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1MASKS for Covid Empty MASKS for Covid Sun May 30 2021, 15:32

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
I've been using the the blue disposable ones when I've needed to wear one.

I don't like the look of them and would appreciate if any of you have reusable  washable ones that fit well and that you would recommend.

2MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Sun May 30 2021, 16:04

Sluffy

Sluffy
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I use the reuseable ones, have from the start actually.

Bought myself 6 for £10 from a supermarket that advertised them for sale at cost price.

I've never needed to buy any others since.

Are they a good fit - tbh I don't suppose they are any different from the normal blue ones (when I had my first jab I had to take my mask off and was given one of those to wear to go inside).

What I did find out by accident once was one of my masks ear loops came apart and a simply tied it up again - but in doing so made the loop that bit tighter to my ear and thus inadvertently made the mask a tighter fit.

I guess you have to go with what you believe is best for you whether it be disposable or reuseable.

I once read somewhere that masks followed the 80/20 rule namely they gave protection to others from you of 80% and protection to you from others of 20%.

I don't know how true that is but it sort of makes sense to me in that the masks really are about 'catching' your breath/droplets rather than blockin theirs - simply because the masks aren't clinical and face fitted.

You might want to send a pm to y2johnny who is in the facefit business as he no doubt can give you much better insight that what I have but the bottom line to me (even after having both my jabs) is keep my distance from people as much as I possibly can and stay away from inside settings if at all possible.

I know it is easier said that done so though at times.

Stay safe whatever you decide though.

3MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Sun May 30 2021, 20:13

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
This does me. Wear it round the neck, then pull it up when needed.
MASKS for Covid Img_1511

4MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 16:43

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
So it's supermarket bargain or old football scarf!

I was looking for expertise and knowledge.

5MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 17:03

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@Cajunboy wrote:So it's supermarket bargain or old football scarf!

I was looking for expertise and knowledge.

You're on Nuts mate, what did you expect!!!

Very Happy

6MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 17:54

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Cajunboy wrote:So it's supermarket bargain or old football scarf!

I was looking for expertise and knowledge.
That's not an old scarf. It's a face covering snood. I've got the mask as well.

https://www.bwfcdirect.co.uk/gifts-souvenirs/souvenirs/scarves-and-gloves/

8MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 18:50

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
You have to remember Cajun that these masks are not a fashion statement. I also think those surgical masks are shit for protection.

I use a GVS Eclipse mask which is a half mask respirator made out of rubber. These have filters you can replace.

MASKS for Covid GVS_ELIPSE_HALF_MASK_RESPIRATOR_P3-4_grande

The Mrs uses a black fabric one that has a pocket to add a filter in although she doesn't have one in it. I wouldn't feel confident wearing something like this but she still hasn't caught COVID yet.

Johnny is a good one for advice on masks if he comes on and sees this thread.

9MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 19:47

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
@Sluffy wrote:

You're on Nuts mate, what did you expect!!!

Very Happy
LOL

Fair comment Sluffy.

10MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 19:54

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Thanks everyone, still thinking about what to get.

The more you research, the more you get confused.

11MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 20:04

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:You have to remember Cajun that these masks are not a fashion statement. I also think those surgical masks are shit for protection.

I use a GVS Eclipse mask which is a half mask respirator made out of rubber. These have filters you can replace.

MASKS for Covid GVS_ELIPSE_HALF_MASK_RESPIRATOR_P3-4_grande

The Mrs uses a black fabric one that has a pocket to add a filter in although she doesn't have one in it. I wouldn't feel confident wearing something like this but she still hasn't caught COVID yet.

Johnny is a good one for advice on masks if he comes on and sees this thread.
KP shopping. Very Happy

MASKS for Covid 9k=

12MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 20:14

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
He is in Bolton though.

13MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Mon May 31 2021, 21:33

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Cajunboy wrote:He is in Bolton though.
Safety first with KP. Very Happy

14MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Tue Jun 01 2021, 17:36

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:
@karlypants wrote:You have to remember Cajun that these masks are not a fashion statement. I also think those surgical masks are shit for protection.

I use a GVS Eclipse mask which is a half mask respirator made out of rubber. These have filters you can replace.

MASKS for Covid GVS_ELIPSE_HALF_MASK_RESPIRATOR_P3-4_grande

The Mrs uses a black fabric one that has a pocket to add a filter in although she doesn't have one in it. I wouldn't feel confident wearing something like this but she still hasn't caught COVID yet.

Johnny is a good one for advice on masks if he comes on and sees this thread.
KP shopping. Very Happy

MASKS for Covid 9k=
I did feel like that at first with it on and surgical gloves.

