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Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town

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1Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 08:50

karlypants

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2Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 08:59

Norpig

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Thought we were playing Shrewsbury?  Laughing

3Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 12:35

wanderlust

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Shrewsbury fans forum mainly chatting about parking at the Unibol but a few interesting points made:

1. Bolton have only won 1 at home so far this season
2. last five games they have won one more than us, however they have scored 18 goals and we have score 7 ! they let in a few goals though as they nearly average 2 goals a game
3. Bit of a blast from the past looking at the Bolton Squad. Some ex town loanees from a long time ago in Gilks and Tutte, and Alex John Baptiste who feels like he has been playing in the football league for my entire life.
Captained by Antoni Sarcevic too - who seems to have done well everywhere apart from Shrewsbury. Can't recall what happened there - was it the oft quoted 'missing home' ?
Again, just like Wycombe the squad looks a million miles away from the Shrewsbury one. Strong, deep and expensively assembled bunch.


Point 1: true
Point 2: also true
Point 3. "expensively assembled"???

FWIW I guess we'll win this one Smile

4Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 13:09

karlypants

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Thought we were playing Shrewsbury?  Laughing

Whoops! Very Happy

5Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 13:30

Natasha Whittam

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It's not easy to type and give a hand job at the same time.

6Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 13:37

Norpig

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:It's not easy to type and give a hand job at the same time.
Speaking from experience i take it?

7Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 13:55

Natasha Whittam

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I'd need hands the size of shovels to give Eric a hand job.

8Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Fri Oct 01 2021, 13:58

karlypants

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lol!

9Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 14:02

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10Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 14:39

Whitesince63


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I’d personally have had Gilks on the bench for either Delf or Izzy but obviously IE is happy with that risk.

11Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 14:42

karlypants

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Radio Nuts is now live!

12Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 15:49

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First half videos

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13Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 18:27

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14Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 19:04

Natasha Whittam

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Enjoyed the game. We were decent first half, not so decent second half. Defence was solid, Santos MotM, but when are our strikers going to score again?

Regarding the penalty, I've been saying for years if keepers just stood in the middle of the goal and waited for the chip/shot down the middle they'd save far more than choosing a side to dive to.

And it seems Evans has started this no goalkeeper on the bench nonsense again. With 7 subs why take a risk? Foolish.

15Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 19:16

Sluffy

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Maybe I'm giving our keeper a bit more credit than he deserves but if I were taking that penalty I would have hit it exactly in the same place that he did!

Just before the kick, Dixon was springing about, left and right, up and down, so I would have thought he would definitely commit one way or the other, so if I just gently slot it in the middle of the goal I would score!

If Dixon did intend to get that result then he fooled me as well as the penalty taker!

Fair play to him if he outfoxed us but maybe there was no intent and the penalty taker and I just made it easy for him to save!

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16Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 19:22

Natasha Whittam

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Maybe I'm giving our keeper a bit more credit than he deserves but if I were taking that penalty I would have hit it exactly in the same place that he did!

Just before the kick, Dixon was springing about, left and right, up and down, so I would have thought he would definitely commit one way or the other, so if I just gently slot it in the middle of the goal I would score!

If Dixon did intend to get that result then he fooled me as well as the penalty taker!

Fair play to him if he outfoxed us but maybe there was no intent and the penalty taker and I just made it easy for him to save!

Very Happy

I'm not saying it was planned, perhaps it was a fluke, but you see so many penalties go down the middle I'd just stand there and wait to catch it.

17Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 19:38

wanderlust

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This division is tight and today showed that every team can put up a fight.
Doncaster won.
Portsmouth 4 Sunderland 0 FFS!
Oxford did us a favour by scoring in the 93rd minute.
And then there was Shrews comeback, albeit assisted by an appallling decision by the ref to overrule the linesman's offside flag, book Santos and give them the FK right on the edge of our box from which they scored.
Squeaky at the end but we hung on.
Thought Baka was a proper handful and after Doyler had run himself into the ground chasing all over the park, Baka gave us an out ball when we were under pressure. He doesn't start because he's a proper target man and Evatt likes us to keep possession and pass it sideways for an eternity - but Baka offers an alternative. If we ever need a goal in the last 5 minutes I'd like to see Doyler playing off him. I remain unimpressed with Kacha.

18Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 20:38

terenceanne

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Two individual pieces of brilliance for the goals......otherwise barely any chances created again. That's my concern with the way we are playing right now. Stats at half time said zero clear cut chances.....don't know what the count was at the end. This is why Doyle is not scoring in my mind. 
Still overall we look to be a decent team - lucky for three points today IMO though.
Agree with "Wanderlust" above - not sure about Kacha - seems a little lightweight but has some decent touches in him.

19Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 22:57

Biggie

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Interesting comments here guys. 
To say we are lucky to get three points seems harsh as it's still better than we have played in years, even if not quite as fluid as in recent matches.

