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1Press vs Royals Empty Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 10:11

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Relentless UK press ignore mental health mindfulness (that, ironically, Harry and his brother have been promoting passionately!)

Meghan and Harry will not be pursued by the paparazzi in Canada as much or as callously as here in the UK. They will be able to have some personal space to breathe and live more peacefully with their son.

Only they know all the factors that have influenced their choice, but clearly Diana's experience will have weighed heavily on Harry.

Meghan's heartfelt admission that she has struggled badly with motherhood and being a newly-wed has fallen on deaf, uncompassionate ears. 

Taking on a media which is only interested in sensational headlines and finding fault can only ever end badly for the victims of press power.

2Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 12:35

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Good luck to them. They'll thrive outside the confines of that dysfunctional mess.

3Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 15:33

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I don't understand what the fuss is about.

4Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 15:44

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:I don't understand what the fuss is about.
Neither do I. However, the phone-in shows are doing great business. As a republican, I'm not that interested.

5Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 16:41

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
It's pretty clear to see that she's pulling all the strings.

Won't be long before their marriage is on the rocks.

6Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 17:18

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
It's a big worry for all of us, hope we survive.

7Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 18:31

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:It's pretty clear to see that she's pulling all the strings.

Won't be long before their marriage is on the rocks.
She seems like a nice enough young woman. Better than Camilla, the old trout with a face like a bag of spanners.
I feel sorry for Charlie boy. Poor bloke. I've high hopes that one day he might learn to dress appropriate to the century in which he lives. I'm not holding my breath.

8Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 19:02

Guest


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@karlypants wrote:It's pretty clear to see that she's pulling all the strings.

Won't be long before their marriage is on the rocks.

You haven’t got a clue who’s pulling the strings other than what the tabloids tell you, so shut up.

9Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 19:50

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:
@karlypants wrote:It's pretty clear to see that she's pulling all the strings.

Won't be long before their marriage is on the rocks.

You haven’t got a clue who’s pulling the strings other than what the tabloids tell you, so shut up.

Aww...has mummy reduced the amount of milk shes been feeding you lately? Laughing

10Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 20:07

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:I've high hopes that one day he might learn to dress appropriate to the century in which he lives. I'm not holding my breath.

When did you join the fashion police?

11Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 20:13

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Prince Philip has been seen late at night, carrying a rolled up carpet with an arm hanging out of it, with one of his servants, who also had a can of petrol.

12Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Thu Jan 09 2020, 20:28

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:I've high hopes that one day he might learn to dress appropriate to the century in which he lives. I'm not holding my breath.

When did you join the fashion police?
I'm a fashion icon. How I present myself to the world says everything about me. From head to toe, I project style. Don't lecture me on fashion.
Everyone knows. Why is it that you don't? Knowing nothing is wisdom itself and yet you think to sit with the nothingness. Nothing could be further from the truth you seek.
Yes, it is possible to extinguish the things that can sabotage us, but not without wonder on our side.
Where there is stagnation, self-actualization cannot thrive. Without sharing, one cannot exist. Illusion is the antithesis of self-actualization.
Mind you, I could be wrong.

13Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 00:53

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Guest
@karlypants wrote:
T.R.O.Y wrote:
@karlypants wrote:It's pretty clear to see that she's pulling all the strings.

Won't be long before their marriage is on the rocks.

You haven’t got a clue who’s pulling the strings other than what the tabloids tell you, so shut up.

Aww...has mummy reduced the amount of milk shes been feeding you lately? Laughing

What inside knowledge do you have which tells you she pulls the strings?

If you can’t answer that then please, just shut up.

14Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 17:46

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:
@karlypants wrote:
T.R.O.Y wrote:
@karlypants wrote:It's pretty clear to see that she's pulling all the strings.

Won't be long before their marriage is on the rocks.

You haven’t got a clue who’s pulling the strings other than what the tabloids tell you, so shut up.

