Animal cruelty: I despair.

Jesus. I just read this shite. I should know better.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Reebok_Rebel wrote: surely as a catholic you would rather we didn't use human Embryos instead would you?

We should use humans with the mental capacity to understand what they are doing (rules you out Rebel, unfortunately).

I'm sure there are loads of students out there who would happily sign up to have their face smeared with rat poison if it got them beer money for the weekend.

You know Nat - to be a student you have to have at least a modicum of intelligence. 

If Humans want to do it - then fine, humans do in fact test a lot of shit - companies like AstraZenica  carry out voluntary human testing for drugs.

Now, regarding this - its only carried out under conditions that are deemed relatively safe towards life - otherwise due to the voluntary basis of the testing - if it wasn't, lots of ethical cans of worms would be opened... As a devout Christian, surely you can see that somebody volunteering for a pontentially dangerous clinital trial could be seen as an attempt to endanger their own god given existence (a sin)  or even a suicide attempt. SO again, I dont know how you can condone this.

As a Christian, im sure you will even agree to what god tells us in the book of Genesis - that  we can Kill animals and use them to feed and cloth us...

Genesis 1:26-28
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image,  male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Fair enough Rebel.but you're forgetting that God doesn't exist. But if he did,what a prick!

boltonbonce wrote:Fair enough Rebel.but you're forgetting that God doesn't exist. But if he did,what a prick!

Blasphemy!

Your death threat is now official. Watch your (hairy) back.

boltonbonce wrote:Fair enough Rebel.but you're forgetting that God doesn't exist. But if he did,what a prick!

Nat believes God does exist ...

God is helping my argument.

Leave god alone.

Bloody hell! A yellow card would have sufficed.

Sorry Bonce,

Looks like Nats done a runner again, she always does that when losing a discussion.    

I'm off to hide in a cupboard.

I actually agree with some of Rebels comments. My brother has a shotgun certificate and as well as shooting clay pigeons at Worsley woods he knows two farmers who let him shoot on their land. The wood pigeons cause devastation to crops and the foxes, crows and magpies are a threat to their livestock. If the birds are allowed to devastate the crop then there is no food to take to the market. Certain creatures are classed as vermin and pests and as such the farmer is legally within his rights to protect his crops. Rats are another bloody nuisance as well. Most farmers are not toffs. They are hard working people trying to earn a living.

Used to spend a lot of time in worsley woods. I'm told it's a dogging site now. Anyone know if that's true? 

boltonbonce wrote:Used to spend a lot of time in worsley woods. I'm told it's a dogging site now. Anyone know if that's true? 

Nat might know!  

karlypants wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:Used to spend a lot of time in worsley woods. I'm told it's a dogging site now. Anyone know if that's true? 

Nat might know!  

I've had an official death threat,so I won't ask her if you don't mind!

Me and our Huimphrey spend a lot of time in Worsley Woods and nobody's ever propositioned me for casual sex.

Can't speak for Humph, though.

I'll ask him when he wakes up.

Reebok Trotter wrote:They are hard working people trying to earn a living.

Then why do they all drive Jags and yet moan about being ripped off by supermarkets.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:They are hard working people trying to earn a living.

Then why do they all drive Jags and yet moan about being ripped off by supermarkets.

Most of them seem to drive Landrovers and they do get ripped off by the big five supermarket chains.

boltonbonce wrote:Used to spend a lot of time in worsley woods. I'm told it's a dogging site now. Anyone know if that's true? 

It's full of bloody cottagers as well. At one time the rozzers used to go undercover in plainclothes and lift a few collars but nowadays it's not seen as PC harassing people just because they have an alternative lifestyle.