Kacha is one of those players who I always want to see impress me, but so far has not done much. I actually think the high quality of the rest of the team is carrying him. He also pulls out of so many tackles.
Baka looks fast and dangerous. Would be good to see more of him, he makes a lot of runs early, so it would be nice if we moved the ball forward quicker once or twice to take advantage of him. I love the possession stuff but when a team is expecting it and they start to press high, we should exploit the opportunity.

Goalkeeper should always stay in the middle. Percentage wise they will save more. Simple as that. 
They will almost certainly save any that go in the middle. But they will also have time to react to any poorly struck attempts to either side.

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20Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sat Oct 02 2021, 23:02

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I would also point out that strangely. I would also shoot down the middle. Only 2 to 3 percent of goalkeepers choose to not dive.  So that means, whichever way you shoot there is a 49% chance the keeper will dive the right way if you aim for the corner. 

Goalkeeper should always stay in the middle. Percentage wise they will save more. Simple as that. 
They will almost certainly save any that go in the middle. But they will also have time to react to any poorly struck attempts to either side.

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21Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sun Oct 03 2021, 00:15

wanderlust

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Guy on Quest said the stats show only 5% of pens go down the middle apparently.

22Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sun Oct 03 2021, 11:51

Biggie

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Really? 
The thing is, more than 10% of them miss when they aim for the corner. So of the penalties that actually hit the target the biggest percentage is in the middle part of the goal. If we are talking about exactly in the middle then yes maybe it's 5 percent. But if we are talking about the middle 3rd of the goal, if you divided the goal into equal thirds, your best chance to save is by not moving.
There are a few interesting studies on this.

Here is one
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23Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sun Oct 03 2021, 18:24

wanderlust

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Blimey that's detailed - more like spot the ball! I think that the guy was just suggesting that 5% aim down the middle as opposed to picking a side.

24Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Sun Oct 03 2021, 23:46

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:And then there was Shrews comeback, albeit assisted by an appalling decision by the ref to overrule the linesman's offside flag, book Santos and give them the FK right on the edge of our box from which they scored.



[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Confusion swirled around the stadium as assistant referee Bradley Hall flagged for offside from a Shrewsbury through ball. Ricardo Santos picked the ball up on the edge of his own box to restart play but the ref blew for handball, having over-ruled his assistant’s call.

Replays later showed the referee had got it spot on, as Lloyd Isgrove had produced the final touch on the ball.

:facepalm:

25Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Mon Oct 04 2021, 00:06

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26Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Mon Oct 04 2021, 00:53

wanderlust

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I do hope that the club appeal the referee's appalling decision. He knew full well that Santos had been deceived by a difference of  opinion between the ref and his own assistant - and that difference only came to light after the ref belatedly made his decision i.e. after Santos touched the ball with his hand - so why did he book Santos for a mistake that the officials caused? Letter of the law over common sense and fair play?

Karlypants aka Iles continued by saying.. wrote:But if you ever wanted an example of how the rules overshadow common sense, booking Santos for picking the ball up and trying to restart play that  was it.

:facepalm:

27Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Mon Oct 04 2021, 01:44

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:I do hope that the club appeal the referee's appalling decision. He knew full well that Santos had been deceived by a difference of  opinion between the ref and his own assistant - and that difference only came to light after the ref belatedly made his decision i.e. after Santos touched the ball with his hand - so why did he book Santos for a mistake that the officials caused? Letter of the law over common sense and fair play?

Karlypants aka Iles continued by saying.. wrote:But if you ever wanted an example of how the rules overshadow common sense, booking Santos for picking the ball up and trying to restart play that  was it.

:facepalm:

Eh???

You play to the whistle, it's as simple as that!

There will be no appeal.

The ref probably had no idea why Santos picked up the ball, because he had certainly not stopped play - and he was correct not to have done so too.

Iles got it completely wrong in his comments at the time.

You got it wrong too with your 'appalling' decision comment later still.

I just found it funny Iles trying to defend his tweet both on Twitter and later in the article he wrote - and there certainly wasn't that much 'confusion in the stadium' as he claims, people who went were posting on TW's match thread that Isgrove had played the player on by being the last player to touch the ball.

Now you are making me laugh with your attempt to try and to cover up your mistake as well!

Two birds with one stone, eh!

:rofl:

28Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town  Empty Re: Bolton 2-1 Shrewsbury Town Mon Oct 04 2021, 08:14

Norpig

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Well i was there and i was confused as were many others! Yes the ball did come off Issy so wasn't offside but the linesman did have his flag up which is what confused Santos.

What really pissed me off about that goal was that it cost me money, i had bets on us winning by 2 and by 3 or more  Mad

As for the game 2 great finishes but we took our foot of the pedal second half when we could and should have finished them off with at least one more goal. They then score at the end and make it a nervy finish.

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