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Wigan 0-0 Bolton EFL Cup (5-4 Penalties)

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wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
James McClean - what a cock!

No idea how we'll go on against the Laxatives on Tuesday but I hope we beat them in fine style.

1 - 3 please.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
WANDERERS have sold nearly 2,500 tickets for their Carabao Cup trip to Wigan Athletic less than 24 hours after they went on sale.

Now sold out and another 700 allocated - so pushing 5k fans going.

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Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
They'll definitely be more Bolton fans than pie eaters tomorrow  Very Happy

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:No idea how we'll go on against the Laxatives on Tuesday
Haha love it! Very Happy

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
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Sluffy

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Nat Lofthouse
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BoltonTillIDie

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Thanks KP!

karlypants

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Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Thanks KP!

No problem. :good:

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Whitesince63


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
How can some not be “bovvered”? I accept the league is most important but surely a good cup run in one of the two “majors” has to be something to enjoy and financially beneficial for the club. To go out so meekly to a second string Wigan side in front of our best travelling support for years is also a bit of a kick in the teeth. I know we have to play fringe players but with other less important cup games to come, surely we could have used them in that. Rest a few, I agree but surely not eight? The fact our destiny lay in the hands of Delfouneso just makes it even worse. A poor performance from the players for sure but also the manager in my opinion. 😠

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:How can some not be “bovvered”? I accept the league is most important but surely a good cup run in one of the two “majors” has to be something to enjoy and financially beneficial for the club. To go out so meekly to a second string Wigan side in front of our best travelling support for years is also a bit of a kick in the teeth. I know we have to play fringe players but with other less important cup games to come, surely we could have used them in that. Rest a few, I agree but surely not eight? The fact our destiny lay in the hands of Delfouneso just makes it even worse. A poor performance from the players for sure but also the manager in my opinion. 😠
We're all bovvered. But after a defeat to an old enemy, we tend to react with disdain.


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Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I really am not that bovvered, it's a Cup game in a tournament we aren't going to win and as with all the cups in the last few years even teams like us play mainly reserves. 

The only sad bit for me is that it was the pie eaters that beat us.

MartinBWFC

MartinBWFC
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I really am not that bovvered, it's a Cup game in a tournament we aren't going to win and as with all the cups in the last few years even teams like us play mainly reserves. 

The only sad bit for me is that it was the pie eaters that beat us.
Technically they didn't, it was 0-0 so drew, but the bigger picture will show we lost on pens, no real shame, batter them in the league, and nobody will remember this game.

Whitesince63


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
Sorry guys but we still have big bills to pay and we need income and the main way we get that is with more games and big crowds. Throwing away the chance of a game against one of the big boys is to me somewhat silly. We know before the season starts what competitions we are to play in so complaining about one of the 3 biggest is just madness. By all means rest certain players but surely not so many and not in front of your biggest away following in years against a local rival we want to beat. Megson did the same thing, funnily enough for the same opposition and look what happened to him. If we lose to Cambridge on Saturday with our full team, what benefit was resting players last night?

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Penalty shootouts are always something of a lottery but I must say I was surprised that Nathan missed his. I would have banked on him scoring but I'm not blaming the lad because it can happen to anyone. In general terms the game wasn't great to watch but I was again pleased to see the team spirit and character being shown by all our players. Ian Evatt is definitely moulding them into a genuine team that plays for each other and while defeat to the pie eaters is always painful it wasn't down to any lack of effort commitment or even skill. I can see plenty of good things going on and I'm happy we didn't concede a goal because that has been a sore spot for us in recent years. All in all I'd say we're very much an improving work in progress.

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Sorry guys but we still have big bills to pay and we need income and the main way we get that is with more games and big crowds. Throwing away the chance of a game against one of the big boys is to me somewhat silly. We know before the season starts what competitions we are to play in so complaining about one of the 3 biggest is just madness. By all means rest certain players but surely not so many and not in front of your biggest away following in years against a local rival we want to beat. Megson did the same thing, funnily enough for the same opposition and look what happened to him. If we lose to Cambridge on Saturday with our full team, what benefit was resting players last night?
I understand your sentiment but I don't think I agree with it because the League Cup simply doesn't have the cachet or generate the revenue it used to. In truth the FA Cup is where clubs at our level have a genuine chance to generate both money and for want of a better word 'buzz' while the League Cup has become something of an afterthought that a lot of fans are simply not interested in today. Personally I wish we'd won but I don't think an early exit from this competition is going to be catastrophic to our finances or confidence and I believe Evatt and the staff made the right decision. The League itself is far more important and in truth I would much prefer he concentrate on that for now.

