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391Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sat Sep 12 2020, 15:31

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Natasha Whittam wrote:They should be naming and shaming.

BOLTON WANDERER Clubber who went to Ibiza then failed to isolate and even threw a party when he got home ‘sparked Covid spike in Bolton’


A CLUBBER who went to Ibiza, failed to isolate on his return and then threw a house party, is feared to have sparked a Covid spike in Bolton.

Layton Migas, 23, went to the Spanish island for his summer holidays, returning on August 20.

Under the Government rules, he should have quarantined for a two-week period at his home in the Lancashire town.

But instead the Covidiot left his home on several occasions to go to the shops, and even threw a house party attended by his pals.

Migas was fined £1,000 after Gtr Manchester Police learned of the breaches and tracked him down a few days later.

Today Migas confirmed he had been fined after spending six weeks in Ibiza before returning home.

His Instagram account shows him lying in a pool with three girls and another clip shows him having champagne poured down a girl into his mouth on a party boat.

Migas, who also partied with EastEnders star Dean Gaffney at another illegal lockdown party in June, moaned: “I’d say I have definitely been scrutinised for being a young person.

“They wouldn’t have known. It’s only the neighbours that have told them.

“There’s loads of people I know who didn’t quarantine.

More here -

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12647489/clubber-went-to-ibiza-sparked-covid-spike-in-bolton/

392Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 16:54

Sluffy

Sluffy
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For Bonce's attention.

I see Warrington's now moved into the top 10 local authorities in England for new cases over the last seven day average per 100,000 population.

I'm sure you're being sensible and your mum too - but just be aware and keep safe mate!

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393Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:02

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Thanks Sluffy. Mum's 90, so she can't really self isolate, but she's close enough to keep an eye on. I've got an eye test next Sunday, and a dental check up a fortnight later in Walkden. What fun. Shocked

394Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:09

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@boltonbonce wrote:Thanks Sluffy. Mum's 90, so she can't really self isolate, but she's close enough to keep an eye on. I've got an eye test next Sunday, and a dental check up a fortnight later in Walkden. What fun. Shocked
Why Walkden?

395Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:14

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Cajunboy wrote:
Why Walkden?
Been with the practice since the 70's, and when they went private, I had the choice of finding an NHS practice, or staying with them as a private patient. I chose to stick with them.
When we moved here in 1989, I again decided I was staying with them. It's only 20 minutes on the motorway, and if you have a good dentist, it's wise to stick with him/her.

396Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:19

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Ah, I just wondered.

I should have gone to my dentist a few months ago, but I've put it off until I've finished my Chemo.

Need the gas central heating serviced but don't want anybody extra in the house..

Still shielding really apart from blood tests, flu jabs and runs out in the car and a picnic.

397Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:24

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Cajunboy wrote:Ah, I just wondered.

I should have gone to my dentist a few months ago, but I've put it off until I've finished my Chemo.

Need the gas central heating serviced but don't want anybody extra in the house..

Still shielding really apart from blood tests, flu jabs and runs out in the car and a picnic.
Stay safe amigo.

398Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:27

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Cheers.

399Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:28

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Cajunboy wrote:Ah, I just wondered.

I should have gone to my dentist a few months ago, but I've put it off until I've finished my Chemo.

Need the gas central heating serviced but don't want anybody extra in the house..

Still shielding really apart from blood tests, flu jabs and runs out in the car and a picnic.
I don't blame you. Not had a picnic in years. Every time I hear the word picnic, Yogi Bear pops into my head. It's uncanny.

400Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:28

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@boltonbonce wrote:Thanks Sluffy. Mum's 90, so she can't really self isolate, but she's close enough to keep an eye on. I've got an eye test next Sunday, and a dental check up a fortnight later in Walkden. What fun. Shocked

The information I put up is really the best I can find it the public domain but even then you have to allow for other things that are not stated (or at least not clearly anyway).

The first thing to note is that there is some time delay between someone thinking they might have symptoms worth checking or have been in the company of someone else who has been tested positive and been notified from Track and Trace to go for a test themselves - so what I'm trying to say is that folk might be already walking around for a week being contagious and not knowing.

