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151Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:07

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:

Thank you for pointing out my slight typo mistake.

I have now corrected it.
No problem. Thought it didn't look right.

152Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:14

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Said all I need to Sluffy if you don’t get it, that’s not my problem. I’m not going to keep repeating myself when it’s clear to all.

153Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:23

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@boltonbonce wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:

Thank you for pointing out my slight typo mistake.

I have now corrected it.
No problem. Thought it didn't look right.

You knew it wasn't right and was clearly a mistake on my part - probably due once again to my word blindness / dyslexia I have.

I often miss the word 'not' out of a sentence for some inexplicable reason unknown to even myself - which completely changes the meaning to the opposite of what I intended to say - similarly in this case I missed out the prefix word 'anti'.

It was abundantly clear from the links I posted to the gentleman that he is clearly an active anti-racist.

154Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:29

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Yes, it was a mistake, which I pointed out to allow you to correct it. My bad.

155Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:34

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@T.R.O.Y. wrote:Said all I need to Sluffy if you don’t get it, that’s not my problem. I’m not going to keep repeating myself when it’s clear to all.

There's only you who who seems to have had a problem with what I said???

I even asked you to clarify what I'd said that you had some issue with so I could explain things more clearly but you chose to argue on instead.

So it clearly is YOUR issue and your continued choice to manufacture arguments with me over such is YOUR problem.

This really needs to stop.

156Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:39

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@boltonbonce wrote:Yes, it was a mistake, which I pointed out to allow you to correct it. My bad.

I thanked you for pointing it out and have explained how and why it happened - why has that seemed to have upset you?

I apologise if that is the case as there was clearly no intent on my part to do so.

157Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 20 2020, 14:49

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:

I thanked you for pointing it out and have explained how and why it happened - why has that seemed to have upset you?

I apologise if that is the case as there was clearly no intent on my part to do so.
I'm not upset. It seems we've misinterpreted each others posts. Probably my fault. Apologies.

158Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Tue Jun 23 2020, 05:00

Keegan

Keegan
Moderator
Moderator
Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Fb_img10
An equal opportunity looter being arrested.

https://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

159Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 14:34

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Always thought Tony Livesey was a bit of a twat but he got my respect after I listened to this.

160Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 16:28

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@wanderlust wrote:Always thought Tony Livesey was a bit of a twat but he got my respect after I listened to this.
Very impressive, I didn't know he had that in him.

I don't think it could have been put better.

161Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 18:04

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
All lives matter. Please re title this thread as it offends me

162Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 18:10

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Is that meant to be funny?

163Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 18:12

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I would like it to be renamed 'Welsh Lives Matter'. Our coal and water resources were taken, and more importantly, people have rustled our better looking sheep, bastards.

164Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 18:43

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:Is that meant to be funny?

No?

165Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 23:07

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Syphilis matters.
Literally.

166Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 23:12

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
@wanderlust wrote:Syphilis matters.
Literally.
Nowadays it only seems to matter if you have it.
haven't heard of syph, or the clap for years

167Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Wed Jun 24 2020, 23:15

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@gloswhite wrote:
Nowadays it only seems to matter if you have it.
haven't heard of syph, or the clap for years
That's because you are a well-behaved man Glos Smile

168Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Thu Jun 25 2020, 00:29

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Boggersbelief wrote:All lives matter. Please re title this thread as it offends me
Correct.

169Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Thu Jun 25 2020, 00:43

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Boggersbelief wrote:All lives matter. Please re title this thread as it offends me
But according to Tony Livesey, in the current world black lives don't matter as much as white lives so saying "black lives matter" isn't saying white lives don't matter - it's saying black lives matter as much as white lives. Which is fair enough isn't it?

170Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Thu Jun 25 2020, 13:35

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Apparently saying white lives matter is racist. Go ahead and explain that one

171Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Thu Jun 25 2020, 14:17

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

172Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Thu Jun 25 2020, 18:09

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Who are we talking about exactly?

173Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Fri Jun 26 2020, 13:36

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

174Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Fri Jun 26 2020, 22:36

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Always worth listening to the great Ken Burns.

175Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 27 2020, 02:38

Keegan

Keegan
Moderator
Moderator
@Boggersbelief wrote:Apparently saying white lives matter is racist. Go ahead and explain that one
Hi Boggers. Quick question; do you believe my life matters Question

https://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk

176Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 27 2020, 11:23

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@boltonbonce wrote:
Bonce, this is even better (well, more amusing) on the same subject


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5b_-TZwQ0I&feature=emb_rel_pause





Always worth listening to the great Ken Burns.

177Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 27 2020, 12:06

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Great stuff. And with a Colbert bonus. Very Happy

178Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Sat Jun 27 2020, 12:12

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@boltonbonce wrote:Great stuff. And with a Colbert bonus. Very Happy
I knew you'd like that bit! Didn't see it coming....

Both videos very thought-provoking.

179Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Thu Jul 02 2020, 14:56

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
Hmmm, looks as though things are getting messy!

