So imagine how thrilled I was to discover that the two of them had joined together to form the Sustainability in Sport Foundation in 2012.
It hasn't managed to do very much yet but at least, in their own separate ways, they have both been trying. Forest Green Rovers has only lost £13.5m so far and Salford City £5.6m.
In fairness, Salford hasn't been going as long and FGR wouldn't have lost quite so much if Ken Anderson had come up with that million quid when he said he would. 'You just can't trust some people', said Dale.