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91OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 12:49

MartinBWFC

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Might get some news today.




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92OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 12:53

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I too think something is amiss. I don't set any store about James changing his accountant as he has a flourishing business and I don't think his involvement with FV would cause him to change his accountant. I think something bigger might be happening. By now we should have heard about FV plans for the future, acknowledgement that the deal had finally been signed off, perhaps someone blowing the FV trumpet about how things will get better. But so far there has been silence and that's worrying.

Point I was trying to tip toe around was what if James original accountant was a one man band type of firm (rather than several other fully trained accountants working there) and he had suddenly took ill/died, necessitating him having to find someone else to be his accountant.

Surely the new accountant would have to satisfy themselves of the safety of their new clients investment into a club that had fallen into Admin with Mr Ken Anderson's 'alleged' deliberate rapping of it?

That's the point I was delicately trying to make and not that James wealth or business couldn't afford to make the investment.

All guesswork on my part but I just found it strange to change your accountant at this stage as I would have thought if your accountant was suddenly taken ill, then someone else would step up and deal with you (unless they were a one man band company) or if your accountant moved to another company that they would not be allowed to take their clients with them.

93OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 13:04

Norpig

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I'll bet it's another don't panic it's happening really message like the one last week.

94OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 13:55

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fully expect a statement to be made by Wanderers' administrators by the close of play today. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/bwfc?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#bwfc</a></p>— Marc Iles (@MarcIles) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcIles/status/1144207774894755840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I'll bet it's another don't panic it's happening really message like the one last week.

exactly what I thought!

95OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 15:17

Cajunboy

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Please don't worry, the deal will be done by the 31st  October 2019.

96OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 15:49

luckyPeterpiper

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Frank Worthington
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While I appreciate some things are personal and private I believe the club should at least have said something in the last couple of weeks to let us know the deal is still on or if it's off. I don't wish to seem insensitive but given how little time there is between now and the new season someone needs to step up and say (at least in general terms) if and when we can expect the deal to be done. The total silence isn't helping anything and only causes speculation that could be both wildly inaccurate and possibly even harmful to the club.

97OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 15:51

Natasha Whittam


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Boggers will be on soon to update us.

98OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 15:54

luckyPeterpiper

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Frank Worthington
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I sincerely hope someone does Nat but I'd prefer it to be someone who actually knows something about what's happening. Don't you think it's bad that there's been absolute silence from the club on anything concerning the takeover for several weeks already?

99OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 16:02

rammywhite

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I too think something is amiss. I don't set any store about James changing his accountant as he has a flourishing business and I don't think his involvement with FV would cause him to change his accountant. I think something bigger might be happening. By now we should have heard about FV plans for the future, acknowledgement that the deal had finally been signed off, perhaps someone blowing the FV trumpet about how things will get better. But so far there has been silence and that's worrying.

Point I was trying to tip toe around was what if James original accountant was a one man band type of firm (rather than several other fully trained accountants working there) and he had suddenly took ill/died, necessitating him having to find someone else to be his accountant.

Surely the new accountant would have to satisfy themselves of the safety of their new clients investment into a club that had fallen into Admin with Mr Ken Anderson's 'alleged' deliberate rapping of it?

That's the point I was delicately trying to make and not that James wealth or business couldn't afford to make the investment.

All guesswork on my part but I just found it strange to change your accountant at this stage as I would have thought if your accountant was suddenly taken ill, then someone else would step up and deal with you (unless they were a one man band company) or if your accountant moved to another company that they would not be allowed to take their clients with them.

OK Sluffy, I can see the point that you're making. But the word 'accountant' although singular often refers to the accountancy practice that you're with. So if you say your accountant is KPMG -it follows that they're a very large 'accountant'  indeed. So James's other business which is substantial in itself may have changed their accountants ( note, the plural) for a number of reasons  ,which I won't go into. Its highly unlikely that it was a one man band. There will  other valid reasons for him shifting to another organisation. His accountant(s) would only be involved in his participation of his involvement in FV if he invited them to, but you can bet that his lawyers and accountants would be all over his involvement like a rash. If you check at Companies House you should find out who his accountants are.

100OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 16:54

Sluffy

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OK Sluffy, I can see the point that you're making. But the word 'accountant' although singular often refers to the accountancy practice that you're with. So if you say your accountant is KPMG -it follows that they're a very large 'accountant'  indeed. So James's other business which is substantial in itself may have changed their accountants ( note, the plural) for a number of reasons  ,which I won't go into. Its highly unlikely that it was a one man band. There will  other valid reasons for him shifting to another organisation. His accountant(s) would only be involved in his participation of his involvement in FV if he invited them to, but you can bet that his lawyers and accountants would be all over his involvement like a rash. If you check at Companies House you should find out who his accountants are.

Thanks for your suggestion.

I've checked at Companies House and you are correct, his other companies seem to use the services of the one he's just transferred to on Chorley New Road.

I suppose that begs the question of why he registered his address at the building in Westhoughton (where by the way I could not figure out who or what was based there - it's a very prominent house on the main Street in Westhoughton (near the church) but can't find it being used as an accountants, or solicitors, or even for himself (I believe he resides else where in Westhoughton) to his regular accountants?

And why he changed it now?

I guess everything will become known to us in due course.

PS - I did know about accountants and their practices but couldn't think of any reason why he might have moved accountant (if that's what he actually did - which probably now appears it wasn't) unless say his retired best mate was doing it as a personal favour for him, then took ill.

Anyway at least no accountants seemed to be hurt in the posting of my thoughts - which is obviously a good thing!

101OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 17:19

rammywhite

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Sluffy, save me the time in checking with Companies House please. Who does he use in Bolton? Is it Cowgills?

102OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 17:33

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Sluffy, save me the time in checking with Companies House please. Who does he use in Bolton? Is it Cowgills?

His accountants are Bensons, formerly CLB Coopers of Laurel House, 173 Chorley New Road and that is where his registered address is on the Companies House, in respect of his various Directorships.

103OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 18:09

Sluffy

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104OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 18:37

Sluffy

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105OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 20:36

Sluffy

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From Mike Minay BBC Radio Manchester -




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106OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 20:40

Natasha Whittam


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:facepalm:

107OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 20:47

karlypants

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Did you read it four times too? Very Happy

108OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 20:48

Natasha Whittam


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Clearly Martin has been promoted to IT support.

109OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 21:19

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Clearly Martin has been promoted to IT support.

Don't know what you are on about?

I put up a tweet by someone showing three pictures of what the Administrator had said in his press briefing.

As these were only 'part' pictures, I posted the full pictures (which could be shown in just two pictures) below so everyone can read them easily.

As for Martin - even after once again explaining how to post up tweets (and having one or two having a pop at me for the way I did it) - he again posted a tweet up earlier that I had to go and mod and put it right for him - yet again!

Christ I know some people aren't computer literate but how hard is following an 'idiots' list, to do something?

110OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 21:38

Natasha Whittam


Nat Lofthouse
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KP started it.

111OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Thu Jun 27 2019, 23:56

finlaymcdanger

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How many people believe that they're actually 'working around the clock' to get this deal done?

I reckon they've all had to get home by 5.15pm before their Aldi frozen chicken kiev passes its use by date.

This bullshit is beyond mundane to say the least.

112OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Fri Jun 28 2019, 00:44

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:How many people believe that they're actually 'working around the clock' to get this deal done?

I reckon they've all had to get home by 5.15pm before their Aldi frozen chicken kiev passes its use by date.

This bullshit is beyond mundane to say the least.

At the rates Administrators charge I don't think they'd be shopping at Aldi.

Depending on where they live also, they might even be staying at the hotel, so maybe they are finding it convenient to be putting in the additional hours.

I suspect that there is something around the Hotel which is being the fly in the ointment in completing the deal.

There doesn't seem to be much news coming out from the Hotel Administrators - least not from what I've seen.  If you compare the process with that for the club I would have thought by now the accountants have forensically been examined, the 'war room' or whatever they call it, as been set up for prospective purchasers and the Hotel is being marketed for the required 21 days.  But we've heard nothing about such things?

I know the original hope was that they could be sold combined but I guess that isn't happening and that perhaps the 'splitting' off between the two has caused queries and disagreements with the potential purchasers of both?

It does sound as though things have been close a couple of times already and maybe something personal effecting one of the key players have been one of the reasons for a delay?

I think things are promising from the Administrators statement, they certainly could have worded it less positively if things were not looking to good, so I guess we have to stay patient a bit longer, but fingers crossed, not for much longer now.

113OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Fri Jun 28 2019, 12:38

DEANO82

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Is it Gerald Cid?
Franck Passi?

114OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Fri Jun 28 2019, 14:12

terenceanne

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The key phrase is "Hope we are now very close"...….Hope rather than knows for a fact. So at best it will be another week...… We may be able to field a five-a-side team if this goes much longer  Rolling Eyes

115OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Sat Jun 29 2019, 16:28

MartinBWFC

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HoTs signed.

Statement on behalf of the Joint Administrators for Bolton Wanderers

The Joint Administrators for Bolton Wanderers can confirm a Heads of Terms agreement has been signed with the preferred bidder for the acquisition of the club. 

Paul Appleton of David Rubin & Partners said: “For legal reasons, I cannot name the preferred bidder until Monday. But I realise just how important it is Bolton fans are given confidence we are now a major step closer to the sale of the club and securing its future.

“This has not always been a straightforward process owing mainly to the need to condense what would normally be a four to five month timeframe into closer to seven weeks.

“But there has been a willingness on all sides to work tirelessly to ensure the survival of the club and, in particular, I’d like to thank the Eddie Davies Trust who have shown a deep and true understanding of what Bolton Wanderers means to the fans and the wider community.

“Again, I’d like to reiterate my regret at not always being able to keep the supporters completely up to speed with the progress of the deal but the important thing is the club is now a further step forward to being saved. Now begins the rebuilding process.

"With the Heads of Terms having been signed, we move towards a Sale and Purchase Agreement and completion of the transaction at the earliest possible stage.

“This club has suffered greatly but I would like to pay tribute to all the staff who, under the most dire of circumstances, have shown their loyalty and devotion to Bolton Wanderers. The deserve days like this after all they have been through.
“The next step is a completion of the deal and the start of a new era for the club. There will be a further update in due course."

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116OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Sun Jun 30 2019, 16:37

DEANO82

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Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Guess whose back

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117OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Sun Jun 30 2019, 16:43

MartinBWFC

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I'm almost certain that this cretin is Anderson's stooge, trying their hardest to fuck us over.

118OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Sun Jun 30 2019, 17:21

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Always knew this arsehole would pop back up at some point.

119OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Sun Jun 30 2019, 19:05

Natasha Whittam


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This man bleeds BWFC and you bellends are slagging him off.

The man is desperate to lead us back to the promised land, yet all he gets is abuse.

Shameful.

120OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! - Page 4 Empty Re: OFFICIAL CLUB SOLD TO FV!!!!! on Mon Jul 01 2019, 16:28

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Still no bloody announcement!

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