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91General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Thu Nov 07 2019, 15:37

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Labour always say they will raise the living wage to £10. Good idea but why only 10.

Why don't they make it £300ph and then everyone will be rich.
...but a loaf of bread will be £40.

It won't be. Labour have plans to nationalise restaurants that would provide food for all at a reasonable price. 

Corbyn has said he wishes to eradicate billionaires so everyone can be "wealthy."

Wealthy imo is earning over 80k a year.

So for everyone to wealthy the minimum wage will have to be 80k.

I will vote for that.

92General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Thu Nov 07 2019, 15:42

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@gloswhite wrote:A national debt that is at its lowest for 17 years
Be honest, does anyone really believe this?

Well they shouldn't because you are totally wrong! You are confusing annual government borrowing with the national debt. In fact the national debt has nearly doubled after 10 years of Tory management. Look at the graph WL provided!

You should be more careful about what you believe glos. Laughing

93General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Thu Nov 07 2019, 16:17

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Labour always say they will raise the living wage to £10. Good idea but why only 10.

Why don't they make it £300ph and then everyone will be rich.
...but a loaf of bread will be £40.

It won't be. Labour have plans to nationalise restaurants that would provide food for all at a reasonable price. 

Corbyn has said he wishes to eradicate billionaires so everyone can be "wealthy."

Wealthy imo is earning over 80k a year.

So for everyone to wealthy the minimum wage will have to be 80k.

I will vote for that.
So you're voting Labour then?

94General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Thu Nov 07 2019, 21:10

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
An example of what I hate about politics. The dreaded photo opportunity.

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95General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Thu Nov 07 2019, 21:15

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:An example of what I hate about politics. The dreaded photo opportunity.

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Can't diagree with that.

They ALL have something going on with fish and chips they are pictured with too! Very Happy

96General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Thu Nov 07 2019, 21:19

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Labour always say they will raise the living wage to £10. Good idea but why only 10.

Why don't they make it £300ph and then everyone will be rich.
...but a loaf of bread will be £40.

It won't be. Labour have plans to nationalise restaurants that would provide food for all at a reasonable price. 

Corbyn has said he wishes to eradicate billionaires so everyone can be "wealthy."

Wealthy imo is earning over 80k a year.

So for everyone to wealthy the minimum wage will have to be 80k.

I will vote for that.
So you're voting Labour then?

Oh yes.

I'm promised wealth and a 4 day week. Who wouldn't?

97General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Thu Nov 07 2019, 22:01

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The bastards. They're playing dirty.

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98General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Fri Nov 08 2019, 10:04

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Boris has gone viral this morning after an incoherent rambling press interview in which he said (amongst other things) that Northern Ireland has got a great deal as they have freedom of movement. I’m assuming he was pissed.

99General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Fri Nov 08 2019, 13:55

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@wanderlust wrote:Boris has gone viral this morning after an incoherent rambling press interview in which he said (amongst other things) that Northern Ireland has got a great deal as they have freedom of movement. I’m assuming he was pissed.

He is clearly an idiot and a serial liar but will it do him any damage with the kind of people who vote Tory?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110

100General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Fri Nov 08 2019, 15:29

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:Boris has gone viral this morning after an incoherent rambling press interview in which he said (amongst other things) that Northern Ireland has got a great deal as they have freedom of movement. I’m assuming he was pissed.

He is clearly an idiot and a serial liar but will it do him any damage with the kind of people who vote Tory?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110
Probably not but maybe some "undecideds" will see what a f****** dogs dinner he's made of it. Obviously hasn't rehearsed his lines and I can just see Murdoch saying "I gave him one job to do....one f****** job...."

101General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Fri Nov 08 2019, 16:00

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
JC's always on the cadge. You give some, and he wants more. I might send an IOU. Very Happy



David, I was going to call my billionaire friends to fund our campaign – but then I realised I didn't have any! Unlike Boris Johnson and his born to rule brigade, I'm happy to keep it that way.

It's because of you that I can share this breaking news: we've just raised our first million pounds in small donations. This is people-powered politics in action, and it's going to win the election.

A million is huge, but to beat the Tories we're going to need more. If you can spare it, will you chip in again now?

102General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Fri Nov 08 2019, 17:08

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
If donations to political parties were restricted to moderate levels the Tories would be bankrupt.

103General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 10:07

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Did anyone see Nick Robinson absolutely eviscerate Ian Blackhead.

Making a mockery of the SNP and labour position that the NHS is under threat.

104General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 10:46

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Just wondering if we're going to have another rigged vote. I noticed this morning that Carole Cadwallader's TED talk has been removed from Youtube (although after a bit of digging I managed to find it here ) and with the suppression of the Russian investigation report and the report into Facebook's abuse of personal data it's looking increasingly like the fight for democracy is already lost.
I know it wouldn't make any difference to died-in-the-wool lemmings, but if there really is an "undecided" share of the electorate, they should at least have the opportunity to listen to a range of opinions and be protected from out and out lies/fake news.

105General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 12:24

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
But Boris will just tell more and more blatant lies on which he won't be challenged by most of the media. The right wing press will make them headlines and the BBC is too scared to report them as lies.

106General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 12:44

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Anyone who takes carol codswallop seriously can safely be ignored.

107General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 12:44

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Did anyone see Nick Robinson absolutely eviscerate Ian Blackhead.

Making a mockery of the SNP and labour position that the NHS is under threat.

