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1The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 15:29

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
Yes a young girl has vanished due to parent neglect!! Two suspects from six years ago, one square chin, one long. How many other children have gone missing and the taxman is still funding the search for them after six years? Furthermore the child may have a new lifestyle now which she may prefer to that of her negligent parents.
Ffs these two are really passing me off now!!!

2The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 15:56

doffcocker

doffcocker
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
It would be interesting to know what it's actually costing the taxpayer. The media tends to find a way of arriving at a ludicrous figure with these things. What it would cost for everybody involved to fly out there first class and stay in five star accommodation, assuming the investigation went on for five years...that sort of idea.

Leaving a three year old alone, asleep, in a foreign country is my idea of bad parenting, not just because of the risk of kidnap. But it's an error of judgement that lots of people make who don't deserve to go through what these two have.

It even drives me, a member of the general public, mad wondering what happened there. I can't imagine how the parents must feel.

3The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 15:59

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Soul Kitchen wrote:Yes a young girl has vanished due to parent neglect!!  Two suspects from six years ago, one square chin, one long. How many other children have gone missing and the taxman is still funding the search for them after six years?  Furthermore the child may have a new lifestyle now which she may prefer to that of her negligent parents.
Ffs these two are really passing me off now!!!
It's about time the mods stepped in and told you to fuck off.

I'm sure you've won medals for your parenting skills.

4The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 16:06

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I for one am fucking sick of hearing about this now.

No other missing people get publicity like this.

5The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 16:07

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@Soul Kitchen wrote:Yes a young girl has vanished due to parent neglect!!  Two suspects from six years ago, one square chin, one long. How many other children have gone missing and the taxman is still funding the search for them after six years?  Furthermore the child may have a new lifestyle now which she may prefer to that of her negligent parents.
Ffs these two are really passing me off now!!!
It's about time the mods stepped in and told you to fuck off.

I'm sure you've won medals for your parenting skills.
There is a big difference though Natasha, they left their very young kids in their apartment while both parents fucked off downstairs to get pissed!

6The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 16:08

Guest


Guest
There aren't 2 suspects, it's 2 e-fits of the same man.

7The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 16:13

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
There is not a cat in hell's chance of finding her now IF she is alive that is!

8The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 16:20

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I hope they find the bastard .

9The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 16:23

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@Soul Kitchen wrote:Yes a young girl has vanished due to parent neglect!!  Two suspects from six years ago, one square chin, one long. How many other children have gone missing and the taxman is still funding the search for them after six years?  Furthermore the child may have a new lifestyle now which she may prefer to that of her negligent parents.
Ffs these two are really passing me off now!!!
It's about time the mods stepped in and told you to fuck off.

I'm sure you've won medals for your parenting skills.
More than you have! Very Happy 

10The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 17:51

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:There is a big difference though Natasha, they left their very young kids in their apartment while both parents fucked off downstairs to get pissed!
So we shouldn't try everything in our power to find her just because her parents were reckless?

11The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:21

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:There is a big difference though Natasha, they left their very young kids in their apartment while both parents fucked off downstairs to get pissed!
So we shouldn't try everything in our power to find her just because her parents were reckless?
It is well over 6 years since this happened.

Time to call it quits I'm afraid.

12The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:22

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:There is a big difference though Natasha, they left their very young kids in their apartment while both parents fucked off downstairs to get pissed!
So we shouldn't try everything in our power to find her just because her parents were reckless?
It is well over 6 years since this happened.

Time to call it quits I'm afraid.
If they have a new lead they might as well see where it ends up imo.

13The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:27

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@scottjames30 wrote:
@karlypants wrote:
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:There is a big difference though Natasha, they left their very young kids in their apartment while both parents fucked off downstairs to get pissed!
So we shouldn't try everything in our power to find her just because her parents were reckless?
It is well over 6 years since this happened.

Time to call it quits I'm afraid.
If they have a new lead they might as well see where it ends up imo.
It is great that the McCann's have determination to find her where as most would have given up a long time ago, it just makes me think that they are living off this now or have something to hide as they just won't let it drop in my opinion.

As Soul Kitchen says, it must be costing a fortune all this.

14The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:33

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
The new evidence that has come to light doesn't fill me with confidence. The E-Fits could be anyone and a man carrying a small child in his arms at night is hardly something that would seem to be out of place in a holiday resort.

15The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:34

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:It is great that the McCann's have determination to find her where as most would have given up a long time ago, it just makes me think that they are living off this now or have something to hide as they just won't let it drop in my opinion.

As Soul Kitchen says, it must be costing a fortune all this.
You don't have children do you KP. If you lost a child you would NEVER give up looking.

If they had something to hide they wouldn't be creating as much media attention as they can.

These poor people lost their daughter because they were stupid. Not nasty, just stupid. Imagine how they feel, how impossible their lives must be.

16The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:37

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
They will never move on until they get closure.

17The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:55

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I am all for them following new leads as evidence shows the initial case was not done properly and important leads not followed up.  As has already been stated, a parent would never give up looking for a missing child.

How many other British kids went missing whilst on holiday, in the last 6 years?

18The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 18:59

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@BoltonTillIDie wrote:I am all for them following new leads as evidence shows the initial case was not done properly and important leads not followed up.  As has already been stated, a parent would never give up looking for a missing child.

How many other British kids went missing whilst on holiday, in the last 6 years?
I doubt very much the Portuguese authorities followed up this new lead at the time Maddy was reported missing. They got tunnel vision and fixated on the McCanns rather than keeping an open mind. In their defence they had never dealt with a case like this before and were woefully ill prepared for both the investigation and the media attention.



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19The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 19:12

wessy

wessy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I for one pray that eventually they find this kid, i can't think of anything much worse than feeling guilty because you took your eye of the ball, not only feeling the agony of a lost child but having to put up with the utter bilge put out by thoughtless or brainless tossers who seem incapable of putting themselves in this position.

