Barb was right.

This site is going the way of Burnden Aces, we have lost some fantastic posters in recent days, moral of the story is, you let dickheads  post, you risk sensible posters fucking off, and you end up with well dickheads churning out shit to other posters, and sensible posters leaving, well done mods.

I'm off to bed. This might turn out to be a bad dream.

boltonbonce wrote:I'm off to bed. This might turn out to be a bad dream.

Sweet dreams of Brucie as Patsy Cline once said.

MartinBWFC wrote:

boltonbonce wrote:I'm off to bed. This might turn out to be a bad dream.

Sweet dreams of Brucie as Patsy Cline once said.

Might send Brucie round to see Breadman. Desperate times and all that...........

Bit of a bugger if Breaders has hopped it. And Barbie, but in quite a short space of time the banter has become quite bad, almost like each trying to have a blacker cat than others and that's always a recipe for disaster. Also the lack of soccer during the off time might have contributed. But I don't think modding is really an answer. We are all adults and should conduct ourselves as such if we have any respect for the forum and its members. It's a good forum and long may it continue.

Bollotom2014 wrote:Bit of a bugger if Breaders has hopped it. And Barbie, but in quite a short space of time the banter has become quite bad, almost like each trying to have a blacker cat than others and that's always a recipe for disaster. Also the lack of soccer during the off time might have contributed. But I don't think modding is really an answer. We are all adults and should conduct ourselves as such if we have any respect for the forum and its members. It's a good forum and long may it continue.

Totally agree. I am not on here as much atm due to health, but at its best, this is a brilliant place, at its worst, I understand people leaving. It is what its members make it, so we all bear responsibility for either contributing or stoking the rubbish, not dealing with it, not being active enough to try to counterbalance the negativity etc. For me, healthy argument and debate is wonderful, when it spills over into unhealthy personal vitriol, I no longer want to view or participate.

Have to say, although not a prolific poster, I am tending to respond less than I used to, quite often leaving whole threads unread. But I always come back

Have to say I totally agree with the sentiments expressed above. I haven't contributed much recently, partly because of work, but also because a couple of posters just make me shrug my shoulders in despair. 

It's impossible to add to intelligent debate and witty fun when the forum is dominated by those who seem to see the forum as a place to destroy anything worthwhile, turning it into a puerile, dim-witted battleground. They think they are proving themselves big-shots, but actually confirm themselves as the opposite.

We can't afford to lose excellent posters like Bread and Barb whilst accepting posts that simply make the rest of us feel that wit and sensible debate are sunk in torrents of unwelcome dross.

Incidentally, some of the vitriol aimed at Sluffy is completely uncalled-for. I was always taught "If you can't say something worthwhile or pleasant, keep quiet". Of all the people we wouldn't want to desert the site, Sluffy should be near the top.

Sorry to see anyone go and Boggers and Scott have become a pair of tossers basically looking to post crap and stir things up, try to post glib comments all the time and not having the intelligence or wit to carry it off so just making themselves look bitter and stupid.
The degeneration of threads from one subject into a stream of inanity about nothing but personal insults is a regular event and decent comments or wit are quickly swamped with rubbish.
On another note though I have interacted with Breadman on several threads and thought him to be reasonable and intelligent, but in terms of the toxicity on here IMO it started at the time of Brexit and Breadman was a leading protagonist in that and made many toxic posts hitting out at both general and individual parties who had a different view to him.
I have only been on here fully for a short time but certainly part of the divisions on here stemmed from that time.

Ahh, I should have read the later entries to page one of this thread, revealing that the terrible two have been banned. Well done, Mods!

whatsgoingon wrote:Sorry to see anyone go and Boggers and Scott have become a pair of tossers basically looking to post crap and stir things up, try to post glib comments all the time and not having the intelligence or wit to carry it off so just making themselves look bitter and stupid.
The degeneration of threads from one subject into a stream of inanity about nothing but personal insults is a regular event and decent comments or wit are quickly swamped with rubbish.
On another note though I have interacted with Breadman on several threads and thought him to be reasonable and intelligent, but in terms of the toxicity on here IMO it started at the time of Brexit and Breadman was a leading protagonist in that and made many toxic posts hitting out at both general and individual parties who had a different view to him.
I have only been on here fully for a short time but certainly part of the divisions on here stemmed from that time.

Thank God Boggers and Scott have been banned. They contributed absolutely nothing except simple volume of posts all of which was pathetically puerile. I can only assume they are 10 years old.

I disagree with the criticism of Breadman however. The toxic twins were destroying this site long before Brexit. Having had a spat with Breadman I know he can be intemperate but he didn't pick fights for the sake of it and nor did he feel compelled to make inane and irrelevant comments on every thread.

xmiles wrote:I disagree with the criticism of Breadman however. The toxic twins were destroying this site long before Brexit. Having had a spat with Breadman I know he can be intemperate but he didn't pick fights for the sake of it and nor did he feel compelled to make inane and irrelevant comments on every thread.

I don't know how long the toxic twins have been on the wind up, but after Brexit breadman went into melt down and lashed out at every body and everything, as I stated on other threads about other subjects I found myself in agreement on many things and I found him intelligent and reasonable.
But there have also been numerous instances of brexit references since which started to get a bit boring.
Just my opinion and yours may differ, but we agree on the fact that boggers and scott offered little recently.

whatsgoingon wrote:

xmiles wrote:I disagree with the criticism of Breadman however. The toxic twins were destroying this site long before Brexit. Having had a spat with Breadman I know he can be intemperate but he didn't pick fights for the sake of it and nor did he feel compelled to make inane and irrelevant comments on every thread.

I don't know how long the toxic twins have been on the wind up, but after Brexit breadman went into melt down and lashed out at every body and everything, as I stated on other threads about other subjects I found myself in agreement on many things and I found him intelligent and reasonable.
But there have also been numerous instances of brexit references since which started to get a bit boring.
Just my opinion and yours may differ, but we agree on the fact that boggers and scott offered little recently.

I agree from personal experience that Breadman could go into meltdown if you disagreed with him, and Sluffy's description of the background history throws more light on his behaviour but I would still be happy to see him (and Barb of course) back.

xmiles wrote:I agree from personal experience that Breadman could go into meltdown if you disagreed with him,

So imagine the backlash from over half the country disagreeing with him and getting their own way.

whatsgoingon wrote:

xmiles wrote:I agree from personal experience that Breadman could go into meltdown if you disagreed with him,

So imagine the backlash from over half the country disagreeing with him and getting their own way.

The referendum was/is a very divisive subject though and I'm sure that provided the context of Bread's posts so I doubt that influenced his decision. It would be churlish to leave just because a third of the country disagreed with him

I'm not saying that's why he left just that while he got some shit after that, he also gave plenty out.

Come back Bread woman,  God loves you....... even if scott and boggers think you're a right cnut!!