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31Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton on Sun Feb 03 2019, 18:33

MartinBWFC

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Frank Worthington
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Whether you approve of the footballing style in which he has done it, what he's achieved at Bolton on paper is excellent and if he kept us up again it would be phenomenal. I don't think he can be blamed for not walking away, we're not exactly 10 points adrift, even if that's where it's looking like we'll ultimately be.

I don't blame anyone for wanting Parky to just do one, the football is depressing, the mentality is Megson-esque, it's like watching paint dry going to the games at the minute and has been from day one.

What makes me laugh though is people thinking we're well positioned to attract someone with the capacity to take this squad full of past its, cast-offs, and kids, and get it competing in a league where the average club is spending £10m+ a season.

We're used to seeing new managers coming in and making a big difference at least for a couple of months. Maybe now's the time to accept that this team is just a pile of turds that ain't gonna get polished, whether it's Mark Warburton or Jurgen Klopp.
What a load of bollocks, this squad is filled with mostly Championship, Premier league players, so listening to your rhetoric these players have suddenly become shite, this squad if utilised correctly should and probably would climb the league.

Stick with this goon and I'd be very surprised to see us getting anything more than 8 points between now and May, there's still a lot of points to play for, but we're not going to get them from a manager that the ideal game is 0-0, the man is a dinosaur in tactical terms, so to say any new manager couldn't get a tune out of this squad, well I'll go back to my original comment, what a load of bollocks.

Martin I can't believe you still have the cheek to spout your hypocritical nonsense on here, your outrageously fickle, temperamental ways have been exposed before.

I probably shouldn't waste my energy with you, but just for the fun of it I will. I want to examine your claim that this squad is "filled with mostly Championship, Premier League players". I don't actually know what this means but for argument sake what I'm going assume is you think this squad is awash with players of a Championship/PL quality.

Let's have a look through yesterday's starting line up:

Matthews - PL matches played 0, Championship matches played 5
Lowe - Released by his last two Championship clubs
Wheater - Considerable Championship experience, debatable Championship quality. Played great in League One granted.
Taylor - Has had some success at this level many moons ago, but again, released by his last 3 Championship clubs.
Hobbs - Again, some success but ultimately, let go by his last two/three Championship clubs.
Callum Connolly - Not a bad signing, but can't expect much from a 21 year old who to date has only played on loan at a handful of other lower Championship clubs.
Connell - Great potential but he's 17 at the end of the day.
O'Neill - Can't fault his commitment and fitness for a 35 year old but his last FIVE Championship clubs didn't want him.
Vela - Struggled with fitness and consistency at this level for years.
Ameobi - See Vela.
Donaldson - Turns 35 next week, let go by Birmingham, then Bristol, now he's our star striker.

It's one thing saying this squad has got enough quality, I just think a lot of people say it without meaning it, or perhaps they don't look deep enough into it.
Ok we'll agree to disagree, but I will bet that as soon as Parkinson is binned results will improve dramatically.

32Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton on Sun Feb 03 2019, 18:42

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:What makes me laugh though is people thinking we're well positioned to attract someone with the capacity to take this squad full of past its, cast-offs, and kids, and get it competing in a league where the average club is spending £10m+ a season.

I don't think any Bolton fan expects to win the league, but anyone who thinks this squad is playing to its full potential is a giant bellend.


Hi. I was just waiting for you to pop up with some bullshit.

I'm gonna take your point. I think it's reasonable enough to imagine a new manager coming in and for at least a few matches, a handful of players perform at a slightly less shit level than they currently are doing.

Here's the question, is it sustainable? How many times have we seen a new manager come in, get a seemingly useless set of players putting 110% in, and picking up some points. Said manager gets his arsed kissed for a while, but before long we're back to square one, and nobody wants to admit that ultimately it boils down to us not having the financial backing, and we start looking for somebody else.

33Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton on Sun Feb 03 2019, 18:52

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Hi. I was just waiting for you to pop up with some bullshit.

I'm gonna take your point. I think it's reasonable enough to imagine a new manager coming in and for at least a few matches, a handful of players perform at a slightly less shit level than they currently are doing.


That may happen, or a new manager might win every game. That's the beauty of football, no one knows - especially not a gobshite like you.

All I ask for is a manager that has his team on the front foot, and actually gets players in who fit into his style of play.

How many of Parky's signings have been regulars since day one? Only Ameobi & Lowe from yesterdays 18 fall into that category. Parky seems to recruit them, talk them up, then leave them out.

34Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton on Sun Feb 03 2019, 19:02

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Andy Walker
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Hi. I was just waiting for you to pop up with some bullshit.

I'm gonna take your point. I think it's reasonable enough to imagine a new manager coming in and for at least a few matches, a handful of players perform at a slightly less shit level than they currently are doing.


That may happen, or a new manager might win every game. That's the beauty of football, no one knows - especially not a gobshite like you.

All I ask for is a manager that has his team on the front foot, and actually gets players in who fit into his style of play.

How many of Parky's signings have been regulars since day one?  Only Ameobi & Lowe from yesterdays 18 fall into that category. Parky seems to recruit them, talk them up, then leave them out.

I agree.  How many play on the same side of the field week after week?

35Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton on Sun Feb 03 2019, 19:23

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Hi. I was just waiting for you to pop up with some bullshit.

I'm gonna take your point. I think it's reasonable enough to imagine a new manager coming in and for at least a few matches, a handful of players perform at a slightly less shit level than they currently are doing.


That may happen, or a new manager might win every game. That's the beauty of football, no one knows - especially not a gobshite like you.

All I ask for is a manager that has his team on the front foot, and actually gets players in who fit into his style of play.

How many of Parky's signings have been regulars since day one?  Only Ameobi & Lowe from yesterdays 18 fall into that category. Parky seems to recruit them, talk them up, then leave them out.

I agree.  How many play on the same side of the field week after week?

Who cares?

Don't get me wrong I have slated previous managers for tinkering unnecessarily.

But in the past we've had players who actually had the potential to really influence matches.

At the minute, all we've got is a group of equally uninspiring footballers, except maybe Ameobi who has his limitations.

I mean, does anybody really care if he plays O'Neill as opposed to Murphy, for example? Neither are match winners, neither are absolute liabilities. They are quite equally substandard.

36Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton on Sun Feb 03 2019, 19:55

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
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Who cares?

Don't get me wrong I have slated previous managers for tinkering unnecessarily.

But in the past we've had players who actually had the potential to really influence matches.

At the minute, all we've got is a group of equally uninspiring footballers, except maybe Ameobi who has his limitations.

I mean, does anybody really care if he plays O'Neill as opposed to Murphy, for example? Neither are match winners, neither are absolute liabilities. They are quite equally substandard.


:facepalm:

You missed the point by a country mile, as usual.

It isn't about his scattergun approach to team selection (although that's annoying), it's about the standard of player he signs.

Yes, it's difficult to make good signings in the free transfer/loan market but has he made more than one decent signing since he came to the club?

37Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheff Utd 2-0 Bolton on Sun Feb 03 2019, 20:37

Boggersbelief

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Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:What makes me laugh though is people thinking we're well positioned to attract someone with the capacity to take this squad full of past its, cast-offs, and kids, and get it competing in a league where the average club is spending £10m+ a season.

I don't think any Bolton fan expects to win the league, but anyone who thinks this squad is playing to its full potential is a giant bellend.








Even if this squad is underperforming, it’s not by much. Going down regardless because the players aren’t good enough

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