Then on top of that, the test results are not instantaneous and the average time it is taking between being tested and being notified is around 3 days - which is ok if people have self isolated but what we've clearly seen examples of - some simply don't!

And if that isn't enough, the rule of thumb seems to be that for every person tested to be positive, there's another couple or so in the community who are infected and either don't know about it or haven't bothered to get a test.

Even after all I've said the changes are very low of actually catching it from anyone, unless you spend considerable time in their company and in an enclosed space - like inside a pub or in the family home with multigenerational family members.

I've told my own brother that his biggest threat of catching it is probably from his kids/grandkids when they visit him - simply because they will come into contact socially with more people and my brother and his wife are basically living a life in solitary confinement.

A hard thing to contemplate and do keeping your loved ones at arms length (or more!), so when you do (and if you can) try to do it outside in the fresh air or if inside, make it a fleeting visit and possibly even wear your mask!

I know you've got to do what you've got to do - and I've not gone to extremes when seeing my daughter yet but as the new cases grow and the weather for meeting outside becomes less pleasant then I guess I'm going to have to do.

Roll on next summer, it can't come soon enough for me.

401Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 17:33

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
We're living in strange times. There was nearly a mass brawl at our local centre last week, when a group of people tried to shop without masks. It all started kicking off, and security got involved. The no maskers were hugely outnumbered, and left the centre, but I can see this happening more frequently as we approach Christmas.

402Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sun Sep 13 2020, 18:24

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@boltonbonce wrote:We're living in strange times. There was nearly a mass brawl at our local centre last week, when a group of people tried to shop without masks. It all started kicking off, and security got involved. The no maskers were hugely outnumbered, and left the centre, but I can see this happening more frequently as we approach Christmas.
At least Dick Turpin wore a mask.

403Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Mon Sep 14 2020, 09:40

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
A friend whatsapped to say she’d had to wait 5 days to get her husband and baby’s Covid test results back - and was told it’s because we don’t have the analysis capacity so they are being sent to Germany and Italy for analysis.

#leaverlemmings kept quiet about that didn’t they?

404Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Mon Sep 14 2020, 09:49

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:We're living in strange times. There was nearly a mass brawl at our local centre last week, when a group of people tried to shop without masks. It all started kicking off, and security got involved. The no maskers were hugely outnumbered, and left the centre, but I can see this happening more frequently as we approach Christmas.
 I wen to our local Home Bargains yesterday for the first time in months and was amazed how many people aren't wearing masks still. The staff on the door don't ask if they have an exemption, they just let them in  Rolling Eyes

405Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Mon Sep 14 2020, 09:58

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:
 I wen to our local Home Bargains yesterday for the first time in months and was amazed how many people aren't wearing masks still. The staff on the door don't ask if they have an exemption, they just let them in  Rolling Eyes
You can’t expect retail staff to act as bouncers though.

406Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Mon Sep 14 2020, 11:03

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Latest figures show one in every ten people getting a coronavirus test receive a positive result – four times higher than the positivity rate just two weeks earlier.

Figures published by the UK government show that between August 28 and September 3, 168 tests were carried out per 100,000 people each day – the equivalent of 3,351 tests a week.

From those tests, 347 new cases of covid-19 were confirmed – a positivity rate of 10.4 per cent.

Across England, 11,809 cases were confirmed that week from 951,141 tests – a positivity rate of just 1.2 per cent.

Chris Green, MP for Bolton West, urged people to follow the rules to lower the spread.

He said: "We are seeing an increase in hospital admissions so we can be certain that there is an increase in covid in the area.

"People have to be responsible, I’m hearing that a very significant number of people aren’t following the rules – it’s very important to keep to the guidelines.

"The government also needs to win the confidence of people so they listen to the current message, if the vast majority of people follow the rules then they will be effective."

Testing had increased from the week before, when the testing rate was 105.2 – meaning 2,099 tests were done.

Between August 21 and August 27, 104 new cases of coronavirus were confirmed – a positivity rate of just under five per cent.

The week prior to that, August 14-20, 2,045 tests were taken, recording 54 new cases for a positivity rate of 2.6 per cent.