Hip Priest

Hip Priest
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I'm not bothered either. If McClean had scored the winner in a 1-0 defeat I'd have been really upset. But the fact that he was shit, they were shit, we were shit, the match was shit and defeat came merely on penalties after a sterile 0-0 draw in a meaningless cup game protected me from the unrequited misery I would have endured if we had lost to them in front of pie-eaters in an important league game there.
I was more annoyed by the stupid tactics employed by the police after the match which made the likelihood of trouble much greater than if they'd just let people go straight home.

One other major negative was some idiot a couple of rows behind me who thought the time was ripe to revive that lovely old chestnut from the late 70's, "I'd rather be a Paki than a Pie." How lovely.

Whitesince63


Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:
I understand your sentiment but I don't think I agree with it because the League Cup simply doesn't have the cachet or generate the revenue it used to. In truth the FA Cup is where clubs at our level have a genuine chance to generate both money and for want of a better word 'buzz' while the League Cup has become something of an afterthought that a lot of fans are simply not interested in today. Personally I wish we'd won but I don't think an early exit from this competition is going to be catastrophic to our finances or confidence and I believe Evatt and the staff made the right decision. The League itself is far more important and in truth I would much prefer he concentrate on that for now.

Peter, I fully accept that the Carabao Cup doesn’t have the appeal of the FA Cup but how can you say fans aren’t interested in it today? We just sold out all our allocated tickets for the Wigan game and took the biggest away following for years. Had we won the game we’d be hosting Sunderland in front of another massive crowd, probably approaching 15 to 20k when you consider how many Sunderland themselves will bring. That’s big additional revenue FV have missed out on and if we then beat Sunderland we’d be looking towards another Wembley final. Are you telling me fans wouldn’t be interested in that? Of course the leagues the priority but you’re very wrong about nobody being interested. You might not be but the 4700 were and so were the vast majority who didn’t attend.

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
I wouldn't want our confidence to be shaken by the sort of defeats that Newport and West Brom suffered last night....always a danger when meeting top-tier opposition.

wessy

wessy
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf
Yes we rested 8 players and it shows how much cup games have been devalued, no replays equals loss of revenue ? no extra time, not be long before we just flip a coin if the Premier guys have there way.

The FA cup is no better teams at all levels resting players until the last 8. No respect whatsoever for the fans or the cup competitions, makes me laugh when the say the magic of the FA cup, my arse. In reality giant killings just don't exist its the minnow v someones reserves.

For the record Wigan made 7 changes and won so no bleating from the pie eaters, we made several changes against Barnsley not a word Why because we won. Its the modern game (sadly)

luckyPeterpiper

luckyPeterpiper
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
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Peter, I fully accept that the Carabao Cup doesn’t have the appeal of the FA Cup but how can you say fans aren’t interested in it today? We just sold out all our allocated tickets for the Wigan game and took the biggest away following for years. Had we won the game we’d be hosting Sunderland in front of another massive crowd, probably approaching 15 to 20k when you consider how many Sunderland themselves will bring. That’s big additional revenue FV have missed out on and if we then beat Sunderland we’d be looking towards another Wembley final. Are you telling me fans wouldn’t be interested in that? Of course the leagues the priority but you’re very wrong about nobody being interested. You might not be but the 4700 were and so were the vast majority who didn’t attend.
I think a part ofthe crowd size is due to the fact we haven't been able to attend matches for so long and partly down to it being a 'local derby' with a team close to our own. If you remember pre-Covid the League Cup was one the majority of fans didn't bother going to for the most part. I think this season will see every club having larger crowds than normal till Christmas but I suspect we'll start to see the numbers drop again in the New Year.

If we'd been playing say Grimsby or Scarborough I doubt we'd have seen anywhere near as many of our fans travelling and frankly I don't think a game against Sunderland is quite the draw you seem to think it is. Football is still an overly expensive way of entertaining yourself and a lot of people have been hit hard in the pocket over the last eighteen months or so which (imo) adds up to don't expect attendance to be high for every or even most games.

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