Aww...has mummy reduced the amount of milk shes been feeding you lately? Laughing

What inside knowledge do you have which tells you she pulls the strings?

If you can’t answer that then please, just shut up.
It is you who needs to shut up you piece of shit.

Stop following me around on here trying to attract attention for yourself you weirdo!

15Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 20:06

Guest


Guest
so zero inside knowledge and you’ll shut up.

Good.

16Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 20:09

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
karly doesn't need facts. He just relies on ignorance and prejudice. Smile

17Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 20:17

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:so zero inside knowledge and you’ll shut up.

Good.

I never said I had inside info so go fuck yourserlf you obnoxious twat. ::FU::

18Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 20:23

Guest


Guest
Look, this has escalated - but what I’m trying to do is get you to think about the fact you haven’t got a clue what’s going on behind closed doors (and neither do the Tabloids) so claiming she’s pulling the strings is unfair of you, to pull out of royal duties and become self sufficient sounds like a reasonable decision of them to me.

On an aside, watching the Mail and particularly Piers Morgan meltdown over this has been particularly enjoyable.

19Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 20:47

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The fate of his mother must have left scars that will never heal. We'd do well to remember what he's been through, and wish them both well, as they try to ensure a happier future, unencumbered by the millstone of an outmoded, irrelevant, degenerate, monarchy.
I'm sure William will play the game, and dress up in his sailor suit when the need arises, but I'm hoping this is the beginning of the end.

20Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 20:56

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Guest
I’m with you Bonce, outdated dribble. Normally I‘m happy to not care a jot about the Royals, but the tabloid attack on Megan Markle stinks of a vendetta.

21Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 21:02

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
T.R.O.Y wrote:I’m with you Bonce, outdated dribble. Normally I‘m happy to not care a jot about the Royals, but the tabloid attack on Megan Markle stinks of a vendetta.
I've seen some right tosh on social media, including calls for Harry to be shot as a traitor for bringing black blood into the monarchy.
Brexit and MM have certainly allowed a few rocks to be upturned, allowing their slimy inhabitants to crawl forth.

22Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Fri Jan 10 2020, 23:24

Sluffy

Sluffy
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At the end of the day we have a 'constitutional monarchy' which basically means the Queen and her family are nothing more than figureheads, they have no real power at all.

Whilst all they are doing is playing a role, then there really isn't a problem, it's when they 'collide' with the real world when things go wrong for them - such as Princess Di not being in that bubble and popping it to escape (James Hewitt, Dodi Fayed and that married doctor for instance) and more recently Prince Andrew and his mate the sex fiend (and that car crash TV interview).

Nobody begrudges Harry and Megan wanting to do the best for themselves and their family but it is how they've attempted to do it that stinks (because they live in that bubble and can't relate to the real world). They don't want to do the 'work' of a royal but won't give up the title - or the money, homes, privileges, lifelong police protection, the private jets, sports cars, exotic months long holidays, etc - indeed they've even tried to 'trade mark' their title, to obviously make a killing of having it linked and logoed to everything - for a hefty price of course!

Apparently Harry feels side-lined from the family but obviously he was always going to be - he is after all the 'spare' and not the 'heir'.

Charles is the next inline and it wouldn't surprise me that he defers it to Willian, whose children are inline after him.

Seems to me the Harry and Megs intend to set up a 'rival court' to make a fortune from the American and foreign markets for themselves - and all sorts of political nightmares that may well set up for us - just imagine if they turned up as the (heavily paid) guests of Iran denouncing America for that recent assassination for instance?

If they want to go and no longer be a royal, then I don't think anyone would have a problem with that (he's inherited millions from his mother and great grandmothers wills) but to seemingly exploit his position for personal gain - whilst being paid from the Civil List and Duchy of Cornwall to the tunes of around £25m per year - and become a political maverick on the world stage is simply taking the biscuit.

