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121So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 17:11

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
I agree, the world has changed. All we can do is try to show compassion and be good to others and ourselves. People are full of delusions, and when you have people with delusions and arrogance it is a bad mix.
I meditate a lot, it is wonderful for equanimity and peace. There is no such things as the past, only a memory and with delusions of it. There is no such thing as tomorrow, and there never will be. There is no such thing as the future, it is just an idea. All there is, is the eternal now. All there is, is the present. Meditation puts one in control of this, and continued practise of stopping the ceaseless chatter in ones mind gives a glimpse of reality, the eternal now. No past, no future, just now.

122So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 17:21

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse



https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/15/students-accuse-teachers-of-peddling-anti-brexit-propaganda-at-school-10737437/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


Says it all really!

123So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 17:25

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
David Cameron has recommended a second referendum and he was the one who did this. Is David Cameron peddling bias?

124So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 19:46

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
@sunlight wrote:David Cameron has recommended a second referendum and he was the one who did this. Is David Cameron peddling bias?
No, David Cameron is a posh kid who messed things up and is unable to take full responsibility for it, so blames others. Boris bashing seems to be a national pastime just now and having a go at him serves nothing other than raising the profile of his book.

125So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 19:49

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
@sunlight wrote:I agree, the world has changed. All we can do is try to show compassion and be good to others and ourselves. People are full of delusions, and when you have people with delusions and arrogance it is a bad mix.
I meditate a lot, it is wonderful for equanimity and peace. There is no such things as the past, only a memory and with delusions of it. There is no such thing as tomorrow, and there never will be. There is no such thing as the future, it is just an idea. All there is, is the eternal now. All there is, is the present. Meditation puts one in control of this, and continued practise of stopping the ceaseless chatter in ones mind gives a glimpse of reality, the eternal now. No past, no future, just now.
Quite an unusual view for here, however, a nice way to approach things mostly. The only thing I would say is that your perspective has been gained from experience, something our kids have yet to achieve.

126So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 19:52

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@xmiles wrote:
@gloswhite wrote:
@sunlight wrote:Vaudeville Johnson, the Clown, just needs a backfiring small car and a red fluffy wig. He can get out of the car, in which the door he opens falls off and then he can start making shapes out of balloons for the television cameras. And that is all he does, he has no plans, nothing. He has a long history of making a very very expensive mess out of everything he is in charge of.

Its nice to see you all making sensible, unbiased comments. 
Unlike the last Labour government, The PM hasn't left the country with a mountain of debt, and nothing in the coffers.  
Some people have a very short memory. Why do you think so many people don't want a Corbyn government?

Boris wasted millions when he was mayor of London. Now he is promising billions of extra spending money and tax cuts for the rich even though there is no explanation as to where this money is coming from. Even his own brother and sister realise that he is a lying egomaniac with no interest in anybody or anything but himsel
Did they tell you that in a conversation? if not shut the fuck up.

127So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 20:04

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Very Happy

128So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Sun Sep 15 2019, 20:43

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Some of Johnsons, or rather whats left of Johnsons advisors remind me of Jafar from Aladdin.

129So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 05:53

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@xmiles wrote:Karly and Nat will never provide any rational explanation of why they voted leave. I wonder why.

I've told you a hundred times why I voted to leave. You disagreed.

Let's not do the same dance.

I must have missed it. Could you please post a link to just one of these 100 occasions.

130So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 06:37

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Hillarious that remainers have spent years suggesting leavers are "obsessed with the racist British empire."

But they just cheered guy verhodstadt at their conference calling for an EU empire.

Did remainers know what they were voting for?

131So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 10:22

Guest


Guest
Shocking choice of words, the empire is a stain on our national conscience and he should know better.

Theres some truth in the notion that economically, Eu countries are only going to be effective when working as a unit rather than individuals though given the scale of America, China or India.

132So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 14:16

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He believes in an EU superstate. An empire. 

The remain party applauded him as if he was a god. 

The accusation of empire infatuation against leavers has clearly been misplaced.

133So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 16:12

Guest


Guest
I'm no fan of the Lib Dems or their position on Brexit I think they're as bad as the right-wingers who've taken over your party, we need compromise not extreme positions.

But I do stand by my point, poor choice of language but correct on an economic level.

134So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 21:39

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Its all gone to rat shit, and no matter how much we try to justify, or even predict future Brexit moves, I feel that at the end of the day, nobody will be happy with the final outcome.

135So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 22:08

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We won't leave, ever.

136So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Mon Sep 16 2019, 22:14

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:We won't leave, ever.

To be fair, I think you said that the day after the referendum.

137So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Tue Sep 17 2019, 07:07

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:We won't leave, ever.

To be fair, I think you said that the day after the referendum.

I did. I was right then and I'm still right.

138So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Tue Sep 17 2019, 07:09

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Hillarious. The party of the EU has decided that after three years bleating about democracy and giving the public another say have decided not to bother. 

Well just ignore the vote and cancel it

What are they afraid of? Democracy? Femi will be crying into his chai latte and smashed avo this morning.

Btw. Who funds him.

139So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Tue Sep 17 2019, 10:33

Guest


Guest
@gloswhite wrote:Its all gone to rat shit, and no matter how much we try to justify, or even predict future Brexit moves, I feel that at the end of the day, nobody will be happy with the final outcome.

Impossible to deliver something based on a pack of lies. May should have fronted up instead entertaining the fantasies for two years.

140So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Tue Sep 17 2019, 10:53

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
All elections are run on a pack of lies too.

I don't think we should implement the results of them either.

141So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Tue Sep 17 2019, 11:09

Guest


Guest
Vote for this party and they'll run the country for 4 years, we've got centuries of parliamentary democracy designed to implement that.

Vote leave and we'll be able to do more trade, while maintaining what we already have and have more control over our laws - has turned out to be a pack of lies, which is impossible to implement.

The fantasy has come tumbling down, instead of admitting that Leavers are blaming MPs and remainers. As predicted 3 years ago.

142So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Tue Sep 17 2019, 11:22

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Yes and the party you vote for make a number of promises to secure your vote for those 4 years. 

Most of them turn out to be lies.

As I said. Election results should not be implemented.

143So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Tue Sep 17 2019, 15:08

Guest


Guest
That's the party you vote for, not me. But the real difference is that it's impossible to deliver what was sold. It is going to be damaging to the country, we weren't controlled by the EU and we will have to suffer the effects.

There's still no version of Brexit that satisfies leavers, so it's a case of blaming everybody else for this mess.

144So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Wed Sep 18 2019, 08:17

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
scratch

145So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Wed Sep 18 2019, 08:24

Guest


Guest
Welcome Miles, privileged to be connected to ‘the best tipster so far’.

146So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Wed Sep 18 2019, 09:49

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Where did Miles go?

147So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Wed Sep 18 2019, 10:11

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:Where did Miles go?
He went to tipster heaven. Smile

148So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Wed Sep 18 2019, 17:51

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Another smear against Boris

It’s getting rather pathetic now.

149So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Wed Sep 18 2019, 18:07

Guest


Guest
His gripe is with Tory policy not Boris. Smear implies it’s not true that NHS standards have dived - actually that’s a fact.

Think you’re being over sensitive.

150So much for parliamentary democracy - Page 5 Empty Re: So much for parliamentary democracy on Wed Sep 18 2019, 20:35

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse



:facepalm: 

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