I do not believe a parent exists that has not taken there eye of the ball for a short while, if the punishment for having a meal and a glass of wine equate to a lifetime of sadness, then i say we are all probably guilty but lucky. Think things through before publishing such a callous view.

Yes she may have a new lifestyle guessing it involves fear and possibly abuse, but lets forget her because her parents where foolish. As for Portugal hold your head in shame. sorry for  sitting on the fence.

20The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 19:18

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wessy wrote:I for one pray that eventually they find this kid, i can't think of anything much worse than feeling guilty because you took your eye of the ball, not only feeling the agony of a lost child but having to put up with the utter bilge put out by thoughtless or brainless tossers who seem incapable of putting themselves in this position.

I do not believe a parent exists that has not taken there eye of the ball for a short while, if the punishment for having a meal and a glass of wine equate to a lifetime of sadness, then i say we are all probably guilty but lucky. Think things through before publishing such a callous view.

Yes she may have a new lifestyle guessing it involves fear and possibly abuse, but lets forget her because her parents where foolish. As for Portugal hold your head in shame. sorry for  sitting on the fence.
Top post. Being a parent I share your sentiments. They were on the first night of a family holiday and they let their guard down. Their actions will haunt them for the rest of their lives. It's punishment enough without having to read some of the dross and untruths churned out by the gutter press.

21The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 19:28

wessy

wessy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Here Here Trotter

22The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 20:05

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:It is great that the McCann's have determination to find her where as most would have given up a long time ago, it just makes me think that they are living off this now or have something to hide as they just won't let it drop in my opinion.

As Soul Kitchen says, it must be costing a fortune all this.
You don't have children do you KP. If you lost a child you would NEVER give up looking.

If they had something to hide they wouldn't be creating as much media attention as they can.

These poor people lost their daughter because they were stupid. Not nasty, just stupid. Imagine how they feel, how impossible their lives must be.
Nat you don't have children either do you? So what the hell do you know about parenting?
It's a toss up with you, parenting? Shagging? Bullshit ? Now which is your best subject?Very Happy 

23The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 20:12

Soul Kitchen

Soul Kitchen
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo
My whole point is what about other missing kids? I still think something smells about this whole affair. What about the other two kids, were they not disturbed? Did Maddy not scream? Does this suggest all three kids knew the person who removed Maddy? Or did she just wander out and fate befell her?
Are the McCanns still searching to appease their guilt? Too many questions that will never be answered.

24The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 21:38

aaron_bwfc

aaron_bwfc
Moderator
Moderator
Fair play to them for keeping the story in the media spotlight for so long, sadly I think it's all in vein but I don't believe any parent would give up hope if their child had gone missing.

Fingers crossed they finally get closure one way or another on all of this.

25The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 21:40

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
Don't get it.

Child asks where they were when her 3 years old and her brother aged 2, were cryinng the night before, yet they both bigger out again the next night too. And the mum checks on the kids at 10pm and doesn't even look at the kids to see they are ok?

Unfathomable.

We all make mistakes but wtf?

The children deserve better parents but even then she didn't deserve to be taken.

God I hope she's safe and well and soon home with loved ones.

26The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 22:01

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Sluffy, I presume you watched the crimewatch special on Madelaine?

Did anyone else watch it?

27The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 22:10

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Can anyone explain to me why trained dogs alerted to the smell of human remains in their rental car, on Maddies toy and in their wardrobe. 

I'm not being sarcastic but i didn't hear that mentioned once tonight.

28The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 22:15

wessy

wessy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
I saw it, all the other couples did exactly the same had a meal together, checking on the kids every half hour, no one takes a pop at them?, as i said they were very silly but paying such a dreadful price.

As for the time lapse, if you took that view for giving up, then the three lasses in America could have just rotted in a cellar everyone thought they were dead, if no proof of death how could any parent give up. If they did give up then they would deserve some stick.

Would be one hell of a story if they found her, never say never? and it's not just Madeline similar coverage happened with the young lad Ben Needham in Cyprus.

29The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 22:19

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
Yes I watched it.  Crimewatch, will be on BBC iPlayer later no doubt if you want to see it for yourself.

Doesn't really change much but the parents interview was shocking I thought, how can you leave 3 children aged under three alone especially when they are asking where you are when they are crying. Broke my heart that bit.

The mother goes on to say she checked on the kids by shutting their bedroom door without actuality looking in on them?  It was only when the door slameed she realised the window was open ed and shouldn't have been only then did she realise Maddy was missing.

Can't understand wtf they think they were doing.

Poor kid, God help her.

30The Madeline  McCann Scenario!  Empty Re: The Madeline McCann Scenario! on Mon Oct 14 2013, 22:35

Reebok Trotter

Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I think the whole issue regarding this case is the fact that both Maddy's parents were doctors. I know we had a rotten apple with Harry Shipman but in the main, doctors tend to stick to their Hippocratic oath.

You need to look at the layout of the complex that they stayed at. It wasn't just the McCanns. There was a group of them all on holiday at the same time. IIRC they were in a party of fourteen adults all on holiday at the same time. They were in company of work colleagues and they were in their comfort zone. They let their guard drop because they were in the company of other families that they worked with and were comfortable with.

ITV did a documentary a few years ago on the disappearance of Madelaine McCann and the conclusion was that Maddy had been kidnapped and that the Portuguese investigators had made a hash of things.

It's my take on events as well. I am 100% satisfied that the McCanns had no involvement whatsoever in their daughters disappearance. They made a terrible mistake, the consequences of which will haunt them forever. If there is such a thing as everlasting life then I would be happy to come back for the second time and have the McCanns as my parents.

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