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Is veganism a "philosophical belief"?

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1Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:32 pm

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
So this bloke is suing his former employers for unfair dismissal under the Equality Act - suggesting that he was sacked for his beliefs, specifically that he is a vegan. Usually such cases are brought where someone has been discriminated against on the basis of their religion, so it raises the question whether veganism is a religion, a political perspective, a lifestyle choice or all the above.
Ironically, the former employers in question are the League Against Cruel Sports although to be fair their raison d'etre is to prevent e.g. fox hunting and hare coursing - but there is an obvious link.
Personally I think he's got a case, but for different reasons i.e. he was sacked for telling the truth about the organisation's investments to his work colleagues which isn't a sackable offence.

2Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:23 pm

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Yes folks - veganism is a religion  according to the judge.

The ruling has nowt to do with the employment tribunal though as it has to decide whether or not the guy was sacked for being a vegan or not - which he wasn't. He was sacked for sharing sensitive company information - although I'd be surprised if that info wasn't already in the public domain.

Vegetarianism to be the next "philosophical belief" Boncey?

3Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Sat Jan 04, 2020 2:08 am

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I have a strained relationship with some of my vegan friends. It's becoming dangerously cultish, and they often view veggies like Brexiteers view remainers.
Neither are a religion. It's simply a life choice. 
And the guy was quite right to expose the hypocrisy of his company's investments.

4Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:24 am

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@boltonbonce wrote:I have a strained relationship with some of my vegan friends. It's becoming dangerously cultish, and they often view veggies like Brexiteers view remainers.
Neither are a religion. It's simply a life choice. 
And the guy was quite right to expose the hypocrisy of his company's investments.
:clap:

5Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:23 am

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@okocha wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:
And the guy was quite right to expose the hypocrisy of his company's investments.
:clap:
Point I was making in the first place was that he probably has a case, but not on the basis of being sacked for being a vegan - he was sacked because he spilled the beans.

6Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:30 am

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:
@okocha wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:
And the guy was quite right to expose the hypocrisy of his company's investments.
:clap:
Point I was making in the first place was that he probably has a case, but not on the basis of being sacked for being a vegan - he was sacked because he spilled the beans.
I hope they were beans! But he exposed them, and was sacked. Still unfair dismissal though.

7Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:54 pm

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Didn't this chap say he wouldn't use public transport in case they killed any insects or birds?   :rofl:

8Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:02 am

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
I wonder if he refuses to use any medicine or medical procedures that have been tested on animals.

9Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:15 am

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He would have to i think xmiles, it does seem very over the top. Fair enough not wanting to eat or wear any animal products but that is just ridiculous. How he gets through the day is a mystery to me

10Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:04 am

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:He would have to i think xmiles, it does seem very over the top. Fair enough not wanting to eat or wear any animal products but that is just ridiculous. How he gets through the day is a mystery to me
I was discussing this with my salad at lunch. The lettuce pissed itself laughing, much to the disgust of the tomato, who wanted to talk Brexit.

11Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:32 am

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Just to clarify. A real Vegan wouldnt darken the doors of a Greggs Pasties shop.

12Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:13 am

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
WHAT !!!???  Not even for a veggie sausage roll ?  Very Happy

13Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:23 am

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@gloswhite wrote:WHAT !!!???  Not even for a veggie sausage roll ?  Very Happy
The ones next to the steak bake ? They want fumigating.

14Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:08 pm

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@sunlight wrote:Just to clarify. A real Vegan wouldnt darken the doors of a Greggs Pasties shop.
It's a fair point that predominantly Greggs support the meat industry and are cashing in on veganism, however not all vegans are politically motivated - many are vegans for religious, dietary or social reasons - and all vegans face a limited choice of food options in town centres, especially kids that know nothing about cookery or putting together a DIY meal from the grocers. It ain't exactly easy to soak and boil aduki beans or fry up some smoked tofu in the shopping mall.

15Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? Empty Re: Is veganism a "philosophical belief"? on Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:31 pm

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
A real Vegan wouldnt go in KFC or burger king or Macdonalds either.

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