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31Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:29

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@T.R.O.Y. wrote:I think the point is Sluffy there’s no need to get personal and abuse anyone - clearly you find Lust irritating so ignore him.

Oh and just to put the brakes on your latest spin - I’ve never said reporting spikes in coronavirus among Muslims is racist. You’ve spectacularly missed the point if you genuinely think that - or your deliberately spinning what I’ve said to create an argument.

Oh do jog on.

@T.R.O.Y. wrote:There’s no ‘elephant’ to ignore, he openly blames Muslims for not taking the rules seriously enough In the interview. 

The question is why has he blamed this lockdown on Muslims not taking rules seriously enough without a jot of evidence?

If that isn't implied racism then I don't know what is.

I'm spinning nothing.

We've already done this though, unless you want to go through it all again???

Also I've never been personal or abusive to Wanderlust (or anyone else for that matter) either unless you class 'nutjob' to be or commented on what he's already said about himself on the public forum/s?



32Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:34

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
I explained my point to you multiple times, it hasn’t changed. I’ve copy and pasted it for you again below. But I don’t believe you’ve failed to understand it as you seem to be pretending:

Fact: spike in virus data among Asian communities.

Assumption: caused by Asian communities ignoring rules.

33Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:40

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Sluffy I don't think you should be undermining Lusty in this way.

It's the start of a new season and he is still in the early stages of bringing his body back to the levels he reached last year.

Confidence plays a large part in sport and therefore you should be helping him  to reach his peak, not talking him down in this way.

You should be encouraging Lusty, try to embrace the persona of Jurgen Klopp, feel the love and embrace Lusty as  you help him to reach new heights.

I know you've got it in you.

34Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:44

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Laughing

35Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:46

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:I explained my point to you multiple times, it hasn’t changed. I’ve copy and pasted it for you again below. But I don’t believe you’ve failed to understand it as you seem to be pretending:

Fact: spike in virus data among Asian communities.

Assumption: caused by Asian communities ignoring rules.

You said that afterwards though.

You started off by implying quite clearly that he was being racist.

He wasn't.

He was telling the truth.

Test and Trace proves that.

If you don't want to believe it without seeing it written in stone with your own eyes, then that's up to you.

The reality is that is actually what has/is happening.

You actually even started of with your original post implying it was the governments fault!

The one thing we can say for certain it isn't the government passing on the virus, it is people who are doing that.

Or do you want that written in stone to see with your own eyes too?

36Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:50

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Cajunboy wrote:Sluffy I don't think you should be undermining Lusty in this way.

It's the start of a new season and he is still in the early stages of bringing his body back to the levels he reached last year.

Confidence plays a large part in sport and therefore you should be helping him  to reach his peak, not talking him down in this way.

You should be encouraging Lusty, try to embrace the persona of Jurgen Klopp, feel the love and embrace Lusty as  you help him to reach new heights.

I know you've got it in you.

Hmmm!

Let me answer you this way...

If I were the opposition I'd definitely want him to be the first name picked on their team sheet.

Is that positive enough for you?

37Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:56

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
Genuinely unsure if you believe your own spin or if you’re trying to create an argument.

My points pretty crystal clear, I’m sure you understand it just fine. The data shows the spike but not the reasons for it. Pointing the finger saying Asian communities are ignoring the rules is reckless in my view.

If you are still struggling to understand that, you’re best off just re-reading the thread I don’t have anything else to add to it to be honest and it seems your only remaining argument is to spin my point into something it isn’t and claim I’ve cried racism.

Bit weak.

38Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 15:58

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
@Sluffy wrote:
If I were the opposition I'd definitely want him to be the first name picked on their team sheet.

And you expect us to believe a man of your age would be playing football! PAH!

Very Happy

39Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 16:02

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@Sluffy wrote:

Hmmm!

Let me answer you this way...

If I were the opposition I'd definitely want him to be the first name picked on their team sheet.

