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1 Gary Megson on Mon Nov 20 2017, 11:54

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New interim boss at West Brom.

Tony Pulis has been sacked as West Brom head coach with the club a point above the Premier League relegation zone and without a win in 10 top-flight games.
The Baggies were beaten 4-0 at home by Chelsea on Saturday.
Albion won their first three games of the season, but have drawn four and lost seven since beating Accrington in the Carabao Cup on 22 August.
Former West Brom manager Gary Megson, who had been Pulis' assistant, is taking over "until further notice".

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Good luck to him I say - although I'm sure that many Bolton fans won't share that wish!

2 Re: Gary Megson on Mon Nov 20 2017, 12:14

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Sluffy wrote:Good luck to him I say - although I'm sure that many Bolton fans won't share that wish!
No because he's a tosser. Very Happy

3 Re: Gary Megson on Mon Nov 20 2017, 12:41

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Sluffy wrote:New interim boss at West Brom.

Tony Pulis has been sacked as West Brom head coach with the club a point above the Premier League relegation zone and without a win in 10 top-flight games.
The Baggies were beaten 4-0 at home by Chelsea on Saturday.
Albion won their first three games of the season, but have drawn four and lost seven since beating Accrington in the Carabao Cup on 22 August.
Former West Brom manager Gary Megson, who had been Pulis' assistant, is taking over "until further notice".

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Good luck to him I say - although I'm sure that many Bolton fans won't share that wish!

I was watching Meggo pacing the touchline on MOTD during the Chelsea game and he looked a forlorn figure. Interim manager is about right! I can't see him keeping the job long! Since Pulis took him on as his No 2 the Baggies have suffered a terrible run of form. Meggo can have that effect on players. He should change his name to Jonas.

4 Re: Gary Megson on Mon Nov 20 2017, 13:01

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I wonder if he had a few whispered conversations with the chairman. Could be a meeting of minds next term if we have to face WB in the Championship.

5 Re: Gary Megson on Mon Nov 20 2017, 13:18

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Let's hope so! It means we have survived and Meggo has brought the Baggies down!

6 Re: Gary Megson on Tue Nov 21 2017, 10:18

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I'm hoping he keeps Pulis's team up and is then given £40 million to build a new team as he was at Bolton.
Let him ruin another club

7 Re: Gary Megson on Tue Nov 21 2017, 14:03

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Why did they keep him as well ?  he must have had some input into the baggies wayward form.

8 Re: Gary Megson on Tue Nov 21 2017, 16:07

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West Brom fans still love him from his time there before so the board probably thought it wouldn't be an issue leaving him in charge. I personally wouldn't let him run my bath nevermind a football team.

9 Re: Gary Megson on Fri Nov 24 2017, 16:27

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Meggo cheerful as always, looking forward to his trip to Wembley against Tottenham

""Getting to Wembley is being an international player or reaching a cup final. I played in three semi-finals and lost the lot. This is a league game that happens to be at Wembley. It isn't the same."

10 Re: Gary Megson on Sat Nov 25 2017, 20:05

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Just watched his post match interview and I still can't stand the sight or sound of the bastard. I'm clearly not softening up in my old age.

11 Re: Gary Megson on Sat Nov 25 2017, 20:38

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Heard a half time report from Wembley and I couldn't help laughing. The commentator said " Spurs are really going to have a struggle to get level in the second half. You're all familiar with teams playing with a conventional back 4 but since Albion pinched an early lead they've been playing with a back 10" Laughing
Yes, I remember it well.

12 Re: Gary Megson on Sat Nov 25 2017, 22:35

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Lets not forget that Meggo spent a lot more money in his 2 years as Bolton manager than big spenders Wolves have the last two years.
Its a crying shame that £40 million was given to Meggo to play in the transfer market with rather than a quality manager.

13 Re: Gary Megson on Sun Nov 26 2017, 03:51

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Just watching his post match interview, I think even if I wasn't a Bolton fan I'd have an intense desire to see him fail miserably at everything. I really don't understand how anybody ever could be endeared by him as a person. He's sort of like the series dick on The Apprentice; massive egomaniac, no character, just a moaning dullard that takes himself way too seriously.

