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361How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 07:57

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Perhaps Boris can explain what happened to the promised 400,000 bits of PPE from Turkey - none of which was of any use. Or will it just be more lies and cover up?

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uk-turkey-ppe-health-ministry-no-files-fiasco

Does anyone believe this government will hold an honest inquiry into the covid scandal?

362How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 09:58

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Question for TROY, xmiles & Okocha....

Do you think the government should reduce the 2m social distancing rule?

363How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 10:20

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Seems to be working okay in France? I won’t criticise them if they do - i haven’t looked too closely at it but given the economic implications and divide in approach among other countries reducing it seems to make sense.

Whatever they do it needs to be clearly communicated, the ambiguity isn’t helping anyone.

364How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 10:52

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@Natasha Whittam wrote:Question for TROY, xmiles & Okocha....

Do you think the government should reduce the 2m social distancing rule?


Yes. The WHO recommends a distance of 1 metre and many countries have adopted this without seeing an increase in infection. The risk seems manageable and the potential benefits in terms of getting more children back to school and more businesses open are enormous.

365How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 11:55

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Dick Turpin springs to mind. 'Your money or your life'?

366How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 12:45

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@gloswhite wrote:Dick Turpin springs to mind. 'Your money or your life'?

I assume you are referring to government plans to allow companies to charge travellers £140 each to avoid the 14 day self quarantine requirement. Sounds like robbery to me.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53116372

367How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 13:10

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@gloswhite wrote:Dick Turpin springs to mind. 'Your money or your life'?
It's an amusing observation Glos but it's bang on - save the economy balanced against the risk of increased death toll. The figures to date suggest the government have got neither right but at least they've finally made a decision as to which way to go. Probably change it again in a couple of weeks though Smile

368How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sat Jun 20 2020, 13:15

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
smiles wrote:...doing anything for two minutes sounds like too much hard work for someone as lazy as him.
With all the "erms" and "ers" Boris could probably stretch out one sentence to 2 minutes TBH.

NZ PM was damned impressive though. I know it's a PR stunt but it was brilliant and unusually these days, based on positive performance rather than snide negative inferences about the opposition.

369How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Jun 21 2020, 14:31

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Theresa Villiers sacked from the Intelligence Committee after refusing to follow the Tory party whip in a vote to allow chlorinated chicken to be imported from the USA. Story here.
Encouraging to know that at least one Tory MP has principles.

370How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Jun 21 2020, 16:11

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
No wonder she had to go. Corrupt scum like Jenrick are of course acceptable though.

371How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Jun 21 2020, 17:06

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I'm a little concerned at what Liz Truss is getting up to. I believe she introduced, or at least went along with, the changes that would allow the dreaded chlorinated chicken in.

372How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Jun 21 2020, 21:18

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Never thought much of Truss as a politician, a yes woman with little substance from what I’ve seen. Again speaks volumes that the most important criteria for cabinet members is blind loyalty to the Cumming’s version of Brexit.

373How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Jun 21 2020, 22:11

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
have to agree with that view.

374How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Sun Jun 21 2020, 23:32

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@gloswhite wrote:I'm a little concerned at what Liz Truss is getting up to. I believe she introduced, or at least went along with, the changes that would allow the dreaded chlorinated chicken in.
I may not be the only one (understatement of the year) thinking that it is the Tory party line to usher through this law which will permit the import of chlorinated chicken in order to pave the way for a deal with Dumpy? Why else was the party whip involved in the removal of Villiers from what I mistakenly thought was an independent Parliamentary Committee?  

Isn't chlorinated chicken what people voted the Tories in for? Smile

I swear we were told 3 years ago that a trade deal with America would be done "within weeks" of the EU referendum but that may have just been a dream.

375How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 08:15

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Just another example of this government grovelling to America. Clearly chlorinated chicken is on the way. So much for taking back control.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-53132168

376How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 08:24

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
My current favourite example of how "taking back control" works is the loss of 260 jobs in Gateshead now that passports are going to be produced in Poland by a Franco-Dutch company.

And the ungrateful brexit fans are not even happy. Not because of the job losses but because they are the wrong colour blue apparently. How typically small minded of them.

377How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 09:11

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:And the ungrateful brexit fans are not even happy. Not because of the job losses but because they are the wrong colour blue apparently. How typically small minded of them.