Is that positive enough for you?
Your not embracing Jurgen are you?

40Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 16:22

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:Genuinely unsure if you believe your own spin or if you’re trying to create an argument.

My points pretty crystal clear, I’m sure you understand it just fine. The data shows the spike but not the reasons for it. Pointing the finger saying Asian communities are ignoring the rules is reckless in my view.

If you are still struggling to understand that, you’re best off just re-reading the thread I don’t have anything else to add to it to be honest and it seems your only remaining argument is to spin my point into something it isn’t and claim I’ve cried racism.

Bit weak.

Jog on.

I'm spinning nothing, you clearly implied racism and when challenged have back down to say 'he didn't know the facts'.

He clearly did.

I don't see anyone refuting the facts and we all know it would be front and centre in the media if they could to nail him as a racist.

You can bluster all you want about the difference between 'fact' and 'assumption' but even the Muslim community in the north aren't denying how and why the spread has happened.

There's only you in denial and you are so because you enjoy arguing until the cows come home.

41Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 16:30

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
You’ve missed my point completely so it’s no wonder you don’t understand the criticism Whitaker has come in for.

Not sure how you’ve missed it as it’s been very clearly spelt out but as I said reread the thread would be my advice.

Also - why have you started saying ‘jog on’? It’s a bit Danny Dyer isn’t it?

42Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 16:44

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Thank heavens Sluffy and Lusty aren't lovers. Very Happy

43Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 16:48

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:You’ve missed my point completely so it’s no wonder you don’t understand the criticism Whitaker has come in for.

Not sure how you’ve missed it as it’s been very clearly spelt out but as I said reread the thread would be my advice.

Also - why have you started saying ‘jog on’? It’s a bit Danny Dyer isn’t it?

It's politer than other things I could have said.

You really think Whittaker received criticism for making an assumption than being perceived to have been racist?

Honestly and truly?

Jog on!

44Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 16:54

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
The fact you think that’s the question just shows how badly you’ve missed the point.

45Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 17:02

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@T.R.O.Y. wrote:The fact you think that’s the question just shows how badly you’ve missed the point.

I don't care.

No one cares but you!!!

And you try to make out that I'm the one who argues!?

46Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 17:11

T.R.O.Y.


Nicolas Anelka
Nicolas Anelka
You replied to my post on the matter - if you don’t care don’t respond simple as that.

47Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 17:52

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:Thank heavens Sluffy and Lusty aren't lovers. Very Happy
Leave me out of it. Until get the ban option I know my place Smile

48Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 18:55

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
Sluffy, I asked this on post 22, with no response, so i shall ask again,

Out of curiosity, do you have access, of any sort, to PM's between members?

49Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Sun Aug 02 2020, 19:45

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@gloswhite wrote:Sluffy, I asked this on post 22, with no response, so i shall ask again,

Out of curiosity, do you have access, of any sort, to PM's between members?

No, why on earth would we event want to?

50Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 08:15

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:

No, why on earth would we event want to?
 Thank God for that  Laughing

51Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 15:00

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
A pal of mine was convinced forums, etc, have administrators rights to access them. I thought I knew that they, like passwords, were inaccessible. I'll get on to the know-all bastard now. (I love it when I'm right)  Very Happy

52Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 15:08

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Breadman was never convinced. He's still convinced that Sluffy snitched on our proposed bank job.

53Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 17:23

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@gloswhite wrote:A pal of mine was convinced forums, etc, have administrators rights to access them. I thought I knew that they, like passwords, were inaccessible. I'll get on to the know-all bastard now. (I love it when I'm right)  Very Happy

Stop don't do it Glos!

I'm sorry to piss on your chips but it all depends on how the particular forum is 'built', some do indeed have access to private messages - but this one is 'bought off the shelf' so to speak rather than be 'hand built'.

Wanderers Ways and the Burden Aces forum both have/had Administrator rights to view pm's.