Just the headlines of what seems to have been happening in the last few days -

Viewers urge other football pundits to ditch their Black Lives Matter badges after Patrice Evra and Jamie Redknapp refused to wear one on Sky Sports and Matt Le Tissier hit out at the group's beliefs on defunding police and anti-capitalism
Sky Sports pundits opted not to wear their Black Lives Matter badges on air
It comes after the UK arm of organisation was criticised for political activism
Fans were quick to point out players and broadcasters should have researched
Premier League players are also beginning to distance themselves from BLM UK

Over the last few days, the official BLM UK Twitter account has caused controversy by calling for the overthrow of capitalism, reductions in police funding and an end to free trade with Israel.

...former Wolves midfielder Karl Henry had also slammed the organisation on Twitter.

Black Lives Matter want to bring to an end racial injustice and police brutality, but in recent weeks have called for a cut in money to law enforcement to create a 'people's budget'.

The UK arm of the group has said it wants to defund the police completely and abolish capitalism and has pledged support for Palestine amid Israel's plans to annex the West Bank.

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Black Lives Matter: Group wants to abolish the police, smash capitalism and close all prisons
Black Lives Matter UK is the semi-official British offshoot of its American counterpart and has been the face of the UK's protests over George Floyd's death and racial equailty.

But while hundreds of thousands of people have donated millions to their cause, many will be unaware on many of the group's more extreme aims.

The UK branch, just like the American arm of the movement, has a number of far-Left aims listed on its wesbite.

They include the Marxist 'commitment to dismantle capitalism'.

Elsewhere the group says it wants to use money it has raised to develop and deliver strategies 'for the abolition of the police'.

The official Twitter account of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) UK movement has also been caught up in an antisemitism row.

It tweeted in support of Palestine over plans by Israel to annex its West Bank settlements.

The verified account claimed mainstream British politics were being 'gagged of the right to critique Zionism,' before Tweeting that the movement 'loudly and clearly stands beside our Palestinian comrades' and adding in block capitals 'FREE PALESTINE'.

It sparked anger among the Jewish community, with some describing the idea of politicians being 'gagged' over their criticism of Zionism as being an 'antisemitic trope'.

The Campaign Against Antisemitism (CAA) said: 'BLM should aspire to be a movement against racism that unifies people and achieves lasting change, not a movement that spreads hatred and achieves lasting division.

'You cannot fight prejudice with prejudice.'

The group has been active online since mid-2016.

In December that year it endorsed the complete closure of all Britain's prisons and detention centres, saying they were 'inhumane, overcrowded and unsafe'.

The group has also expressed its opposition on Twitter to government initiatives including reform of the benefits system via the introduction of Universal Credit and the licensing of fracking.

It has attacked everyone from Oxfam ('big charities are nothing more than colonisers for the 21st century') to Sir David Attenborough.

The group accused an episode of his 2018 TV series Dynasties, on chimpanzees, of being racist because the BBC naturalist complained that habitat destruction due to overpopulation was threatening the species with extinction.

'Human activities can obviously compete with wildlife,' the anonymous BLM Tweeter opined. 'But 'too many people' always has a silent 'black'.'


More here -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8478173/Fans-social-media-droves-Sky-Sports-pundits-ditch-Black-Lives-Matter-badges.html


Exclusive: BBC rules that staff should not wear Black Lives Matter badges on air

Number of high-profile organisations are forced to distance themselves from Black Lives Matter as they say organisation has been "hijacked"

The BBC has decided its presenters and guests should not wear Black Lives Matter badges as the campaign was accused of “hijacking” George Floyd’s death for political reasons.

Bosses at the corporation have ruled that “visual symbols of support” for Black Lives Matter should not be worn on screen, senior sources told The Telegraph.

More here -

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/01/bbc-tells-staff-not-wear-black-lives-matters-badges-on-air/


'OWN AGENDAS' Crystal Palace become first Prem club to publicly distance themselves from Black Lives Matter group amid controversy

“We stand proudly alongside members of the BAME community, our players and employees, and behind the ideals and ethos of 'black lives matter'.

“However, we would like to make clear that we do not endorse any pressure group or body that carries the same term in its name, and we strongly believe that organisations should not use this important force for change and positivity to push their own political agendas.

“We want to be part of a world that is fair, inclusive and open to all.


Prem chiefs have agreed they will not ditch the Black Lives Matter badge on club shirts - because it was designed by Troy Deeney and his partner.

All top flight shirts have been adorned with a BLM badge designed by Watford ace Deeney and his partner.

These will be worn for the duration of the resumed season.

That remains the Prem policy with no plans to change the stance despite the growing controversy.

The League still believes it is right to have gestures in support of anti-discrimination measures.

And one of the key reasons is that the badge itself was designed by Deeney and his partner and is NOT a product of the BLM movement.

League chiefs remain adamant that it was specifically designed for Prem players to wear and is a clear symbol of a commitment to fight racism rather than being the logo of a political organisation.

More here -

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/12010366/crystal-palace-distance-themselves-blm/

180Black Lives Matter - Page 6 Empty Re: Black Lives Matter on Thu Jul 02 2020, 15:04

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Yet again, what started out as a good and fair campaign, has been hijacked by the idiots who want to go too far, and in doing so are actually pushing people away.

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