 billion deficit, caused by uncertainty over Brexit.

We're going to need to sort some seriously good trade tariffs with the rest of the world (including the people at the EU who we've just pissed off massively) to limit the damage caused by this.

Or am I just being a typical negative Remoaner again?

If I put my Union Flag boxers on and sing a couple of verses of Jerusalem, will it all go away?

93 Re: Quick poll on Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:03 am

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Next you'll be blaming your impotence on Brexit.

94 Re: Quick poll on Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:10 am

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Well, my doctor did say that "long-term, unrelenting stress" could well be playing its part, so....yeah.

95 Re: Quick poll on Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:24 am

gloswhite

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Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Wander, you really should calm down. At this rate you won't be around to see all the benefits that we, as a country, will receive.  Very Happy

Anyway, as one who predicted our first 2-1 win of the season, you've got to admit that my views have to carry weight, (I'm thinking of calling myself  'Mystic Bob').  :bow:

96 Re: Quick poll on Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:12 pm

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
gloswhite wrote:Wander, you really should calm down. At this rate you won't be around to see all the benefits that we, as a country, will receive.  Very Happy

Anyway, as one who predicted our first 2-1 win of the season, you've got to admit that my views have to carry weight, (I'm thinking of calling myself  'Mystic Bob').  :bow:
OK Mystic Bob. Can't wait to see how it pans out. 
But I still can't see any reason why the British people are being denied our democratic rights.

97 Re: Quick poll on Mon Oct 16, 2017 1:19 pm

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The sun looks very odd this morning.

They're blaming Ophelia,but I don't buy it. I'll be keeping a sharp eye on the moon too.

98 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:54 am

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Lemme guess....?

This is just more of that Project Fear bullshit and everything's actually going swimmingly?

http://www.businessinsider.de/brexit-uk-inflation-in-september-2017?r=UK&IR=T

99 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:01 am

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
You're right, inflation never increased before Brexit did it.

100 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:08 am

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
So that automatically means that Brexit hasn't had a negative impact on it?

Ok then...

101 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:21 am

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Bread2.0 wrote:So that automatically means that Brexit hasn't had a negative impact on it?

Ok then...

Prices have always gone up and down.

I'm not sure some bloke in Africa producing coffee beans is that arsed about Brexit.

102 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:53 am

gloswhite

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Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
The threat of a bad coffee harvest will do more damage to our economy than Brexit, especially as we now have an economy working 80/20 on service/manufacturing. Anyone know how many Baristas we have ?

103 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:58 am

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Thanks, Nat, for (yet again) demonstrating that you don't really understand how this all works.

Coffee is classed as a "soft commodity" so the guy half way up a mountain somewhere in Africa doesn't get a say in how much we pay for it in Tesco.

So his opinion on Brexit's a bit moot.

The people who do have a say, however, are the ones trading in coffee futures on the floor of the LSE.

They can drive prices up and down depending on supply and demand.

And that's where Brexit comes in.

As part of the EU, we benefit from bulk buying power when trading with the coffee producers. This means that we can agree to purchase coffee in advance at a hugely discounted rate which isn't subject to or impacted by fluctuations in the price of coffee beans, driven by the commodities traders mentioned previously.

Once we do step outside of this protection, we will have to negotiate our own trade tariffs with the governments of the countries where coffee beans are grown.

And if they're being held over a barrel on price by the might of the EU, who do you think they'll try and recover their lost margin from?

Go on......have a guess?

104 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:03 pm

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Bread2.0 wrote:Coffee is classed as a "soft commodity" so the guy half way up a mountain somewhere in Africa doesn't get a say in how much we pay for it in Tesco.

Of course he does. If he decides to double his price Tesco are hardly going to absorb the cost and not pass it onto the customer.

Don't try and lecture me on business you gobshite, don't forget I was Preston Business Woman of the Year. Twice.

105 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:07 pm

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
You're not getting this, are you?

The is no direct link between the guy up the mountain and Tesco.

That's not how it works.....

Tesco don't buy individual batches of beans from random farmers.

Stop making yourself look daft, pet.

Go and have a Twirl or something. (While you can still afford it.)

106 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:26 pm

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Bread2.0 wrote:You're not getting this, are you?

The is no direct link between the guy up the mountain and Tesco.

That's not how it works.....

Tesco don't buy individual batches of beans from random farmers.

Stop making yourself look daft, pet.

Go and have a Twirl or something. (While you can still afford it.)

Of course I get it.

I've no idea how much a coffee bean costs, but let's say that yesterday it was 10p a bean.

But today the coffee bean producer in Africa decides to double the price to 20p per bean. How on earth can that not have an impact on the final sale price?

It's like saying a major hike in the cost of chocolate beans won't affect the price of a Twirl.

107 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:30 pm

Bread2.0

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Andy Walker
Andy Walker
As I said, you're not very good at this, are you?

And it turns out you can't read very well either.

Go back and read the bit I posted about commodity traders, the EU's buying power and how locking in prices in advance protects us from market fluctuations.

And if you still don't get it, ask someone else who's a bit cleverer (Scott or Boggers?) to explain it to you.

108 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:40 pm

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
You've spent too long on Wikipedia.

So the cost price has no bearing on the final sale price? What utter garbage. Earlier this year the cost of my iceberg lettuce went through the roof. Where was your EU to protect the cost of my lunchtime sandwich?