I know this as a fact in that I modded BA and the owner Chris Mann used to read pm's and discovered that one of the members (who went on to found the ST!) had set up his own rival forum and pm-ed his mates to get them to jump ship!

Mann, who was still in education at the time immediately banned the bloke, who because I was the one who basically ran the forum on a day to day basis, assumed it was me and waged a 'war' against me from then on, even brought his internet grudge into real life just to try to fuck Nuts up when we first started out!

I took the blame (and the abuse) without saying that I didn't even have banning powers, only Mann had!

I did so because Mann was still a kid basically in my eyes and the ST bloke was clearly a nasty fucker who didn't bother me but probably would upset/bully a youngster.

The irony of all this was that Mann ended up sacking me as a mod for no apparent reason and which came completely out of the blue, which resulted ultimately ended up with Natasha, myself and one or two others setting up Nuts as I no longer wished to stat with the site after being treated like that.

Fwiw I wanted to run Nuts in the most honest way I could from the outset so didn't do the dirty on Burden Aces by poaching their members but by doing it the best we could by asking permission of other forums to advertise there was a new Wanderers forum which only JA606 and Bolton Mad allowed us to do.

The Wanderer forum banned me for asking (I'm still banned from there even now) and Wanders ways never replied.

With hearing nothing from ww I took the liberty of pm-ing two people off there who had been regulars on Burden Aces and who had stopped posting on ww, namely 'George' and Diddles (who had just had a months ban from there!) I didn't even know if they frequented ww to even view the pm's!

The next thing I knew I received a ban from the owner of the site who had accessed and read my private messages - that ban lasted 5 years and I was only allowed back because they must have realised I knew what I was talking about during our Administration period.

That lasted until threats of physical violence and promises of finding out where he lived were made to 'Custard' and I stood up and told them what I thought about such behaviour particularly that Custard was in his seventies/eighties!!!

I was banned again and still am.

My view is that when all said and done we are just an internet footy forum and you are all grown ups - if you want to post here then fine, if you don't like it here go somewhere else.

I'm not paranoid to worry about plots to form rival sites or even usurp me on here (indeed that's been attempted more than once!) but whilst I'm at the helm I'll attempt to steer the site in a honest and fair way to all.

It's all just a way of passing our time anyway, not as though it's important in the scheme of things is it?

54Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 21:28

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
That was a long and detailed response Sluffy, but very interesting. At least I can tell him I was right, sort of.  Very Happy

55Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 22:30

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I used to go on JA606 and the behind enemy lines posted on there from here by Nat were the reason i came to Nuts.

56Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 22:32

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:I used to go on JA606 and the behind enemy lines posted on there from here by Nat were the reason i came to Nuts.

Don't you dare try and blame me.

57Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 22:35

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

Don't you dare try and blame me.
It's true! I bet Sluffy thanks you every day for bringing me here  Laughing

58Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 22:56

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Nat could do one featuring all the league twos reaction to our signings...

59Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 23:03

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:
@Natasha Whittam wrote:

Don't you dare try and blame me.
It's true! I bet Sluffy thanks you every day for bringing me here  Laughing

Hmmm...

I thought it was strange at the time when the Admin of JA606 wished me the best of luck when he found out you, Bonce and Bread had jumped ship to here.

I've asked asked him many times if he would please take you all back, even offered to throw in Wanderlust too but for some reason he's never replied to me ever since?

I'll try again later on...



60Is It Just Me Or..... - Page 2 Empty Re: Is It Just Me Or..... on Mon Aug 03 2020, 23:07

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:

Hmmm...

I thought it was strange at the time when the Admin of JA606 wished me the best of luck when he found out you, Bonce and Bread had jumped ship to here.

I've asked asked him many times if he would please take you all back, even offered to throw in Wanderlust too but for some reason he's never replied to me ever since?

I'll try again later on...



Laughing

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