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1 Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 10:33

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Moving swiftly along...only 4 days to go before we are away at Derby County - the same day that Birmingham are playing Burton FFS. Barnsley are hosting Sheff U, Sunderland away at Leeds whilst Reading host PNE.
The big question for me is whether or not Parky will have the nads to reintroduce a bit of pace into the team, especially in terms of wingbacks e.g. Little and Robinson for Flanagan and Taylor and the forwards e.g. Obasi and Hall for Wilbraham and Buckley. Absolutely can't see it and I'm not sure it's the right game to do it, but if we set our stall out in the same way we did against Leeds and Brum, we'll get battered. Might be a good time to bring Wheats back into a back 3 and push Little and Robinson on so at least we can get further up the pitch and create something.
Derby are still right up there despite a poor run of form that ended at the weekend when they beat PNE - a win they'll be eager to build on.
Difficult to predict a score, but unless there are some radical changes to selection, system and/or attitude I reckon we'll lose by a couple. I so hope we don't.

2 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 11:00

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Nat Lofthouse
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No points from this game.

Derby 2-0 Bolton

Hope I’m wrong though!

3 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 11:56

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
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i would change the full backs for Little and Robinson but can't see him going to a back 3 again unless we have big issues in midfield with injuries.

4 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 14:47

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
1-2 Vela to step up

5 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 16:00

Natasha Whittam

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Nat Lofthouse
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Dicked. 3-0.

Parky out.

6 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 16:09

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Tony Kelly
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Got to be a three point loss. Can't see us scoring again any time soon unfortunately.

7 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 16:16

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Frank Worthington
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After last nights dismal performance he has to make substantial changes- and unless he does I can't see us scoring but can see Derby scoring 3 or 4. So a hammering is on the cards.
I still can't believe how poor we were last night!!

8 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Wed Apr 04 2018, 16:50

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Tony Kelly
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Think the best we can hope for in the next two matches is Barnsley lose them both, so they can't go above us when we play them a week on Saturday.

9 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Thu Apr 05 2018, 13:30

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Think the best we can hope for in the next two matches is Barnsley lose them both, so they can't go above us when we play them a week on Saturday.

You are so fucking negative (sic erat scriptum)

10 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Fri Apr 06 2018, 17:36

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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Ref watch: Darren England to take control of Derby County trip

Darren England will take charge of Wanderers' Sky Bet Championship trip to Derby County on Saturday.

The South Yorkshire-based official has presided over four Whites fixtures in the past – including three in 2017/18, the last being December’s 3-2 defeat to Nottingham Forest.

England has brandished 125 yellow cards and two red cards in 33 matches so far this season.

John Flynn and Mark Jones will run the line, while Darren Drysdale is the fourth official.

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11 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Fri Apr 06 2018, 17:37

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Nat Lofthouse
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Preview: Five talking points ahead of Derby County v Bolton Wanderers

Following their narrow defeat to Birmingham City on Tuesday, Bolton Wanderers will be looking to bounce back when they travel to Pride Park to face Derby County on Saturday.

With the Whites looking to climb the table and pull themselves away from the chasing pack, bwfc.co.uk picks out five talking points ahead of the visit to the East Midlands.

1. Away Fortunes

Despite the narrow defeat to Leeds on Good Friday, Wanderers’ away record has improved in recent weeks.

The Whites have picked up points in three of their last four away games, drawing against Norwich, Reading and Sheffield Wednesday.

Another result this Saturday would go a long way however and give the outstanding travelling fans more to cheer about.

2. Derby’s Form

Despite sitting in the play-off places, Derby’s 1-0 win at Preston North End on Monday was their first since early February.

The Rams had recorded three losses and five draws in their previous eight matches before their recent victory.

The match should certainly be an entertaining one too - there have been 28 goals in Derby’s last 10 games, with Gary Rowett’s side scoring 13 and conceding 15.

3. Top Ten Successes

Since the beginning of December, Wanderers have enjoyed an excellent spell against the teams in the current top ten of the Sky Bet Championship.

The Whites have picked up four wins and a draw in their last seven matches against the league’s best, keeping a clean sheet in each of their wins against Cardiff (2-0), Sheffield United (1-0), Bristol City (1-0) and Aston Villa (1-0), whilst also drawing with in-form Fulham (1-1).

And with the Rams currently sat in fifth place, Phil Parkinson’s men have the chance to extend an already impressive record.

4. Time For Revenge

Wanderers’ last visit to Pride Park was almost two years to the day, a 4-1 defeat which unfortunately sealed the Whites’ relegation to League One.

Zach Clough scored a penalty in a match that saw Johnny Russell, Tom Ince and Jacob Butterfield strike for then-promotion-chasing Derby.

With the team in a better position this time around, Saturday’s match would be the perfect opportunity to avenge that day and take a big step closer towards the finishing line this term.

5. The Chance To Become A Hero

Wanderers travel to Derby County without the injured Darren Pratley and Jan Kirchhoff, but Karl Henry is available despite limping off against Birmingham City.

With his side needing to get the job done without two of their more influential names, manager Phil Parkinson has called on his players to stand up and “become a hero”.

He believes that any match-winning moments in this final run in will compare to Jem Karacan’s famous goal against Peterborough United that helped secure automatic promotion last season.

“If this group of players can produce something to keep us above that line they will be remembered for a very long time,” he added.

So to those travelling to Pride Park this weekend or supporting the team from afar, be loud, be proud and back the boys!

