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31Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton Mon Oct 11 2021, 14:19

Norpig

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Its strange as we either score 4 or 5 or none at all so when we do score 4 or 5 whats different? Its the same players so they must be getting it right in games against Ipswich for example.

We do seem to have a tendency to want to walk it in the net instead of shooting more which is frustrating.

32Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton Mon Oct 11 2021, 15:07

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:Its strange as we either score 4 or 5 or none at all so when we do score 4 or 5 whats different? Its the same players so they must be getting it right in games against Ipswich for example.

We do seem to have a tendency to want to walk it in the net instead of shooting more which is frustrating.

Maybe I'm just imagining this but haven't most of our goals come from shots from outside the penalty area?

I remember Allardyce once telling players NOT to shoot from outside the box as percentage wise it was a bad return on being successful.

I think our problem is simply that we don't have the speed in our game to get the ball in to dangerous areas before their defence can get back and defend.

Seems we are ok in open games but when teams park the bus we simply don't have the speed or guile to unlock their defence and thus why we seem to score (or it seems like that to me?) by shots from outside the box.

I'm also baffled that considering we have so many tall men in our side that we don't seem to score many headers?

I would have thought that was something we would work on at corners and free kicks?  Just think of how many goals Wheater and Beevers scored in this division a few years back for instance?

I'm not having a dig at Evatt but I recall him saying something about there being no point putting in crosses as all the other teams have big blokes and know how to deal with them - then goes out and signs Bakayoko to be such a target man to give us something different?

If he brings Bakayoko on to win headers as a sub to win headers late on in the game, then why not push Santos and/or MJ up for corners and free kicks sometimes, simply to mix things up from time to time, during the game?

Maybe he does, maybe I'm not seeing it but the fact remains that players like Santos and MJ - players with great height - don't seem to get on the scoresheet much if at all?

Yes I know if you push Santos and/or MJ forward then somebody needs to cover for them but you plan for that in training.

I still don't know why he didn't bring in another forward when the window was open and we knew we had players injured and decided to go with a vacant place in the squad?

Yes I know money and player availability comes into it but we are supposed to have already identified all these targets and if he really wanted another striker then I think Sharon would have backed him moneywise.

We can't complain really, it is what it is, we are doing ok and seem for the moment to be a top half of the table team - and play attractive football - not at all bad considering what we've had to endure for the last half dozen years or so!

33Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton Mon Oct 11 2021, 16:10

Norpig

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Nat Lofthouse
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We have scored quite a few from outside the box, mainly from Dapo but we do tend to overplay in the last third. Don't get me started on corners, we never score from them and it is annoying considering we have the likes of Santos and Williams in the team.

34Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton - Page 2 Empty Re: Sheffield Wednesday 1-0 Bolton Mon Oct 11 2021, 16:34

finlaymcdanger

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] wrote:

Maybe I'm just imagining this but haven't most of our goals come from shots from outside the penalty area?

I remember Allardyce once telling players NOT to shoot from outside the box as percentage wise it was a bad return on being successful.

I think our problem is simply that we don't have the speed in our game to get the ball in to dangerous areas before their defence can get back and defend.

Seems we are ok in open games but when teams park the bus we simply don't have the speed or guile to unlock their defence and thus why we seem to score (or it seems like that to me?) by shots from outside the box.

I'm also baffled that considering we have so many tall men in our side that we don't seem to score many headers?

I would have thought that was something we would work on at corners and free kicks?  Just think of how many goals Wheater and Beevers scored in this division a few years back for instance?

I'm not having a dig at Evatt but I recall him saying something about there being no point putting in crosses as all the other teams have big blokes and know how to deal with them - then goes out and signs Bakayoko to be such a target man to give us something different?

If he brings Bakayoko on to win headers as a sub to win headers late on in the game, then why not push Santos and/or MJ up for corners and free kicks sometimes, simply to mix things up from time to time, during the game?

Maybe he does, maybe I'm not seeing it but the fact remains that players like Santos and MJ - players with great height - don't seem to get on the scoresheet much if at all?

Yes I know if you push Santos and/or MJ forward then somebody needs to cover for them but you plan for that in training.

I still don't know why he didn't bring in another forward when the window was open and we knew we had players injured and decided to go with a vacant place in the squad?

Yes I know money and player availability comes into it but we are supposed to have already identified all these targets and if he really wanted another striker then I think Sharon would have backed him moneywise.

We can't complain really, it is what it is, we are doing ok and seem for the moment to be a top half of the table team - and play attractive football - not at all bad considering what we've had to endure for the last half dozen years or so!

I’m convinced he has the players studying how Manchester City play every day. He’s Pep obsessed and wholly believes that’s how the game should be played regardless of having to do it with L1/2 level players instead of world beaters. Doyle is no Aguero. Sarce is no Villa. We’ll need to be patient.

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