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31Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Wed Feb 12 2020, 15:37

boltonbonce

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Was just thinking about the upper tiers, could they close say the west and north upper and leave the east upper open and move anyone to there? Would everyone fit in one stand? Looking at the west and north upper when i go to games it isn't packed but i can't see how many are in the east upper.

Boncey would you do that if that was an option? I know you are in the west upper but it would at least still be an upper tier.
Filled in a survey sent out by the ST last night. They're hoping it might help the club make a final decision.
I'll sit anywhere if pushed, but the club need to be made aware of the ire of some supporters. One of the ST questions was about accepting little or no refreshments on sale, if it meant keeping the stand open.
I'd certainly be fine with that. I only buy coffee, but I don't need to. It's a football match, not a picnic.

32Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Wed Feb 12 2020, 15:47

Sluffy

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Was just thinking about the upper tiers, could they close say the west and north upper and leave the east upper open and move anyone to there? Would everyone fit in one stand? Looking at the west and north upper when i go to games it isn't packed but i can't see how many are in the east upper.

Boncey would you do that if that was an option? I know you are in the west upper but it would at least still be an upper tier.
Filled in a survey sent out by the ST last night. They're hoping it might help the club make a final decision.
I'll sit anywhere if pushed, but the club need to be made aware of the ire of some supporters. One of the ST questions was about accepting little or no refreshments on sale, if it meant keeping the stand open.
I'd certainly be fine with that. I only buy coffee, but I don't need to. It's a football match, not a picnic.

How did the ST know you sat in the upper tiers, or even that you had a Season Ticket?

If the ST is sending a questionnaire out to people who may not even go to the games then how meaningful can their survey be?

..dunno..

33Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Wed Feb 12 2020, 16:11

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The survey was to all ST members and i filled one in as well. It was asking where you sat and if you have a season ticket and your opinion on closing the top tiers. 

If it helps get the general feelings of fans across then where's the harm? The first questions are around is you are an existing season ticket holder and if so where and would it affect your decision to buy one for next season.

I do think leaving one upper stand open would be a good compromise but i sit in the lower tiers so doesn't really affect me.

34Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Thu Feb 13 2020, 11:29

Sluffy

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Financial gains from closing, are negligible, and an increase in atmosphere is at best a guess. Closing would be a PR own goal and administrative nightmare and potentially hugely devisive from the potential options presented. Lower tiers wouldnt be immune to some pain...

So I'd be surprised if they were to go ahead and close them next season. Enjoyed the debate though, lots of passion and sense, and nice to see the board opening the doors to listen. Fab to see
@TheJackDearden
back home and on the mic too!





Another at the meeting confirming what was said -



35Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Thu Feb 13 2020, 11:41

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
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This is good news. I'd considered streaking across the pitch in protest, and still have that option if needs be.
I'd wear slippers of course. My feet are delicate. I hope they bear my possible protest in mind.

36Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Thu Feb 13 2020, 12:08

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
If there is no financial implications then let people sit where they want i say.

37Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Mon Feb 17 2020, 12:22

karlypants

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38Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Mon Feb 17 2020, 12:26

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Upper Tiers To Remain Open At The University of Bolton Stadium

Bolton Wanderers Football Club has confirmed that the upper tiers of the University of Bolton Stadium will remain open following a consultation meeting with season ticket holders.

For several seasons a lot of debate has taken place among supporters regarding the potential closure or partial closure of the upper tiers.

Following the takeover of Bolton Wanderers by Football Ventures (Whites) Limited, the new owners vowed to consult with season ticket holders so that an informed decision could be made.

That meeting was held on Wednesday 12 February and was well-attended by season ticket holders who passionately communicated their thoughts.

From the consultation, and the feedback the club received from supporters who were unable to attend, the Board concluded that the all upper tiers at the University of Bolton Stadium will remain open for league games; however, they will reserve the right to close them if necessary for selected cup fixtures.

There will be no plans for the foreseeable future to change this position.

Emma Beaugeard, the CEO of Bolton Wanderers, said: “I want to thank everybody who contacted the club with their thoughts and ideas and especially to all those who attended the consultation meeting.

“The emotion and loyal support to Bolton Wanderers was palpable and moving, reminding us just how privileged we are to be part of this great club’s present and future.

“For any major decisions, such as these, we will always endeavour to consult with those who will be affected.”