I have stopped washing my beers before drinking them now.  Very Happy



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15MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Tue Jun 01 2021, 17:37

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:
@Cajunboy wrote:He is in Bolton though.
Safety first with KP. Very Happy
I will probably continue to wear my mask in Bolton after the pandemic as you never know what you might catch around here! Very Happy

16MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 10:33

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Blue surgical masks, cloth Face coverings, kn95 and anything with ear loops are classed as a face covering. These are worn to protect others from you, not for your own protection.

Masks like KP has shown (the GVS Elipse) will protect you, but in order for it to protect others from you, you need to keep the exhalation valve covered with a fCe covering over it.

Disposable RPE with little round valves on are the same as the one KP has shown.

Personally, I've been using an adidas one but I've fed a paperclip through the top seem so I can mould it around my nose and stop my glasses steaming up.

The adidas ones are from JD sports

17MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 10:45

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Nice to see you back on here Johnny, we miss you  Very Happy

18MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 10:56

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@y2johnny wrote:Blue surgical masks, cloth Face coverings, kn95 and anything with ear loops are classed as a face covering.  These are worn to protect others from you, not for your own protection.

Masks like KP has shown (the GVS Elipse) will protect you, but in order for it to protect others from you, you need to keep the exhalation valve covered with a fCe covering over it.

Disposable RPE with little round valves on are the same as the one KP has shown.

Personally, I've been using an adidas one but I've fed a paperclip through the top seem so I can mould it around my nose and stop my glasses steaming up.

The adidas ones are from JD sports

Just to add, the masks like KP wears aren't gauranteed to fit and protect you, hence why they need facefittesting. Plus wearing them with facial hair also compromises the seal.

19MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 10:57

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@Norpig wrote:Nice to see you back on here Johnny, we miss you  Very Happy

Miss you more x

20MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 11:36

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Norpig wrote:Nice to see you back on here Johnny, we miss you  Very Happy

It is Norpig and we have missed someone fun to join back in.

Makes a nice change for Johnny to drop in considering all we have had on the forum lately is the usual wankathon. Very Happy

21MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 12:16

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@karlypants wrote:

It is Norpig and we have missed someone fun to join back in.

Makes a nice change for Johnny to drop in considering all we have had on the forum lately is the usual wankathon. Very Happy

Gutted to have missed a wankathon. I've been doing it solo all this time

22MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 12:24

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@y2johnny wrote:

Gutted to have missed a wankathon. I've been doing it solo all this time
:rofl:

23MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 12:24

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
It was live streamed through the portal as well Johnny  Very Happy

24MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 12:27

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Id of needed a webcam with a hell of a zoom.......

25MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 12:28

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Hello Johnny. MASKS for Covid 1f601 

26MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 12:28

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@y2johnny wrote:Id of needed a webcam with a hell of a zoom.......
Laughing

27MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 15:34

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@karlypants wrote:
@Norpig wrote:Nice to see you back on here Johnny, we miss you  Very Happy

It is Norpig and we have missed someone fun to join back in.

Makes a nice change for Johnny to drop in considering all we have had on the forum lately is the usual wankathon. Very Happy

First of all hi johnny, hope you and the family are all safe and well.

But yes Karly I totally agree it is a wankathon on here for most of the time and has been for ages.

Obviously I am the biggest part of it but it isn't by my choosing or desire and I get no satisfaction from it other the to laugh at the main two protagonists these days namely Wanderlust and TROY.

Both have their own agendas which involve for want of a better word 'trolling' me.

Wanderlust clearly has personal issues and they manifest themselves on here as a need to be seen right all the time and seeks popularity from other members on here (presumably because no one takes him serious in his real life anymore?).  

TROY has a long standing internet axe to grind with me going back years.

Both are obsessed with me and hence all the endless wankathons to shoot me down, Wanderlust lying and contriving in his vain and pointless attempts to prove he his right and the rest of the world is wrong and TROY endlessly '"correcting me" which is just his way of masking his historic obsession of me over something that happened years ago and for which he carries an internet grudge to this day.

Clearly both have issues that transcends a random internet footy forum whose only purpose is to talk about the club we all follow.

The solution to all this is easy.

They can ignore my posts, they can disagree but draw a line under it and move on, or they can go and post on another forum.

The question is, why don't they?

Alternatively I can do the same - but can I?

All I do is post the facts to refute the fake news and extremely biased and obsessive views that Wanderlust holds - should I allow his hatred and misinformation to contaminate the site?

Similarly when TROY contrives arguments with me when I know they are factually wrong should I not point that out?

I view Wanderlust's behaviour and Troy's internet grudge not to be normal as such - even for the internet!

Mind (the mental Health Charity) research reveals the following -

How common are mental health problems?

- 1 in 4 people will experience a mental health problem of some kind each year in England .
- 1 in 6 people report experiencing a common mental health problem (like anxiety and depression) in any given week in England.

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/statistics-and-facts-about-mental-health/how-common-are-mental-health-problems/

Is in unreasonable that people who post on here have/had mental health issues?

Maybe folk on here believe I have.

