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1Guess the points deduction  Empty Guess the points deduction on Mon Nov 18 2019, 16:13

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
What's everybody thinking on this subject? personally I think it will be 3 points, with a further 3 suspended, hopefully anyway.

2Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Mon Nov 18 2019, 16:55

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
They've had their boot on our neck for so long they're reluctant to take it off. They'll give us the full six as a parting shot.

3Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Mon Nov 18 2019, 19:18

terenceanne

terenceanne
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
There should be no punishment at all IMO...…..its basically the EFL's fault in the first place. But this being BWFC it will be another 12 and certain relegation. I would fancy suing the EFL if that happens.

4Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Mon Nov 18 2019, 21:22

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
i reckon 6 points as well,i've had a FUCK THE EFL t-shirt printed ready.

5Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Tue Nov 19 2019, 00:37

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Two missed games at 6 points each is par for the course. Could well be the full twelve as I can't think of a reason why they would show us any leniency although the rules do allow for submissions of mitigating circumstances and getting f***** over by a cowboy owner is a decent one.

I think if I was involved in outlining the mitigating circumstances to the EFL I'd be playing on the fact that it was their regulations on fit and proper persons that were at least in part responsible for getting us into that situation in the first place - although I'd probably phrase it along the lines of the opportunity they have not to be seen as punishing clubs for third party misdemeanours and to support the survival of their member clubs.

So it depends on the case put forward and anything less than creative will probably see us get the full whack.

6Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Tue Nov 19 2019, 08:00

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
-3

7Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Tue Nov 19 2019, 09:09

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
If we can get another win, or two, under our belts before any more deductions it will soften the blow, slightly, for our players, who will think they're pissing n the wind and wonder if its all worth it.

8Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Tue Nov 19 2019, 13:31

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:If we can get another win, or two, under our belts before any more deductions it will soften the blow, slightly, for our players, who will think they're pissing n the wind and wonder if its all worth it.
Not likely to happen Glos as we are likely to find out before our next match ie anytime now.
As regards motivation, we might lose half the team in January but one of the few upsides to our current situation is that those on loan will continue to try to impress their parent clubs and most of the rest will be trying to get a longer term contract with us.

9Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Tue Nov 19 2019, 13:51

terenceanne

terenceanne
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
EFL are part of the problem....not part of the solution. They should be helping clubs as best they can....not finding reasons to put clubs out of business.
Who exactly is being punished...the prior owners who were if fact BWFC have gone and the culprits of the mess.
The new owners are doing their best to right the ship....the fans have nowt to do with it.
Deliberately putting a club down to a lower division with all the financials that incurs is a plain power trip and worthy of suing the hell out of them IMO.
I am withholding any more comments until we find out what the decision actually is. Maybe common sense will prevail.

10Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Tue Nov 19 2019, 23:16

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:EFL are part of the problem....not part of the solution. They should be helping clubs as best they can....not finding reasons to put clubs out of business.
Who exactly is being punished...the prior owners who were if fact BWFC have gone and the culprits of the mess.
The new owners are doing their best to right the ship....the fans have nowt to do with it.
Deliberately putting a club down to a lower division with all the financials that incurs is a plain power trip and worthy of suing the hell out of them IMO.
I am withholding any more comments until we find out what the decision actually is. Maybe common sense will prevail.
I couldn’t agree more with this Terence. Smile

11Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Wed Nov 20 2019, 13:12

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Will we find out today? The meeting was ages ago.

12Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Wed Nov 20 2019, 13:43

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Will we find out today? The meeting was ages ago.
Iles saying not, apparently could be another few weeks.

13Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Wed Nov 20 2019, 14:01

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Will we find out today? The meeting was ages ago.
Iles saying not, apparently could be another few weeks.
Ridiculous.
Effectively we'll just have to plough on and try to get enough points to cover us if the worst case scenario (12 pts) occurs i.e. make a 24 point gain over the likes of Wimbledon. Tough, tough ask.

14Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Wed Nov 20 2019, 14:08

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
The absolute worst case scenario imo would be to impose a 12 point penalty for the start of NEXT season. I realise it's pessimistic of me but I feel we will get relegated this term regardless simply because of the horrific way we started the season. I'm not blaming anyone currently at BWFC for that but the fact is we're still a long way back with a threadbare squad and while our current form is encouraging the embargo would appear to make it well nigh impossible for us to put together a full strength squad this season which will cost us especially at Christmas and after.

15Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 18:17

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
Just in from Marc Iles, 5 points deduction suspended, and a fine.

16Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 18:20

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
BREAKING NEWS: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  have been handed a suspended points penalty by the EFL, as revealed by Mike Keegan of the Daily Mail.
He states:
”Bolton Wanderers will not immediately be docked points for failing to fulfil fixtures, Sportsmail can reveal.
The League One side will be handed a five-point penalty – but crucially the punishment will be suspended, in what will be viewed as a major boost for the club.
In news that will go down well in Bolton, but perhaps less so at EFL headquarters, it is understood that an independent panel has agreed that they will be docked five points but that penalty will be suspended.
Bolton, who will remain 12 points from safety, will also be fined – with a portion of that part of the punishment also suspended.”
Having feared the worst, it seems like Wanderers now have a real shot at staying in League One.

17Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 18:22

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I wonder what are the terms of the suspension?

18Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 18:35

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I wonder what are the terms of the suspension?
Both penalties are suspended for 18 months and will not be activated as long as the Club is not subject to a further misconduct charge for non-fulfilment of fixtures in that timeframe.

19Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 18:44

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
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20Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 19:20

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Not what I expected. I can live with this.

21Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 19:34

Jack Russell

Jack Russell
David Lee
David Lee
Common sense prevails, it was a long wait and now we can stay in this league, turn up for the rest of the season and back the team we will be ok 👍 COYWM ⚽⚽⚽ 😃

22Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 19:56

wessy

wessy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Best result of the season. Onwards and upwards

23Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 20:25

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Result!

24Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Thu Nov 21 2019, 23:08

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Can you imagine if the EFL appeals against the decision?

I know some clubs want to nail us to the wall - but this was an independent panel, so if they appeal it wouldn't look good - not that the EFL seems particularly concerned about their image.

25Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Fri Nov 22 2019, 08:33

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Some good luck for a change! You can bet that some teams are League 1 will not be happy about this and will kick up a fuss but balls to them, we are staying up  Very Happy

26Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Fri Nov 22 2019, 10:12

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
EFL are appealing the decision.

27Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Fri Nov 22 2019, 11:03

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:EFL are appealing the decision.

Bastards! But I am not surprised.

28Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Fri Nov 22 2019, 11:10

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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29Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Fri Nov 22 2019, 12:43

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
FUCK THE EFL  Mad

30Guess the points deduction  Empty Re: Guess the points deduction on Fri Nov 22 2019, 13:05

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:FUCK THE EFL  Mad
Seconded, that transvestite who heads the EFL couldn't fucking wait to kick Bury out, seems she wants to inflict maximum damage on clubs that have suffered from piss poor owners.

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