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61Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 17:59

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The initial scan on Eset took about two hours. Thereafter they took about twenty minutes. I rarely do a scan these days. Real time scanning means it's caught straight away.

62Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:01

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Malwarebytes is a great tool to have. Download the free version and you can scan on demand. It'll catch anything your AV missed.

63Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:06

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Again, you need to get out more.

There are no viruses in the real world, unless you sleep with KP or Norpig.

64Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:13

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:Two pages of this shit.

Can't wait for tomorrow - what sort of door locks do you use?
I have Yale locks on my front and back PVC doors but it's a pain in the arse when aligning the key to the lock when putting it in as you put it in sideways! 

Anyone else have this trouble?

65Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:15

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I get the butler to let me in.

66Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:17

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:This is all good advice i think, i pay £80+ for Norton AV so the free ones are of interest to me.

If you don't like it start your own thread on something of interest to you - how about where to buy size 12 ladies shoes?
I'm sure you can get Norton cheaper than that! Shocked 

Why would a software company offer an antivirus for free when other companies charge?

Can't be as good really though if you think about it.

Are the virus definitions updated frequently like once a week?

Hmm...

67Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:23

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I agree KP. I got Norton for £29.99. It covers 10 devices. But I think they ramp it up to around £60 when it comes time to renew. That's why I walked away to Eset.

68Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:50

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

I have just had a look at this link but it only gives you a 14 day free trial. After that it's £29.99 a year.

69Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:53

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Reebok Trotter wrote:

I have just had a look at this link but it only gives you a 14 day free trial. After that it's £29.99 a year.
That's only for the paid version which scans in real time. You only need download the free version and simply scan when you feel like.
In fact,download the free trial,and,after 14 days it'll ask you if you want to purchase a subscription,or revert to the free on demand scanner.
WinWin.

70Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Jul 04 2017, 18:55

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:
@Reebok Trotter wrote:

I have just had a look at this link but it only gives you a 14 day free trial. After that it's £29.99 a year.
That's only for the paid version which scans in real time. You only need download the free version and simply scan when you feel like.
In fact,download the free trial,and,after 14 days it'll ask you if you want to purchase a subscription,or revert to the free on demand scanner.
WinWin.
 Cheers. I'll download it now! I love a bargain!  Very Happy

71Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Mon Nov 04 2019, 13:50

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Anyone use Malwarebytes anti virus?
Had an email from my bank saying that I can download it for free with a 3 year licence, on up to 10 devices.
Now, I'm pretty happy with my existing AV, which is F-Secure Safe, but it's costing me nearly £70 a year, so I'm wondering if Malwarebytes is a reasonable replacement.
Had a look at some reviews, but I wondered if anyone had any hands on experience with it.

72Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Mon Nov 04 2019, 13:53

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
I use the free version and have never had any trouble either with it or viruses since it has been installed - which reminds me I need to get the free update!

73Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Mon Nov 04 2019, 14:08

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:I use the free version and have never had any trouble either with it or viruses since it has been installed - which reminds me I need to get the free update!
I think the free version is an on demand scanner. I don't think it protects in real time. If it works for you though, fair play.
An expert once told me the best protection is in your head. Be sensible about sites you visit, and what you download.
Might give it a go on my Windows laptop and see how it goes.

74Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Mon Nov 04 2019, 14:17

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@boltonbonce wrote:
@xmiles wrote:I use the free version and have never had any trouble either with it or viruses since it has been installed - which reminds me I need to get the free update!
I think the free version is an on demand scanner. I don't think it protects in real time. If it works for you though, fair play.
An expert once told me the best protection is in your head. Be sensible about sites you visit, and what you download.
Might give it a go on my Windows laptop and see how it goes.

You are almost certainly right about Malwarebytes being an on demand scanner but you are definitely right about the best protection being in your head. Smile

75Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Mon Nov 04 2019, 16:31

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Malwarebytes is decent product but it depends on how far you want to go with security because at the end of the day everything you ever do on the internet is recorded, sold and used. Yesterday I visited a totally unrelated website to buy a fancy vacuum flask/drinks bottle for my sister and today their ad appeared on my FB page. Spooky? Not really. Yet again I would refer you to The Great Hack which covers this in detail.

76Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Mon Nov 04 2019, 17:02

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:Malwarebytes is decent product but it depends on how far you want to go with security because at the end of the day everything you ever do on the internet is recorded, sold and used. Yesterday I visited a totally unrelated website to buy a fancy vacuum flask/drinks bottle for my sister and today their ad appeared on my FB page. Spooky? Not really. Yet again I would refer you to The Great Hack which covers this in detail.
You have cookies that are tracking you in the web browser you use (spyware).

Best thing to do is get some ad block protection for your browser!

77Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Nov 05 2019, 01:40

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:Malwarebytes is decent product but it depends on how far you want to go with security because at the end of the day everything you ever do on the internet is recorded, sold and used. Yesterday I visited a totally unrelated website to buy a fancy vacuum flask/drinks bottle for my sister and today their ad appeared on my FB page. Spooky? Not really. Yet again I would refer you to The Great Hack which covers this in detail.
You have cookies that are tracking you in the web browser you use (spyware).