They could even be right as I continue to try to explain the facts to Wanderlust and TROY although it is abundantly clear they don't wish to hear/accept them.

They are more concerned about not being seen to be ever wrong in Wanderlust case and having an obsession to get back at me for something meaningless that happened on an obscure internet forum many years ago!

As I say the the solution to this is easy - if they stopped their respective 'hatred' and 'games' I'd have no reason to shoot them down with the facts - and thus no more wankathons.

Maybe one day we will get back to having a pleasant and fun site again...?

28MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 15:59

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Take your own advise and ignore them then Sluffy.

29MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Fri Jun 04 2021, 17:03

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@Norpig wrote:Take your own advise and ignore them then Sluffy.

Why should I let hatred and prejudice win over truth and honesty?

Here is a poem that might make you understand a bit as to how I view things taken from the Amnesty site - the bit about having a personal responsibility to the site I founded and refuse to let it turn into a shithole of hatred because I haven't the balls to stand up and challenge it.

FIRST THEY CAME
By Martin Niemöller

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me.

"First they came …" is the poetic form of a 1946 post-war confessional prose by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). It is about the cowardice of German intellectuals and certain clergy—including, by his own admission, Niemöller himself—following the Nazis' rise to power and subsequent incremental purging of their chosen targets, group after group. Many variations and adaptations in the spirit of the original have been published in the English language. It deals with themes of persecution, guilt, repentance, and personal responsibility.

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/files/2019-01/First%20They%20Came%20by%20Martin%20Niem%C3%B6ller_0.pdf?l6HOtWW1N8umC_ELxnQI6NpaAYbxRCJj=

This what Pastor Niemoller said after the war -

Niemöller made confession in his speech for the Confessing Church in Frankfurt on 6 January 1946, of which this is a partial translation:[1]

... the people who were put in the camps then were Communists. Who cared about them? We knew it, it was printed in the newspapers. Who raised their voice, maybe the Confessing Church? We thought: Communists, those opponents of religion, those enemies of Christians—"should I be my brother's keeper?"

Then they got rid of the sick, the so-called incurables. I remember a conversation I had with a person who claimed to be a Christian. He said: Perhaps it's right, these incurably sick people just cost the state money, they are just a burden to themselves and to others. Isn't it best for all concerned if they are taken out of the middle [of society]? Only then did the church as such take note.

Then we started talking, until our voices were again silenced in public. Can we say, we aren't guilty/responsible?

The persecution of the Jews, the way we treated the occupied countries, or the things in Greece, in Poland, in Czechoslovakia or in Holland, that were written in the newspapers. … I believe, we Confessing-Church-Christians have every reason to say: mea culpa, mea culpa! We can talk ourselves out of it with the excuse that it would have cost me my head if I had spoken out.

We preferred to keep silent. We are certainly not without guilt/fault, and I ask myself again and again, what would have happened, if in the year 1933 or 1934—there must have been a possibility—14,000 Protestant pastors and all Protestant communities in Germany had defended the truth until their deaths? If we had said back then, it is not right when Hermann Göring simply puts 100,000 Communists in the concentration camps, in order to let them die. I can imagine that perhaps 30,000 to 40,000 Protestant Christians would have had their heads cut off, but I can also imagine that we would have rescued 30–40,000 million [sic] people, because that is what it is costing us now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

Obviously I'm not comparing myself to Niemoller or the two mentalists on here to the Nazi's but I think it is worth someone - me if no one else, to call them out for their fake and distorted views which - let it be said - more than a few on here also like to believe is true.

Most of it simply isn't!!!  

Most of it is simply story's, narrative, make believe but that is what happens when people believe social media and those distorting the facts to their own ends - yes plenty Tory 'friends' have won PPE contracts but has anyone yet shown a single fact that that was because of cronyism - no they haven't - up to now it is all slurs, innuendo and just fairy tales and will remain so until someone, anyone comes up with facts to prove otherwise.

Wanderlust wants to believe the government Covid figures are fake - yet he doesn't even know about the government site that posts them every day and provides various ways of doing so for comparison against each other - and have done for the last year and half almost ffs!!! - he prefers to believe his own hatred fed by other haters on social media and spew his venom on here for others to feed upon - and all the time the simply facts are there available for anyone to see!

Nah folks like Wanderlust and more than a few others would rather shoot me, the messenger, instead because the actual facts are getting in the way of their story they have chosen to believe is a true one.

That's why I do it.

(And it also gives me a great deal  of amusement watching Wanderlust lie and squirm and show his ignorance and abuse - all this to avoid saying he was wrong on a meaningless internet footy forum too!).

30MASKS for Covid Empty Re: MASKS for Covid Sat Jun 05 2021, 10:59

y2johnny


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
@boltonbonce wrote:Hello Johnny. MASKS for Covid 1f601 


Smile

Hey bonce

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