You are the master of the sweeping statement.

378How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 10:20

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
From the 1st of December 2018 to the 30th of November 2019 Conservative MP Helen Whatley claimed £174,772.22 in expenses. This is the same Helen Whatley who rejected plans to backdate a £5000 student nurses grant because she doesn’t believe they provide a service.

379How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 11:32

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

You are the master of the sweeping statement.

Thanks. Smile

380How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 11:44

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@okocha wrote:From the 1st of December 2018 to the 30th of November 2019 Conservative MP Helen Whatley claimed £174,772.22 in expenses. This is the same Helen Whatley who rejected plans to backdate a £5000 student nurses grant because she doesn’t believe they provide a service.

You need to reference your source.

381How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 11:48

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
That is very easy.

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/news/student-nurses-not-deemed-providing-servicemp/

You do know how google works I assume Nat.

382How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 11:56

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
This is a forum, I expect to read opinions written by members.

383How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 12:01

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
So why ask okocha to reference his source? Did you not believe him?

384How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 23:21

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:This is a forum, I expect to read opinions written by members.
I am so incredibly tempted to write "in my experience, it only gets you banned" 

so I won't but I'm hoping we are all mature enough to understand that having only one experience, there really should be no limits to comedy, or it's scope. You have to laugh occasionally, don't you?

Yes we have no mananas
So get your mananas today

Cool

PS Sluffy: please don't ban me for quoting Kevin Ayers

385How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Mon Jun 22 2020, 23:58

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@wanderlust wrote:
@Natasha Whittam wrote:This is a forum, I expect to read opinions written by members.
I am so incredibly tempted to write "in my experience, it only gets you banned" 

so I won't but I'm hoping we are all mature enough to understand that having only one experience, there really should be no limits to comedy, or it's scope. You have to laugh occasionally, don't you?

Yes we have no mananas
So get your mananas today

Cool

PS Sluffy: please don't ban me for quoting Kevin Ayers

Have you been on the sherry tonight?

I've no idea what you are talking about?

As for comedy though - beware!

Comedy is of the day, it doesn't necessary stand the test of time or social change.

Tbh I find some of the things you've said or posted on here as crude, vulgar and tasteless - but you clearly said/posted them as they being 'funny' to your sense of humour.

I found Bernard Manning exceedingly funny back in the day and couldn't understand the 'alternative' comedy that took his place with the likes of Ben Elton, Harry Enfield and Paul Whitehouse which killed UK comedy stone dead for decades imo.

Neither genre survives now as taste have changed again and moved on.

I didn't know who Kevin Ayres was and assume he must have sung a version of 'we have no bananas' or something - but whatever it is doesn't seem funny to me and feels somehow borderline racist particularly in light of what has happened in the last few weeks.

I'll leave it up due to my ignorance and assume it's not unless informed otherwise.

Suggest you pack in posting for tonight and sleep it off and you can always self edit tomorrow yourself if you feel you've crossed the line, in the cold light of day.

(PS - you were banned for abuse, not your opinions - you still can't seem to grasp/are in denial about that fact).

386How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Jun 23 2020, 07:51

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
You can say what you like about Ben Elton but I don't know why you think Harry Enfield "killed UK comedy stone dead for decades". He was genuinely funny and original imo. Smile

387How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Tue Jun 23 2020, 09:26

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Paul Whitehouse at his best

388How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Jun 24 2020, 11:29

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
The Financial Times today says ministers will now begin a campaign to persuade people that it is safe to go out again. Chancellor Rishi Sunak said he could not wait to get back to the pub - even though he does not drink!
How about that for blindly cheerleading for his boss in a gamble that risks endangering us! Party concerns before public concerns again! 
Hard to trust the Cabinet's purpose, integrity and honesty when they utter statements that shoot  themselves in the foot.


(Well, Nat, you did say you wanted sources and opinions and you know how I strive to satisfy your ladyship's every desire)

389How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Jun 24 2020, 11:45

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Lots of people don't drink but enjoy the pub atmosphere.

390How is the Tory government doing? - Page 13 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? on Wed Jun 24 2020, 11:50

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I rarely get to the pub as we have kids (the little bastards ruining my life  Very Happy) but after a few drinks who is going to bother with even a 1metre rule?

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