Twats!

109 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:40 pm

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We have a service economy that is entirely dependent on a population with a high disposable income so it only makes sense that as prices continue to rise and wages stagnate, businesses will fail and baristas will be forced to seek seasonal work picking cabbages in Lincolnshire.

110 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:15 pm

scottjames30

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Nat, don’t take him on, the poor sod has a mental illness.
We really shouldn’t laugh at him.

111 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:05 pm

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the referendum advisory?
If it wasn't, a few million have voted for something they hadn't got a clue about given the lies and inuendo generated by the three mentioned earlier.
As a plus pensions for those drawing will be up nicely next year, no doubt upsetting those years away.
Saying I've got a few years to go yet another grand a year will come in handy and I can use my proper pension pot for enjoying myself!

112 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:09 pm

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Soul Kitchen wrote:Saying I've got a few years to go yet another grand a year will come in handy and I can use my proper pension pot for enjoying myself!

Maybe you could spend it on an education.

113 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 6:50 pm

Cajunboy

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
wanderlust wrote:We have a service economy that is entirely dependent on a population with a high disposable income so it only makes sense that as prices continue to rise and wages stagnate, businesses will fail and baristas will be forced to seek seasonal work picking cabbages in Lincolnshire.
Good.

114 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:39 pm

okocha

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I wonder if the numbers voting leave based on lies, exaggerations, misconceptions, ignorance, spin, badly-explained details, etc were roughly equal to the numbers voting remain based on exactly the same criteria.

None of us still really knows how things will turn out; there are so many imponderables. I would say that we are all guessing or hoping. There are no definites. It all depends.......

I think Cowardly Cameron should come back and face the music like a man! The kingdom's plight lies at his door due to a ludicrously simplified question on the ballot paper which was bound to divide the nation.
Those with firm convictions about what the future holds amaze and astound me.

115 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:04 pm

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Natasha Whittam wrote:
Soul Kitchen wrote:Saying I've got a few years to go yet another grand a year will come in handy and I can use my proper pension pot for enjoying myself!

Maybe you could spend it on an education.
As opposed to you having a nip and tuck?

116 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:07 pm

Soul Kitchen

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Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
okocha wrote:I wonder if the numbers voting leave based on lies, exaggerations, misconceptions, ignorance, spin, badly-explained details, etc were roughly equal to the numbers voting remain based on exactly the same criteria.

None of us still really knows how things will turn out; there are so many imponderables. I would say that we are all guessing or hoping. There are no definites. It all depends.......

I think Cowardly Cameron should come back and face the music like a man! The kingdom's plight lies at his door due to a ludicrously simplified question on the ballot paper which was bound to divide the nation.
Those with firm convictions about what the future holds amaze and astound me.
You vote to remain when there are no substantial facts. Who  would vote to change something when you don't know what changes there are and how acheivable they may be?

117 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:04 pm

Leeds_Trotter

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I voted remain, I accept the results and so should everybody else. I still see people moaning about the outcome and it winds me up. They should just accept it too. As for the negotiations I wish we would just hurry up get things sorted an leave. It is dragging on far too long now.

118 Re: Quick poll on Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:07 pm

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Leeds_Trotter wrote:I voted remain, I accept the results and so should everybody else. I still see people moaning about the outcome and it winds me up.

Don't worry, Bread & Wanderlust wind everyone up. Just ask their wives.

119 Re: Quick poll on Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:43 am

Norpig

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John McGinlay
John McGinlay
Soul Kitchen wrote:
okocha wrote:I wonder if the numbers voting leave based on lies, exaggerations, misconceptions, ignorance, spin, badly-explained details, etc were roughly equal to the numbers voting remain based on exactly the same criteria.

None of us still really knows how things will turn out; there are so many imponderables. I would say that we are all guessing or hoping. There are no definites. It all depends.......

I think Cowardly Cameron should come back and face the music like a man! The kingdom's plight lies at his door due to a ludicrously simplified question on the ballot paper which was bound to divide the nation.
Those with firm convictions about what the future holds amaze and astound me.
You vote to remain when there are no substantial facts. Who  would vote to change something when you don't know what changes there are and how acheivable they may be?
Around 17 million did just that

120 Re: Quick poll on Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:35 am

Guest


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At the end of the day its done.  Like others have said, people had a chance and 60 odd percent just couldnt be arsed.  And why? Because everyone thought it would be remain by a mile.  It wasn't. Obviously. And rather than bickering between ourselves, the blame lays on the lazy arseholes who had a chance to vote and didnt.  The same with every election. 

Every election whether local or otherwise you do have a chance to change the current pecking order. But in most cases it stays the same. 

Why

because people think everyone is the same and its all still gonna be shit either way.

The last general election, whether you agree or not, there was a real possibility for change. But people where to caught up in what they was wearing or basing their views on whatever the daily rags where telling them. 

Nobody has a mind of their own. And before anyone starts, i would of been worse off based on thre labour manifesto, but i understand the wider scheme of things.  

When there is no NHS, when there is a divide the size of the grand canyon between the haves and the have nots, when all the hardworking immigrants are sent home and the building game is flat on its arse messing the economy up even more, when there are riots and looting and even less police and other emergenxy services to deal with it, when you have to pawn your tv to pay to have an abcess removed, remember why!

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