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511Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 11:55

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
I'm flattered. Smile

512Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 11:59

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@xmiles wrote:Honestly glos I have no idea what is going to happen

I can't see May getting her deal through parliament at the fourth attempt so she stands down but as I understand it she will keep acting as prime minister until the Tories elect a new leader. This will take weeks or possibly even longer. In the meantime there is apparently no parliamentary majority for any course of action.

The completely pointless cross party talks have achieved nothing apart from wasting more time and are about to be abandoned.

I know you would like MPs to get on with "completing brexit" but May's deal is unacceptable to most MPs and a no deal brexit is even more unacceptable so I don't see how this will happen. A second referendum might help but at the moment there is no parliamentary majority for this either.

There is a good summary of what could happen next on the BBC site below but your guess is as good as mine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
I agree May's deal is unacceptable, and I think she'll be shot down in flames as well. The way things are, all parties are in the doldrums, and the only indicator of a direction to go will be the European elections. However, as you state, most MP's want a no deal Brexit, but because nothing is happening, and all the politicians have argued themselves into a corner, many will be happy to accept the election results, as some sort of impetus/starting point, as it breaks the deadlock. 
This quiet period we've all enjoyed has highlighted the absolute havoc delays are causing our industries and investment. Added to that the recent report that not continuing with Brexit will now cause our trade serious damage.
I have never liked the second referendum idea, it shows the politicians have failed, and are passing the buck, and the public are so entrenched in their own camps now that the arguing will continue ad nauseum and though the numbers may change, nothing else will.

513Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 12:22

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:I'm voting for the Brexit Party just to piss you off.
Some people just can't accept it can they! Laughing

514Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 12:25

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I had the Brexit party leaflet come through my door the other day, it soon made it's way to my paper recycling bin as that's all it's good for.

515Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 13:08

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:I had the Brexit party leaflet come through my door the other day, it soon made it's way to my paper recycling bin as that's all it's good for.
I will frame mine when I get back to the UK. Very Happy

516Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 13:12

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@gloswhite wrote:
@xmiles wrote:Honestly glos I have no idea what is going to happen

I can't see May getting her deal through parliament at the fourth attempt so she stands down but as I understand it she will keep acting as prime minister until the Tories elect a new leader. This will take weeks or possibly even longer. In the meantime there is apparently no parliamentary majority for any course of action.

The completely pointless cross party talks have achieved nothing apart from wasting more time and are about to be abandoned.

I know you would like MPs to get on with "completing brexit" but May's deal is unacceptable to most MPs and a no deal brexit is even more unacceptable so I don't see how this will happen. A second referendum might help but at the moment there is no parliamentary majority for this either.

There is a good summary of what could happen next on the BBC site below but your guess is as good as mine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
I agree May's deal is unacceptable, and I think she'll be shot down in flames as well. The way things are, all parties are in the doldrums, and the only indicator of a direction to go will be the European elections. However, as you state, most MP's want a no deal Brexit, but because nothing is happening, and all the politicians have argued themselves into a corner, many will be happy to accept the election results, as some sort of impetus/starting point, as it breaks the deadlock. 
This quiet period we've all enjoyed has highlighted the absolute havoc delays are causing our industries and investment. Added to that the recent report that not continuing with Brexit will now cause our trade serious damage.
I have never liked the second referendum idea, it shows the politicians have failed, and are passing the buck, and the public are so entrenched in their own camps now that the arguing will continue ad nauseum and though the numbers may change, nothing else will.

I think you mean most MPs don't want a no deal brexit glos. Smile

Where have you read that not continuing with brexit will cause our trade "serious damage"? That seems highly unlikely as nothing will change if we stay in the EU.

517Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 15:15

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
You're right  Very Happy

It was on the TV, and on the newsfeed I have. Unfortunately, I can't remember exactly what the circumstances are for this to be the case, but I know it wasn't good. I'll see if I can find it. (we'll have probably left by the time I do)

518Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 15:42

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Anyone know when Lusty's coming back? Or is he banned for life?

519Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 15:44

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Was he banned?

520Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 15:45

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He tried to register on Chorley Nuts, he lasted 10 minutes.

521Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 15:53

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Lusty should be allowed back by now, whether he wants to come back is another story.

522Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 15:55

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Banned for life I thought.

523Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:00

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Where's our great and glorious leader to put us straight on this? It was only a temporary ban as far as i remember.

524Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:10

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Probably for the best just to prevent any further embarrassment.

525Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:15

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Yes because we can't have disagreements on a forum can we?

526Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:16

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Of course, but abuse is not necessary.

527Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:20

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
of course it is you Scottish wanker  Laughing

528Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:33

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:of course it is you Scottish wanker  Laughing

:banned: :banned: :banned:










Very Happy

529Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:36

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Norpig wrote:of course it is you Scottish wanker  Laughing

Laughing

530Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:50

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Not funny.

531Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 16:57

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Not funny.

No and I agree.

It's not nice being Scottish.

532Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Fri May 17 2019, 17:05

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:of course it is you Scottish wanker  Laughing
Bit harsh on our Scottish cousins Norpig. They're very inventive.

They even have their own cure for sea sickness. They lean over the side of the boat with a ten pence piece clenched in their teeth.

533Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat May 18 2019, 19:20

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
So is Lusty banned permanently then?

534Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations Yesterday at 17:23

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Soooo yes?

535Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations Yesterday at 18:01

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Back on topic.

A absolute car crash for jezza on Marr today.

536Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations Yesterday at 18:13

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
As I've said before I believe brexit is a disaster our children and grandchildren will suffer for but the British public voted for it and that result should be respected even though I personally hate it. In my opinion a no-deal Brexit is now more or less certain since we can't get agreement to the 'deal' through our own parliament and the EU is not going to negotiate any changes to it.

In some ways for the long term a no deal Brexit could well be a good thing. Once the British people realise for themselves just how unimportant Britain is on the world stage now and how little power we actually wield on our own it may well spur them into supporting a later re-entry into the EU.

Also is it just me or has anyone else noticed the glaring dichotomy in the stances of various politicians. For instance many Conservatives are in favour of Brexit on the grounds it makes us 'independent' from Europe but the moment anyone mentions Scottish independence from the UK they foam at the mouth about how the United Kingdom must be preserved and Scotland must always be part of it. Then you have the Scottish National Party demanding independence from Westminster on the one hand while simultaneously saying they want to stay in the European Union.

Frankly this sorry mess has dragged on for far too long already. If we're getting out then the politicians should just bite the damned bullet and take us out now with or without a deal. The fact we're about to have an election for a parliament we don't even want to be part of is just yet another sign of how farcical this whole situation has become.

537Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations Yesterday at 18:19

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@luckyPeterpiper wrote:As I've said before I believe brexit is a disaster our children and grandchildren will suffer

Get a grip. Your kids and grandkids will make their own way in life regardless of whether we are in the EU or not. It's an insult to them to say otherwise.

538Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations Yesterday at 18:27

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The planet is going to hell in a hand cart. Brexit doesn't really matter.

One eminent scientist thinks large areas of the earth will no longer be viable for human life within the next 60 years.

Downhill from there.

539Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations Yesterday at 18:55

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@luckyPeterpiper wrote:As I've said before I believe brexit is a disaster our children and grandchildren will suffer

Get a grip. Your kids and grandkids will make their own way in life regardless of whether we are in the EU or not. It's an insult to them to say otherwise.

I never said they wouldn't Nat but it will be much harder for them as a result of this. That's not just my own opinion either, take a good look at any of the financial papers or other media outlets and they're saying the same.

540Brexit negotiations - Page 18 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations Yesterday at 19:07

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@luckyPeterpiper wrote:That's not just my own opinion either, take a good look at any of the financial papers or other media outlets and they're saying the same.

A truly embarrassing post. Are you related to xmiles?

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