14 Re: Gary Megson on Sun Nov 26 2017, 15:23

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Growler wrote:Lets not forget that Meggo spent a lot more money in his 2 years as Bolton manager than big spenders Wolves have the last two years.
Its a crying shame that £40 million was given to Meggo to play in the transfer market with rather than a quality manager.
Mixed bag his signings. I thought Gary Cahill, Gretar Steinsson, Tamir Cohen (for 650K) Chung Yong Lee, Sam Ricketts, Fabrice Muamba, and Ivan Klasnic were all good business. Elmander was a quality winger but cost way too much and mysteriously was hyped as a striker although I still can't work out where they got that from. And there were a few disappointments like Danny Shittu, Rasiak, Matty Taylor, Puygrenier, Smolarek and Makukula. There were a handful that I thought he was unlucky with i.e. good players who picked up injuries especially Sean Davies and Mavies and some that worked out as "average" e.g. Zat Knight and Paul Robinson.
He gambled on players to get us back to the top - which he had to do with only £40 million - and got mixed results, but it was his playing style more than his signings that made him unpopular. It was effing dire.
But to organise a losing team like the Baggies so that they can get a draw against the mighty Spuds attack is decent. You know what you're getting with Megson - grab a goal and sit back in numbers - very similar to Parky but better at organising the defence.

15 Re: Gary Megson on Tue Nov 28 2017, 16:28

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Yes they could of give it BSA when we were 3rd in the Premier New Year’s Day 2007,he only wanted £20 million. We can only sit scratching our balls (and ladies their bits NW,)what may have happened if the money BSA wanted to get us to the Champions Leauge had been given. BSA was refused funds yet Smegson was given a fortune.

16 Re: Gary Megson on Tue Nov 28 2017, 17:06

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Wanderers for 45 wrote:Yes they could of give it BSA when we were 3rd in the Premier New Year’s Day 2007,he only wanted £20 million. We can only sit scratching our balls (and ladies their bits NW,)what may have happened if the money BSA wanted to get us to the Champions Leauge had been given. BSA was refused funds yet Smegson was given a fortune.

Could be something to do with the new Sky money kicking in from the start of the season after Allardyce 'retired' to spend time with his family - and with the first available chance to spend it being when Megson was in charge (following Lee's disastrous period in charge).

17 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 12:17

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I see Meggo's final match as the West Brom manager saw him squander a 2-0 lead at home to draw 2-2.The same as his last match as Bolton manager when he felt that sending on Gavin McCann would be the best way to see out the lead against Hull's about to be relegated team.

18 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 12:22

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I remember his final game for us, i was screaming abuse at him from my seat and was extremely happy he was sacked the next day.

19 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 12:26

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Nice to see Megson end that little stint on a downer last night.

As for the appointment of Pardew, didn't he lose his last two jobs for being in more or less the same position West Brom are in now?

Give it a year, he'll keep them up, maybe even get them in the top half, then they'll have a bad start the season after and bring a Pulis type in to keep them up.

20 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 12:32

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One of my "favourite" Meggo memories was after spending £40 million on players he set a team up to draw 0-0 at  home to Hibernian in a pre season friendly/testimonial.

One of my first matches at Burnden Park was a 5-5 draw in a testimonial and then along came Meggo to thrill us.

21 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 13:07

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Growler wrote:One of my "favourite" Meggo memories was after spending £40 million on players he set a team up to draw 0-0 at  home to Hibernian in a pre season friendly/testimonial.

One of my first matches at Burnden Park was a 5-5 draw in a testimonial and then along came Meggo to thrill us.

Was it Peter Thompson's testimonial against the Liverpool team (plus Duncan MacKenzie) that had just won the European Cup and paraded it on the night?

Super sub David Fairclough hat-trick on the night I seem to remember too.

If so I was there too that evening - coming to the grown straight from work, then off to a club to round a fantastic night off!

Happy days from long ago.

22 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 13:11

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He now says he's ready to get back into managing again and will be applying for jobs  affraid

I feel sorry for any club who ends up getting this plank as their next manager.