Daily data is published for the national testing effort, but lower level testing figures are only available for local authorities on the government's watch list, and are published weekly.

Mr Green has pushed for more information to be made available about testing in Bolton.

He said: "I would like the authorities to explain how confident they are about why these case figures are so high.

"You see a small outbreak or spike in an area and massively ramp up testing – there have been reports that these tests are so sensitive that they can pick up fragments of the dead virus in someone's system and give a false positive.

"We need more information about testing, we need to know why these figures are up."

Source

407Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Mon Sep 14 2020, 12:18

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote: I wen to our local Home Bargains yesterday for the first time in months and was amazed how many people aren't wearing masks still. The staff on the door don't ask if they have an exemption, they just let them in  Rolling Eyes

Once again the government are sitting on the fence, just fooking make it mandatory to wear a mask everywhere outside the home.

408Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Mon Sep 14 2020, 13:18

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

Once again the government are sitting on the fence, just fooking make it mandatory to wear a mask everywhere outside the home.
A relative of mine works in Home Bargains, and anyone not wearing a mask isn't getting served.

409Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Mon Sep 14 2020, 13:23

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:
A relative of mine works in Home Bargains, and anyone not wearing a mask isn't getting served.
 Not in my local branch Boncey, Mrs Pig kept telling me off for looking at people and shaking my head  Very Happy

410Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Tue Sep 15 2020, 08:56

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
The Daily Telegraph readers will be ringing 101 on everyone.

411Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Tue Sep 15 2020, 09:24

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:
 Not in my local branch Boncey, Mrs Pig kept telling me off for looking at people and shaking my head  Very Happy
It must differ branch to branch. There's been a lot of anger when people have been told they're not getting served, but it's made quite plain, so there are no excuses. Can't see what their problem is.

412Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Tue Sep 15 2020, 22:44

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Visited a very nice Quinta in the Douro today for wine tasting and lunch but before we were allowed into the wine museum we had to walk through a box thing that sprayed us to disinfect our clothes head to toe. Cool in every sense.

413Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Tue Sep 15 2020, 22:52

xmiles

xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
While you are there try the port especially the tawny port. Smile

414Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Tue Sep 15 2020, 22:55

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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415Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Tue Sep 15 2020, 22:58

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
To be fair, according to British tradition, you are supposed to get totally slaughtered, start telling everyone that they are your best mate, and then start a fight involving furniture.

416Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Tue Sep 15 2020, 23:00

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
As a Buddhist, I am letting myself down tonight. I cant take things seriously sometimes.

417Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Wed Sep 16 2020, 11:11

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Thornleigh is the latest school in Bolton to close a year class due to a year 9 pupil testing positive for the virus.

I feel it's only a matter of time before my family get it now due to 4 schools in Bolton testing positive for it and god knows how many other schools across the UK testing positive for it also.

418Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Thu Sep 17 2020, 12:02

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I flew back into the UK last night having completed an online form in preparation for quarantine - where I'd been/contact details etc.
Where I'd been is a country with a quarter of the infection rate of the UK - even less than that if you look at the latest figures so I'm being philosophical and viewing quarantine as being for my own safety rather than that of those around me.
Anyhoo, I was absolutely horrified when I arrived at (a largely deserted) Heathrow.

Not a single check.
They didn't discuss the form or give any guidance (as the form said they would)
There was no temperature testing (which happens everywhere in Portugal, even going into a shop)
There were loads of people not masked up.
We saw one official at passport control who simply waved everyone through once we'd done the digi passport machine.
Very few alcohol wash points - not even in the loo.

On the positive side it was the fastest time I have EVER got through Heathrow - 20 minutes from disembarking to outside, via baggage reclaim and passport control.

But it was a f****** joke as far as covid is concerned.

419Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Thu Sep 17 2020, 12:27

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Suppose I should be surprised. I'm not.

420Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 14 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Thu Sep 17 2020, 20:56

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Get tested when you land in Rome and results in half an hour.

Dido Harding the Head of Test and Trace today saying: 'No one was expecting to see such a big rise in demand' for testing?!

Anyone left thinking this government is anything other than incompetent?



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