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12 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 11:03

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Andy Walker
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Damage limitation, anything that keeps us 5 points clear will do me, so early kick off Sheff Utd please turn up for the early kick off. will take a draw for us

13 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 12:39

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
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Fairly even so far wessy although Barnsley hit the bar early doors

14 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 12:48

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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Not now 1-0 Barnsley

15 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 12:59

wanderlust

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Inevitable wasn’t it.

16 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:01

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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If Barnsley win today I can see Parkinson going mega negative, he just doesn't do positivity, we're going down.

17 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:02

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Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:If Barnsley win today I can see Parkinson going mega negative, he just doesn't do positivity, we're going down.

Bit rich coming from you.

18 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:08

MartinBWFC

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:If Barnsley win today I can see Parkinson going mega negative, he just doesn't do positivity, we're going down.

Bit rich coming from you.
Give me a reason to be positive about Parkinson.

19 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:14

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:If Barnsley win today I can see Parkinson going mega negative, he just doesn't do positivity, we're going down.

Bit rich coming from you.
Give me a reason to be positive about Parkinson.

Ok Martin, you are the boss.

What team selection would you make today and how would you get the ball to the forwards you pick without leaving your defence completely open and vulnerable?

I'm assuming that of course you will be picking a 'positive' side.

20 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:19

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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Burke and Wheater centrally, Little and Robinson wing backs, Henry and Karacan holding, Vela behind Alf, and Noone left Ameobi on the right, there you go better than anything that goon will pick

21 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:31

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Burke and Wheater centrally, Little and Robinson wing backs, Henry and Karacan holding, Vela behind Alf, and Noone left Ameobi on the right, there you go better than anything that goon will pick

So you've picked two right sided centre backs - which one would you play on the left out of their natural position?

You go for Karacan who is not a natural holding player to play in the holding role.

You have gone for Alf as the striker - but haven't answered how you would get the ball to him - from Wheater's hoofs from the back or the crosses from the wings, I assume you aren't expecting Karacan to be supplying the through ball from his holding position?

The thing is anyone can list eleven players but they still have to gel as a team and I can't work out from your selection how Alf is going to get much of the ball if his main supply is going to come from the air and not being played through on the ground - any more than Pakinson's team selections that you are consistently critical of.

Fair play for you replying though.

22 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:35

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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You get a good perspective by watching a couple of minutes highlights, you are an absolute arsewipe at times, try talking to people who go to games to get a proper prospective.

23 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:42

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Burke and Wheater centrally, Little and Robinson wing backs, Henry and Karacan holding, Vela behind Alf, and Noone left Ameobi on the right, there you go better than anything that goon will pick

So you've picked two right sided centre backs - which one would you play on the left out of their natural position?

You go for Karacan who is not a natural holding player to play in the holding role.

You have gone for Alf as the striker - but haven't answered how you would get the ball to him - from Wheater's hoofs from the back or the crosses from the wings, I assume you aren't expecting Karacan to be supplying the through ball from his holding position?

The thing is anyone can list eleven players but they still have to gel as a team and I can't work out from your selection how Alf is going to get much of the ball if his main supply is going to come from the air and not being played through on the ground - any more than Pakinson's team selections that you are consistently critical of.

Fair play for you replying though.

What's you team, Sluffy?

24 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:46

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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Sheffield doing us a favour now winning 2-1

25 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:54

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:You get a good perspective by watching a couple of minutes highlights, you are an absolute arsewipe at times, try talking to people who go to games to get a proper prospective.

Charming.

You obviously must be right if you if you can avoid quite reasonable observations by being thoroughly abusive.

Oh, and just because you go to games doesn't necessarily mean that you can comprehend what you are seeing in front of you - as in a 'non so blind than those that will not see' type of way.

To be fair though you are far from being alone on that - and it's probably been going on since the game was invented and will carry on until Sky pundits or something similar guide people through what they have just watched at the match but never realised it at the time.

I've never claimed to be the best supporter but I can sometimes work out what is happening on the pitch and why, when many just scream for the managers head.

26 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:56

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Burke and Wheater centrally, Little and Robinson wing backs, Henry and Karacan holding, Vela behind Alf, and Noone left Ameobi on the right, there you go better than anything that goon will pick

So you've picked two right sided centre backs - which one would you play on the left out of their natural position?

You go for Karacan who is not a natural holding player to play in the holding role.

You have gone for Alf as the striker - but haven't answered how you would get the ball to him - from Wheater's hoofs from the back or the crosses from the wings, I assume you aren't expecting Karacan to be supplying the through ball from his holding position?

The thing is anyone can list eleven players but they still have to gel as a team and I can't work out from your selection how Alf is going to get much of the ball if his main supply is going to come from the air and not being played through on the ground - any more than Pakinson's team selections that you are consistently critical of.

Fair play for you replying though.

What's you team, Sluffy?

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Are you still going for Wilbraham up top?




27 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 13:58

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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2-2 Barnsley

28 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 14:07

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Burke and Wheater centrally, Little and Robinson wing backs, Henry and Karacan holding, Vela behind Alf, and Noone left Ameobi on the right, there you go better than anything that goon will pick

Same team as I’d pick to be fair - aside Fromm karacan.

29 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 14:09

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:If Barnsley win today I can see Parkinson going mega negative, he just doesn't do positivity, we're going down.

Bit rich coming from you.
Give me a reason to be positive about Parkinson.

Promoted last year, out of the bottom 3 this.

30 Re: Derby 3-0 Bolton on Sat Apr 07 2018, 14:09

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
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3-2 Barnsley

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