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39Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Mon Feb 17 2020, 12:52

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
cheers

40Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Mon Feb 17 2020, 12:59

Ten Bobsworth


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Not waiting for the result of the ST survey then nor even mentioning it? Should we read anything into that?

If 1,000 folk responded to the ST survey, does it imply that there's still some support for it and still quite a few pennies that haven't dropped yet?

41Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Wed Feb 19 2020, 10:19

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Why Bolton Wanderers were right to keep the top tiers open

The responsibility for generating a better atmosphere at the UniBol rests in the hands of 11 players on the pitch and a few in the dugout, not the couple of thousand high up in the stands.

Closing the upper tiers next season felt like it would have been a defeatist, conciliatory move. Wanderers’ focus should be solely on filling those empty seats – something which is infinitely easier to do when the team is getting results on the pitch.

Bolton look almost certain to be playing fourth tier football next season. And that stings the pride of a group of supporters with fresh memories of European adventures and a Premier League heyday.

In this current situation the club is a hard sell. Asking people to turn up every other week to watch a long walk to relegation requires a product people are at least curious to see. Right now, Bolton are struggling to deliver.

Four of the last five games at home have ended in defeat. Keith Hill insists he is making progress but a team which has been assembled and re-assembled at least twice this season is battling with paper-thin levels of confidence. Even the manager’s own relationship with the fanbase is showing signs of strain.

It is little wonder, then, that the atmosphere inside the stadium has often felt a little hollow of late.

Hill’s immediate task is to redress that balance, to find a level of consistency between now and May to convince people that next year will be better. It is then for the club’s owners to find a price point on the 2020/21 season tickets which ensures the regulars come back.

At this point in time it would have been folly to tell 2,000 people in the upper tiers that they had to move – presumably to the spare seats among existing lower tier fans.

The club’s chief executive, Emma Beaugeard, claimed last week that the decision would not be a financial one but the equation seems simple: Would potential the loss of season ticket revenue, and goodwill, be offset by the money saved on stewarding, cleaning and catering?

Considering prices for the upper tiers this season were £299 in the East and West Stand, it appears a fairly easy question to answer.

Whether the upper tiers are closed, partially closed or open, the mood of the fans will reflect what they are being served up on the patch of grass in front of them. It does not always hang on victory – as we saw earlier this season when the Junior Whites were cheered to the hilt – but winning games certainly helps, especially when the opposition happens to be Tranmere Rovers.

Wanderers’ supporters have shown remarkable patience in the last few seasons, and the numbers are holding up well. Average attendance at the UniBol is currently 11,480, still way over the average in the club’s 12 campaigns at this level of football, 7,730. Indeed, when Bolton last dropped into the fourth tier under Phil Neal in 1987 the average gate at Burnden Park was just 4,851.

To coin the old quote from Field of Dreams, ‘if you build it, they will come.’ Fans had issues with the direct football played under Phil Parkinson in 2016/17 en route to promotion and yet when the team got on a roll, or had promotion in their sights, crowds north of 20,000 were achieved.

Football Ventures arrived with a promise that they would look into the possibility of closing the upper tiers, and they did just that. All affected supporters were invited to give their input to a meeting held last week and they were left in no doubt how some long-standing supporters felt.

It was a big decision and one which has brought a surprisingly mixed reaction among the Bolton supporters. But the owners will find there are plenty more of those to come.

Whether in a one-tiered stadium, a two-tiered stadium or a park pitch, the core of Wanderers fans will turn out next season. Attracting bigger numbers takes realistic pricing and a winning team that can make sure both lower and upper levels of the UniBol are enjoying their football again.

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42Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Thu Feb 20 2020, 12:48

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We'll have to see what level of support we get next season to see if it causes an issue i suppose. If the crowds stay the same it should be ok but if it drops by a few thousand then the ground will look very empty.
Glad for the likes of Boncey that he can stay in his seat.

43Hands off my seat. - Page 2 Empty Re: Hands off my seat. on Thu Feb 20 2020, 13:01

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:We'll have to see what level of support we get next season to see if it causes an issue i suppose. If the crowds stay the same it should be ok but if it drops by a few thousand then the ground will look very empty.
Glad for the likes of Boncey that he can stay in his seat.
I'm well pleased, but would have relocated if pushed. Got a great view next to the press box, and with Marc Iles just over my right shoulder, a great chance of earwigging.

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