23 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 13:28

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Norpig wrote:He now says he's ready to get back into managing again and will be applying for jobs  affraid

I feel sorry for any club who ends up getting this plank as their next manager.

I know I'm in the minority but Megson is a decent manager - far better than the likes of Coyle, Lee and Freedman imo.

Yes he was highly negative, yes he got the majority of fans on his back and yes he had to go when it became poisonous - but he kept us up (when I doubted that would be possible) after taken over from Lee.

He rebuilt the side whilst doing so - yes he paid top dollar and not all his signings worked - but they did the job in keeping us up - and left more than a decent enough squad to have kept us there still until that clown Coyle got us relegated with a team that really was too good to ever have got relegated.

Good luck to him I say.

24 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 13:49

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I think he will struggle to secure a decent job in the Championship. Fortunately, the momentum seems to be with managers who like their teams to play football, not strangle the life out of the game.

He got himself in the shop window for a couple of weeks though and I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up being utilised the same way Allardyce was by Sunderland and Palace. Struggling lower league teams will give him short-term contracts to pack their defences in the hope of securing survival, then boot him out for someone who actually enjoys the game.

25 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 14:10

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Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:He now says he's ready to get back into managing again and will be applying for jobs  affraid

I feel sorry for any club who ends up getting this plank as their next manager.

I know I'm in the minority but Megson is a decent manager - far better than the likes of Coyle, Lee and Freedman imo.

Yes he was highly negative, yes he got the majority of fans on his back and yes he had to go when it became poisonous - but he kept us up (when I doubted that would be possible) after taken over from Lee.  

He rebuilt the side whilst doing so - yes he paid top dollar and not all his signings worked - but they did the job in keeping us up - and left more than a decent enough squad to have kept us there still until that clown Coyle got us relegated with a team that really was too good to ever have got relegated.

Good luck to him I say.

Strongly disagree there. I thought Meggo left us with a second rate central midfield, and poor strike force.

The central midfield under Megson was the main weakness when it should be the strength of the team.Cohen and Mark Davies were Championship players, McCann was over the hill and Muamba could tackle and harry competently but do bugger all else such as pass a football to a Bolton player

Compared to Allardyce's central midfield talent of Okocha, Nolan, Speed and Campo none of the players Megson left us in that area would have got a game.

It was only the temporary signing of Wilshire soon after Coyle arrived and the brilliant signing of Holden  that made the midfield strong enough for the Premier League.I am of the opinion that we would have been relegated that season if Megson hadnt been sacked.We were 19th going into the New Year when Megson was sacked.

And yes it was the Peter Thompson testimonial but you remember it better than i do!

26 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 14:55

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Growler wrote:
Sluffy wrote:
Norpig wrote:He now says he's ready to get back into managing again and will be applying for jobs  affraid

I feel sorry for any club who ends up getting this plank as their next manager.

I know I'm in the minority but Megson is a decent manager - far better than the likes of Coyle, Lee and Freedman imo.

Yes he was highly negative, yes he got the majority of fans on his back and yes he had to go when it became poisonous - but he kept us up (when I doubted that would be possible) after taken over from Lee.  

He rebuilt the side whilst doing so - yes he paid top dollar and not all his signings worked - but they did the job in keeping us up - and left more than a decent enough squad to have kept us there still until that clown Coyle got us relegated with a team that really was too good to ever have got relegated.

Good luck to him I say.

Strongly disagree there. I thought Meggo left us with a second rate central midfield, and poor strike force.

The central midfield under Megson was the main weakness when it should be the strength of the team.Cohen and Mark Davies were Championship players, McCann was over the hill and Muamba could tackle and harry competently but do bugger all else such as pass a football to a Bolton player

Compared to Allardyce's central midfield talent of Okocha, Nolan, Speed and Campo none of the players Megson left us in that area would have got a game.

It was only the temporary signing of Wilshire soon after Coyle arrived and the brilliant signing of Holden  that made the midfield strong enough for the Premier League.I am of the opinion that we would have been relegated that season if Megson hadnt been sacked.We were 19th going into the New Year when Megson was sacked.