As for something TROY said above about the press having no inside information - don't be too sure about that -

The Sun 'broke' the story first (7th January) thus forcing the 'Stepping back' announcement, so clearly they did know what was going on behind the Palace gates!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10693487/prince-harry-meghan-move-to-canada/

PS, as for whose idea all this is, do people really think that Harry was the brains behind it all?

I don't.

23Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 11:30

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
After the acrimony and nasty personal hostility created by Brexit, by the press and via social media, somehow the country needs to return to a more compassionate, tolerant outlook in which others' feelings and welfare are given precedence. 

You'd think that the threat of annihilation courtesy of the world's warring super-powers or by the prospect of climatic extinction would shock us into re-assessing what makes life worth living......and, as Richard Curtis simplistically wrote, it's love actually. Governments have to lead us. The signs are not good.

24Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 11:54

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@okocha wrote:After the acrimony and nasty personal hostility created by Brexit, by the press and via social media, somehow the country needs to return to a more compassionate, tolerant outlook in which others' feelings and welfare are given precedence. 

You'd think that the threat of annihilation courtesy of the world's warring super-powers or by the prospect of climatic extinction would shock us into re-assessing what makes life worth living......and, as Richard Curtis simplistically wrote, it's love actually. Governments have to lead us. The signs are not good.
I think it's a bit naive to assume that those in power and those who influence governments will do anything other than seek personal advantage right down to the wire and beyond, even when the world is falling down around their ears and there's no turning back. Do you think the billionaires give a monkey's about ordinary people? Not if their track record is anything to go by.

The elephant in the room is overpopulation. If humanity is to survive into the next century the only solution is to curtail breeding which means 1 child per woman- regardless of the number of partners she may have - for at least for one generation. Massive financial and social impact that nobody is preparing for, but at least it has a chance of reversing climate change and resource depletion.

25Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 12:22

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
I think your solution for over-population is both dangerous and totally impractical WL.

In many western countries births are below replacement levels already. The areas where populations are still booming are mainly in Africa (19 of the top 20 countries with the highest growth rates) and I have no idea how you would enforce your draconian proposal. Even if you could you would end up with two further problems: gender imbalance as there would be far more live male births due to selective abortion; and too few young people supporting too many elderly people.

26Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 13:04

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:I think your solution for over-population is both dangerous and totally impractical WL.

In many western countries births are below replacement levels already. The areas where populations are still booming are mainly in Africa (19 of the top 20 countries with the highest growth rates) and I have no idea how you would enforce your draconian proposal. Even if you could you would end up with two further problems: gender imbalance as there would be far more live male births due to selective abortion; and too few young people supporting too many elderly people.
I'm not saying it's possible, but it is necessary as there are simply too many people for this planet to sustain if the current growth rate continues.
The Chinese experiment showed many of the flaws in their proposal - but it did succeed inasmuch that without it there would already be more than a billion more consumers than there are today.
That was draconian and enforced - and it seems to me that any solution would have to be draconian and enforced. Not good, but better than the inevitable extinction we are lurching towards.

27Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 13:24

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The royal family is finished unless price nob  head (Charles) abdicates and let's a truly inspirational couple like wills and Kate takeover.

No one will put up with queen Camilla. Also Charles is far too wrapped up in politics and will not be able to keep his big gob shut.

As for Harry. Off you pop, give back your titles and the public money you've taken and do not live in houses renovated with the public purse.

Thank you for your service in the military though. And obviously the money your family bring in to this country.

28Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 13:53

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
William and Kate inspirational? I like a good laugh.

29Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 14:15

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@wanderlust wrote:
I think it's a bit naive to assume that those in power and those who influence governments will do anything other than seek personal advantage right down to the wire 
I said governments should lead but that the signs were not promising,,,,,no assumptions made!

30Press vs Royals Empty Re: Press vs Royals on Sat Jan 11 2020, 19:33

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
She is a puppeteer he is fucked.

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