Norpig wrote:To be fair to Lusty it was you Sluffy that brought up past behaviour (post 281 was it?). Until you stop dragging up old arguments and constantly referring to lusty in your posts then this is going to carry on till you are the only one left on here.
To be fair to ME, I used that as an example we ALL could relate to first hand.
Someone who does act in just the way I described in the context I used...
Sluffy wrote:There's been a huge social and moral shift in the last decade or so dating back at least to Blair (and the lies to go to war) where what was once unacceptable as become accepted.
Look at how people behave on social media, look at how Wembley was stormed by the mob, look at how people ignored all the Covid rules, etc, etc, etc.
Look at Trump and how the Republican party still behaves, Christ (and I won't be popular for saying this) even look at how Wanderlust behaved on here - abusive, lying, completely in the wrong as I went to great lengths to demonstrate to you all - but no one was bothered and he's completely unrepentant for doing so.
My point being that if we as individuals don't try to do the right things in life, then why would you expect those with power - political, financial, physical or any other sort of power - to do the rights things?
Clearly they will do what's best for them.
That is the world we now live in.
Look I'm not stupid, and I don't seek a perfect world either.
Wanderlust clearly has issues, we can all see if he's made his mind up about something - the Tory Party, Brexit, Ken Anderson, etc, - they are set for life all none of them can ever do any good in his eyes ever again.
It's clear he views me the same way.
In all these examples he is ALWAYS right in his views and interpretations of reality as he sees it and we, the Tories, Brexit, Anderson and myself can never be seen to ever be right about anything ever again.
Put simply he always right and we are always wrong.
That's why he does what he does on here - and I would imagine he's just the same in real life also (that's my opinion just in case he wants to claim I'm libelling him again!).
I simply started afresh when Karly returned and DID NOTHING WRONG - I need to keep reminding you and everybody about that (which really you should be able to see for yourselves but you all seem to believe I'M the one in the wrong all of the time or at least equally to blame)
I'm NOT though.
It was always obvious to me that unless the forum recognised that this was NOT a 50/50 sort of thing and that the problem lays deep rooted in Wanderlust that things could never get better unless he was self regulated by others off here
That's why I've said often now that HE needs to be called out when his behaviour as gone too far and NOT both of us.
Think of it this way, if you have two kids and one is nasty to the other for no reason, do you give the innocent one a slap as well for just being there to?
Not that I would ever slap a child (or even a grown up) but you take my point.
I can ignore Wanderlust he doesn't mean anything to me but I can also
reference his behaviour where he HAS been abusive, he HAS lied and nobody on the forum has been bothered about his behaviour - hence my example as to if individuals widely act like that and it has become common place in society - which it has - then why would we expect politicians not to behave in just the same way themselves?
Wanderlust doesn't think he's doing anything wrong, he clearly believes I'm a wanker and that most of the rest of you do too. He believes he has right on his side - firstly because he thinks he's never wrong but mainly that up to recent weeks everybody has always been on my back and never his - his believe that he is in the right has been reinforced by no one actually taking serious issue with him about anything.
Even now, no one said to him his abuse of me was unnecessary or where are these posts you claim Sluffy was winding you up about because I can't find any...
It isn't six of one of us and half a dozen of the other, the problem is a deep seated dislike of me from Wanderlust and some sort of twisted view that he's justified, he's right, that I really am a wanker and you all see it the same way - because you always blame me - even in this case where I clearly haven't done anything.
He's not going to change I know that and as such if we both remain on here it is inevitable we will both clash again.
There are only two ways we can go forward therefore and that is if one or both of us leave or that others such as yourself are prepared to call out either of us if we cross the line.
Wanderlust should have been called out for his abuse of me and then for lying for his reason to give the abuse in the first place - he wasn't.
Similarly I shouldn't blamed for all or 50/50 percent of the arguments such as the last one when clearly I DID NOTHING WRONG.
And just to remind you this is what I posted when it all kicked off again this time...
...note well my last paragraph!!!
Sluffy wrote: wanderlust wrote:
Wow!
How on earth did you already know my opinion about it? You must be psychotic
Psychotic am I...
Psychosis is where you see or hear things that are not there (hallucinations) or believe things that are not true (delusions).Don't start again.I didn't mention anything about your opinion - and you know that - I merely pointed out that Karly had posted up the FULL article that you had linked to, some three hours earlier.
Instead of some how pretending you had seen that thread - which clearly you hadn't bothered to view the forum first before posting on here - you've tried to make out that you had but your reply to it would be better on here???
You aren't fooling anyone and have tried to twist things as though I'm the issue once again.
I'm not.
Hasn't the penny dropped with you yet the the whole forum is absolutely sick to death of the dance you and I have had for the last few years.
I've stuck to my side of the fence as I've said I would and it is about time you man up and hold your hand up when you get things wrong instead of trying to divert attention away from your mistakes and making it personal by throwing your abuse at me yet again.
For what it is worth it would be good to see a few others also telling Wanderlust to pack this sort of shit in - maybe he would hear the message a great deal louder if he realised that we ALL want an end to this.
Well...
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