Saw the bit with Robinson questioning the SNP’s record on health, didn’t see the attack on Labour.

108General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 12:45

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Hipster_Nebula wrote:Anyone who takes carol codswallop seriously can safely be ignored.

Because her accusations were proven correct despite the right trying to smear her for two years?

109General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 12:56

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Obviously not Boris who’s the problem here, it’s the journalist for questioning his actions - what a clown ey Hipster.

https://twitter.com/rpdcraddock/status/1193068493635309568?s=21

110General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 13:23

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Touched a nerve?

111General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 13:29

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Yep, the real issue is with the government refusing to publish a report into Russian interfere in our democracy. Rather than attack that your party loyalty blinds you to it, so you attack the journalist who uncovered it instead. Pathetic, and everything wrong with politics at the moment.

112General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 15:13

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@xmiles wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:Boris has gone viral this morning after an incoherent rambling press interview in which he said (amongst other things) that Northern Ireland has got a great deal as they have freedom of movement. I’m assuming he was pissed.

He is clearly an idiot and a serial liar but will it do him any damage with the kind of people who vote Tory?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110
" the kind of people who vote Tory"

What does that mean exactly?

113General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 15:14

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@xmiles wrote:
@gloswhite wrote:A national debt that is at its lowest for 17 years
Be honest, does anyone really believe this?

Well they shouldn't because you are totally wrong! You are confusing annual government borrowing with the national debt. In fact the national debt has nearly doubled after 10 years of Tory management. Look at the graph WL provided!

You should be more careful about what you believe glos. Laughing
Thats just what I think when I read the comments from all you paranoid remainers  Laughing

114General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 15:24

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Cajunboy wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:Boris has gone viral this morning after an incoherent rambling press interview in which he said (amongst other things) that Northern Ireland has got a great deal as they have freedom of movement. I’m assuming he was pissed.

He is clearly an idiot and a serial liar but will it do him any damage with the kind of people who vote Tory?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110
" the kind of people who vote Tory"

What does that mean exactly?

The kind of people who when shown clear proof that Boris lies almost all the time still think it a good idea to vote for him and even more ludicrously think he is a suitable person to be Prime Minister.

115General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 15:28

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@gloswhite wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@gloswhite wrote:A national debt that is at its lowest for 17 years
Be honest, does anyone really believe this?

Well they shouldn't because you are totally wrong! You are confusing annual government borrowing with the national debt. In fact the national debt has nearly doubled after 10 years of Tory management. Look at the graph WL provided!

You should be more careful about what you believe glos. Laughing
Thats just what I think when I read the comments from all you paranoid remainers  Laughing

I think you will find paranoia a more common problem amongst leavers who tend to have much more faith in their prejudices rather than looking at factual evidence.

116General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 16:11

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@xmiles wrote:
@Cajunboy wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:Boris has gone viral this morning after an incoherent rambling press interview in which he said (amongst other things) that Northern Ireland has got a great deal as they have freedom of movement. I’m assuming he was pissed.

He is clearly an idiot and a serial liar but will it do him any damage with the kind of people who vote Tory?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110
" the kind of people who vote Tory"

What does that mean exactly?

The kind of people who when shown clear proof that Boris lies almost all the time still think it a good idea to vote for him and even more ludicrously think he is a suitable person to be Prime Minister.
It's the kind of people who think Corbyn is a suitable person to be Prime Minister that worry me the most.     I do think though that they are both flawed characters in different ways.

117General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 17:09

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Cajunboy wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@Cajunboy wrote:
@xmiles wrote:
@wanderlust wrote:Boris has gone viral this morning after an incoherent rambling press interview in which he said (amongst other things) that Northern Ireland has got a great deal as they have freedom of movement. I’m assuming he was pissed.

He is clearly an idiot and a serial liar but will it do him any damage with the kind of people who vote Tory?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-50344110
" the kind of people who vote Tory"

What does that mean exactly?

The kind of people who when shown clear proof that Boris lies almost all the time still think it a good idea to vote for him and even more ludicrously think he is a suitable person to be Prime Minister.
It's the kind of people who think Corbyn is a suitable person to be Prime Minister that worry me the most.     I do think though that they are both flawed characters in different ways.
Corbyn and Johnson are both dickheads but the issues that face our country in terms of the demise of democracy, the corruption of the electoral process and the influence of private individuals effectively negate the importance of our political leaders. We should be voting on the basis of policies rather than personalities and I'll be voting for anyone who is prepared to tackle these key issues head on rather than sweep them under the carpet or pretend they don't exist in the face of a mountain of evidence.

118General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sat Nov 09 2019, 18:59

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
One’s spent his life campaigning against injustice, the other has profited from that injustice only concerned with his own success.

119General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sun Nov 10 2019, 01:38

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@T.R.O.Y wrote:One’s spent his life campaigning against injustice, the other has profited from that injustice only concerned with his own success.
Corbyn has but he has an agenda which whilst admirable is unsustainable and as a leader he is unelectable. Worst of all he seems to have personal political ambition which means he will never be able to enact the good stuff he campaigns for - he lacks political nous and expediency. If he'd been on the ball he could have forged alliances that would have brought him to power but he has sacrificed delivering his policies for vanity.

120General Election - Page 4 Empty Re: General Election on Sun Nov 10 2019, 13:14

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Need some specifics to justify a ramble like that.

Which alliances are you talking about?
What’s his agenda?
What’s unsustainable?

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