Best thing to do is get some ad block protection for your browser!
That's the how for sure.
Not something that ESET deals with? I've set Privacy to delete cookies and webdata when I close Firefox on one computer and will have a mess about with my Mac tomorrow - but suspect I may make life difficult for myself if I don't find the right balance.

78Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Nov 05 2019, 11:32

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Cookies don't really bother me, and certainly help pages to load faster.
If truth be told our privacy has gone for good. We've entered into a pact with the devil, and there's no way out.
As long as I can keep viruses, malware and ransomware at arms length, I'm content.

79Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Nov 05 2019, 14:05

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Do any of you use Trusteer Endpoint Protection?



It was a freebie from my bank a few years ago.

80Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Nov 05 2019, 14:44

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Cajunboy wrote:Do any of you use Trusteer Endpoint Protection?




My bank used it, and it was pretty much rubbish. This change to Malwarebytes is a much better solution.

https://computing.which.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/115005579745-Should-you-use-Trusteer-Rapport-

81Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Nov 05 2019, 15:22

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@boltonbonce wrote:
@Cajunboy wrote:Do any of you use Trusteer Endpoint Protection?




My bank used it, and it was pretty much rubbish. This change to Malwarebytes is a much better solution.

https://computing.which.co.uk/hc/en-gb/articles/115005579745-Should-you-use-Trusteer-Rapport-

Yes I agree. I wouldn't use it myself.

82Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Tue Nov 05 2019, 15:55

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Thanks folks.

83Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Wed Nov 06 2019, 22:11

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I downloaded Malwarebytes Premium to give it a try on a Windows laptop. A free 3 year licence for up to ten computers seemed a bargain, but I thought I'd better test it first.
After using it for a few days, I have to say I think my bank has got this one wrong.
My CPU was almost permanently at 90-100%, and the laptop was reduced to a crawl.
I'm sticking with F-Secure. It's nearly £80 a year, but it works well, and includes a free VPN.

84Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Wed Nov 06 2019, 22:34

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Surprised to hear this bonce. I did have Malwarebytes Premium on a short term free trial and experienced no problems with it.

85Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Wed Nov 06 2019, 22:39

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
What are the specs of the laptop Bonce?

86Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Wed Nov 06 2019, 23:18

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Intel core i5, 8GB Ram, 256 GB SSD,Windows 10 pro.

I use Macs mainly, but it's a good laptop. Never had any problems with other AV's, but it doesn't like Malwartebytes. Going like a dream since uninstalling it and returning to F-Secure.

87Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Wed Nov 06 2019, 23:26

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:Intel core i5, 8GB Ram, 256 GB SSD,Windows 10 pro.

I use Macs mainly, but it's a good laptop. Never had any problems with other AV's, but it doesn't like Malwartebytes. Going like a dream since uninstalling it and returning to F-Secure.

Antivirus and anti malware software is generally more ram hungry than the usage of a CPU. You have 8gb which is ample for running the usual software on top of windows 10.

It could be a bug in the latest version of the software that is eating system resources.

Did you check task manager for example to see what it was using out of interest?

We used to use Norton Sytemworks 2000 back in the day with Norton Antivirus and found that to be heavily bloated and that really did slow the system down. The software wasn't cheap then either.

I moved on to the Symantec End Ppoint Protection which a lot of businesses use and is very light on system resorces.

It's also a bit keen on protection too TBH with even blocking the auto run from software. Very Happy

88Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Wed Nov 06 2019, 23:41

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
To be honest, I don't consider Malwarebytes a real AV. Their claim that it can replace your existing AV is a bit naughty. I'd certainly use the free version as an on demand scanner, but I think I'll stay away from it as an AV solution.
I'm sure some people have no bother with it, but I can't give it many marks out of ten.

89Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Thu Nov 07 2019, 20:54

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:To be honest, I don't consider Malwarebytes a real AV. Their claim that it can replace your existing AV is a bit naughty. I'd certainly use the free version as an on demand scanner, but I think I'll stay away from it as an AV solution.
I'm sure some people have no bother with it, but I can't give it many marks out of ten.

I used Malwayebytes when it first came out yonks ago along with hijack this after downloading something dodgy and it installing the usual shite such as multiple search toolbars, changing the default search and homepage settings along with popups blocking you from doing stuff on your PC.

I must be going back to the days of when Windows XP came out.

I haven't had the need to use it since so can't comment on what other software features they have incorporated into it.

Customers PC's get personal files backed up and then wiped if they have shit on them as it saves time rather than spending hours trying to remove stuff if it's really that bad.

I feel protected enough with my Symantec End Point Protection which includes network protection along with my Routers built in SPI firewall.

Malwarebytes is one of those applications I feel I can't trust to do the whole job unlike other more well known software.

90Computer security - Page 3 Empty Re: Computer security on Thu Nov 07 2019, 21:04

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Norton used to be very heavy, but it's great now. If I didn't use F-Secure I'd certainly use it. That or Eset.

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