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How is the Tory government doing?

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981How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Mon Apr 25 2022, 11:38

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

okocha wrote:Credit where it's due to Boris for denouncing the vile, misogynistic article in the Mail on Sunday, and well done to all the Tory members who joined him.
Given that the article implied that Boris is reduced to a gibbering wreck who can't string a sentence together if a woman crosses her legs, it's hardly surprising he denounced it, is it?

982How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Mon Apr 25 2022, 11:53

Sluffy

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wanderlust wrote:
okocha wrote:Credit where it's due to Boris for denouncing the vile, misogynistic article in the Mail on Sunday, and well done to all the Tory members who joined him.
Given that the article implied that Boris is reduced to a gibbering wreck who can't string a sentence together if a woman crosses her legs, it's hardly surprising he denounced it, is it?

:facepalm:

You are so twisted with your hatred...

Sluffy wrote:Let me translate...

63 you are stupid.

I know everything and I'm smarter than the rest of the world who are all wrong.

I can't tell you how much this will cost because I've not bothered to do any background research (as per usual) on the plans at all but I know it will all be a waste of money because it is a Tory government idea and all things Tory are always wrong (even when they are right).

Credit is due to Johnson even the Okocha account says so!!!

983How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Mon Apr 25 2022, 13:46

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

wanderlust wrote:Pie loses it Smile

"Eton. A sort of Hogwarts for wankers".  :rofl:

984How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Wed Apr 27 2022, 09:41

Ten Bobsworth


El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

boltonbonce wrote:
"Eton. A sort of Hogwarts for wankers".  :rofl:

A politician telling porkies? Never heard such a thing!!!

P.S. Who is Jonathan Pie?

P.P.S. It was my granddaughter's birthday yesterday. She didn't have a 'piss-up' but she might have got a cake.

P.P.P.S. Is there any of that WMD left?

985How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Wed Apr 27 2022, 12:02

okocha

okocha
El Hadji Diouf
El Hadji Diouf

Wow! A major breach of the law re discharging patients from hospitals into care homes. Another resignation matter?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-61227709

986How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Wed Apr 27 2022, 13:33

Sluffy

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okocha wrote:Wow! A major breach of the law re discharging patients from hospitals into care homes. Another resignation matter?


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-61227709

I wouldn't think so.

No doubt there will be mass hysteria about this for evermore but if you look closely at the judges findings at the Judicial Review (remember JR's judge in black or white as to whether a law has been administered correctly or not) they've found the government wrong on a technicality namely that the advise they gave care homes should have included a sentence saying 'patients with non Covid symptoms should be placed in single bedrooms for the first 14 days after discharge' - or words to the effect.

That's the top and bottom of this ruling.

This is what the judges actually found -

288. Mr Coppel suggested that all patients discharged from hospital pursuant to the March
Discharge Policy should have been kept in a quarantine facility for 14 days before
being permitted to enter a care home. The Defendants’ response was that this too was
unrealistic; the facilities did not exist to provide this service for all those discharged.
But in our judgment, this was not a binary question - a choice between on the one
hand doing nothing at all, and on the other hand requiring all newly admitted residents
to be quarantined. The 19 March document could, for example, have said that where
an asymptomatic patient (other than one who has tested negative) is admitted to a care
home, he or she should, so far as practicable, be kept apart from other residents for up
to 14 days.
289. Since there is no evidence that this question was considered by the Secretary of State,
or that he was asked to consider it, it is not an example of a political judgment on a
finely balanced issue. Nor is it a point on which any of the expert committees had
advised that no guidance was required. Those drafting the March Discharge Policy
and the April Admissions Guidance simply failed to take into account the highly
relevant consideration of the risk to elderly and vulnerable residents from
asymptomatic transmission.
290. Counsel for the Defendants have put forward possible counter arguments. There is no
evidence that any of these was considered at the time and in any event they are
entirely unconvincing. The first was that many care home residents suffer from
dementia and such a patient might experience disorientation if moved to a new
environment and isolated from other patients. This is no doubt true, up to a point, but
many of the new arrivals were being discharged from hospital where their experience
must have been not only disorientating but terrifying; and there is no evidence that the
policy makers at the time took the view that the risk of serious trauma to a new
resident who is told that she will have a single room for the first week or two in her
new home outweighed the risk to other residents of asymptomatic transmission.
Another argument was that such advice might increase the staffing difficulties faced
by care home managers, but a recommendation to maintain a policy of isolation only
“so far as practicable” would not have created any such difficulties.
291. In our judgment, such a provision could and should have been included by the First
and Third Defendants in the March Discharge Policy. Furthermore, if it was not
included on 19 March, it could and should have been included in the Admissions
Guidance of 2 April.


Conclusions
297. The claims under the Human Rights Act 1998 are dismissed.
298. The common law claim succeeds against the Secretary of State and Public Health
England in respect of both the March Discharge Policy and April Admissions
Guidance documents to this extent: the policy set out in each document was irrational
in failing to advise that where an asymptomatic patient (other than one who had tested
negative) was admitted to a care home, he or she should, so far as practicable, be kept
apart from other residents for 14 days.

299. The claim against NHS England is dismissed.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Gardner-Harris-v-DHSC-judment-270422.pdf

987How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Wed Apr 27 2022, 13:39

Sluffy

Sluffy
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:facepalm:

Wtf!!!

Tories investigate claims MP watched pornography in Commons chamber

The Conservative Party is investigating claims a Tory MP watched porn on his mobile phone while sitting next to a female minister in the Commons chamber.

The incident was raised by a minister at a regular meeting of Tory MPs on Tuesday night, the BBC understands.

Another MP corroborated her account.

The name of the MP accused of watching porn was given to chief whip Chris Heaton-Harris, who is in charge of party discipline. His spokeswoman said he was "looking into the matter".

"This behaviour is wholly unacceptable and action will be taken," Mr Heaton-Harris's spokeswoman added.

The MP under investigation has not been publicly named and it is not known at this stage if they are a member of the government.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61245040

988How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Wed Apr 27 2022, 13:44

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

They just can't help themselves can they? No wonder people have no time for politics these days.

989How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sat Apr 30 2022, 02:14

Sluffy

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Tory MP Neil Parish on porn allegations: 'Of course it's embarrassing'

990How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Sun May 01 2022, 12:30

Sluffy

Sluffy
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At first glance you may think I'm posting this on the wrong thread - but I'm not.

What I would like to do is to recommend a film - 'Official Secrets' - which is based on the story of a government whistleblower, Katharine Gunn.

It is a shocking portrayal of politics at both the national level and how it is used and abused at a geopolitical level too.

I post this in this thread because all this abuse took place under a LABOUR government - and the point of me doing so is to remind people that all things Tory are bad and all things 'not' Tory are good...

They are all the same - as good or as bad as each other - they all want power and use it in the way that they see best for them.

Remember this TRUE life film the next time you may feel the Labour Party is the answer to everything - it is not - nobody has clean hands in politics.

No one.

Anyway see the film for free here - it really is worth a watch if you haven't seen it before.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0016mhq/official-secrets

991How is the Tory government doing? - Page 50 Empty Re: How is the Tory government doing? Mon May 02 2022, 22:58

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Nadine Dorries is excelling herself.  First of all she tweeted aboutStarmer having a pint and a curry during lockdown and the picture turned out to be him out with Frank Dobson who died in 2019 and now it’s rumoured she’s having an affair with Blojo. Smile

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