And yes it was the Peter Thompson testimonial but you remember it better than i do!

Of course every midfield has put out since the teams of Allardyce with Okocha, Nolan, Speed and Campo have paled into insignificance in comparison - so hardly fair to blame Megson for that.

Maybe if he only needed to strengthen the midfield from the team Allardyce/Lee left behind he might have got closer to the quality we had lost but he also had to sort out the defence with Robinson, Knight, Cahill and Rickets being signed - as well as Lee - who was a quality midfielder for us and Matt Taylor.

As for the strike force - we still had Davies, so the only change was a down grade on Anelka - which obviously non of our subsequent managers were ever given the money to replace such a world class player with like for like.

Megson did however bring in Klasnic in on loan to the club.

I would argue that players Megson signed such as Cahill, Lee, and Klasnic are probably the best quality signings we have made (plus Holden), since Allardyce left (not including loan players).

As for Megson's points total when he was sacked (at the halfway point of the season), Coyle only bettered it in the second half of the season by one point only - until the last meaningless game of the season which we won.

Megson was so hated and Coyle was so lauded in that same season - yet their point totals were near enough identical to each other - and don't forget Coyle brought in Holden for his half of that season too!

I remember pointing out the points won by the respective managers at the time and questioned why nearly everyone thought Coyle was a genius and Megson a fool for achieving virtually the same number of points in the same number of games?

Clearly time as shown Coyle was rated too highly by the fans at the time and I would have hoped the same fans may have cut Megson some slack by now - but clearly the dislike of him is still there by many.

27 Re: Gary Megson on Wed Nov 29 2017, 18:10

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I didn't like him but only in the football sense. He did bring Klasnic in but then never played him as I recall. Most of the time a sub.  But he did keep us in the Prem.  You can't take that away.  He would be shite with the crew we have now though. Probably worse than Parky or close to it.

28 Re: Gary Megson on Thu Nov 30 2017, 09:47

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The amount of money spent and the poor quality side produced with it was my issue with Megson, Coyle spent roughly half the amount Megson did so expectations from me weren't so high.

In the relegation season, Coyle was told to sell the best player (Cahill) in the January transfer window which also reduced expectations somewhat.Our main rivals to avoid relegation, QPR spent around £20 million  in the same window we sold our best player.

29 Re: Gary Megson on Thu Nov 30 2017, 12:46

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Growler wrote:The amount of money spent and the poor quality side produced with it was my issue with Megson, Coyle spent roughly half the amount Megson did so expectations from me weren't so high.

In the relegation season, Coyle was told to sell the best player (Cahill) in the January transfer window which also reduced expectations somewhat.Our main rivals to avoid relegation, QPR spent around £20 million  in the same window we sold our best player.

I think everybody agrees that Megson spent a great deal and what he bought was generally average but what alternative did he have?

The side desperately needed strengthening, he could only do it in January, and everybody knows players prices are at a premium in January.

He bought what he did when the market was at its highest - through no fault of his.

That's exactly what Allardyce, Pardew, Pulis, Redknapp and all the other managers appointed to keep clubs up just before the January window have done since and still do now.

Our problem as Bolton fans were that Allardyce had spoiled us by his innovative way of bringing in world class players on the cheap and we simply couldn't afford to replace Okocha, Djorkaeff, Hierro, Campo, etc like for like in one go, particularly in a January transfer window.

We were bound to get poorer players in comparison - and at vastly higher transfer fees.

Hardly Megson's fault or failing.


When interviewing people for a job, one of the things you are taught is never to base someone's interview on the previous person you have interviewed.

If you've just seen a candidate who was shit, then the next person will appear to you to be brilliant in comparison and there is a danger that you will over rate them because of this rather than see them for their own strengths and weaknesses. The same is true if you interview a brilliant candidate first, you may very well judge the next candidate in comparison a great deal poorer than they actually are.

Yes Allardyce was/is a fantastic manager and Megson looks shit in comparison - but I don't believe he is actually half as bad as many Bolton fans view him.

He's not as good as Allardyce certainly - but few are.





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