HomeFeel free to chip in with other examples but this seems to sadly be a complete waste of money:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43550383
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43550383
Is this a good use of public money?
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y2johnny
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2 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 13:37
Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
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It is a waste of money sadly but i do feel this case gets far more publicity than lots of other similar cases.
For what it's worth i don't believe the parents are involved,they were just idiots for leaving their kids alone and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
For what it's worth i don't believe the parents are involved,they were just idiots for leaving their kids alone and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
3 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 13:44
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
Norpig wrote:It is a waste of money sadly but i do feel this case gets far more publicity than lots of other similar cases.
For what it's worth i don't believe the parents are involved,they were just idiots for leaving their kids alone and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
Exactly how I feel Norpig.
4 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 13:48
wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
The reason more funding was granted is exactly because it was a high profile media case and is therefore political due to ongoing media attention.xmiles wrote:Norpig wrote:It is a waste of money sadly but i do feel this case gets far more publicity than lots of other similar cases.
For what it's worth i don't believe the parents are involved,they were just idiots for leaving their kids alone and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
Exactly how I feel Norpig.
Unfortunately there are hundreds of less known other cases of families seeking answers and justice that will be denied the funding as a result of this.
5 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 14:10
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
And me.xmiles wrote:Norpig wrote:It is a waste of money sadly but i do feel this case gets far more publicity than lots of other similar cases.
For what it's worth i don't believe the parents are involved,they were just idiots for leaving their kids alone and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
Exactly how I feel Norpig.
6 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 18:58
y2johnny
Tony Kelly
By leaving their kids alone while they was out drinking they are involved. Simple as.
If shaz and dave left the kids at home while they nipped in the top bull on the corner and one of their kids got "abducted!" Im pretty sure the other 17 would be taken off them.
But kate and gerry are doctors. Upstanding middle class at its finest.
Deplorable if you ask me
If shaz and dave left the kids at home while they nipped in the top bull on the corner and one of their kids got "abducted!" Im pretty sure the other 17 would be taken off them.
But kate and gerry are doctors. Upstanding middle class at its finest.
Deplorable if you ask me
7 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 19:07
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Well said Johnny!y2johnny wrote:By leaving their kids alone while they was out drinking they are involved. Simple as.
If shaz and dave left the kids at home while they nipped in the top bull on the corner and one of their kids got "abducted!" Im pretty sure the other 17 would be taken off them.
But kate and gerry are doctors. Upstanding middle class at its finest.
Deplorable if you ask me
8 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 19:37
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Norpig wrote:It is a waste of money sadly but i do feel this case gets far more publicity than lots of other similar cases.
For what it's worth i don't believe the parents are involved,they were just idiots for leaving their kids alone and they have to live with that for the rest of their lives.
9 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 19:45
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
y2johnny wrote:By leaving their kids alone while they was out drinking they are involved. Simple as.
If shaz and dave left the kids at home while they nipped in the top bull on the corner and one of their kids got "abducted!" Im pretty sure the other 17 would be taken off them.
But kate and gerry are doctors. Upstanding middle class at its finest.
Deplorable if you ask me
I take your point Johnny, but the day we give up searching for a missing kid is the day society has finally imploded.
10 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 19:47
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
What about the other missing kids that never got this money spent on trying to find them?Natasha Whittam wrote:y2johnny wrote:By leaving their kids alone while they was out drinking they are involved. Simple as.
If shaz and dave left the kids at home while they nipped in the top bull on the corner and one of their kids got "abducted!" Im pretty sure the other 17 would be taken off them.
But kate and gerry are doctors. Upstanding middle class at its finest.
Deplorable if you ask me
I take your point Johnny, but the day we give up searching for a missing kid is the day society has finally imploded.
11 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 19:50
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
This has been going on for eleven years and they have had millions of pounds spent on searching for one child with some police officers having their jollies abroad with it.
How many other children could we have helped with all that money?
How many other children could we have helped with all that money?
12 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 19:55
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
karlypants wrote:What about the other missing kids that never got this money spent on trying to find them?
I presume you have examples? I'm not aware of any other kids being snatched abroad other than Ben Needham, and I believe money was made available just recently to dig a patch of land in Greece.
I don't believe the police would give up on any kid who they thought had been abducted.
13 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 20:48
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Its not about the money, nor the parents. Its about an innocent child being either stolen and possibly/probably killed. Can you really put a price on that child's life, especially if the authorities, for whatever reason, are prepared to fund the investigation ? Just thank your lucky stars that you haven't been put in their position.
14 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 21:20
y2johnny
Tony Kelly
I'd never leave my kids on their own and go out on the piss therefore putting me in their position
15 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 21:34
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
How much funds did the Portuguese government put into all the investigative work etc?
16 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 21:38
y2johnny
Tony Kelly
I agree Nat. We shouldnt give up. But they've never been brought to account for the fact they left them on their own in the first place.Natasha Whittam wrote:y2johnny wrote:By leaving their kids alone while they was out drinking they are involved. Simple as.
If shaz and dave left the kids at home while they nipped in the top bull on the corner and one of their kids got "abducted!" Im pretty sure the other 17 would be taken off them.
But kate and gerry are doctors. Upstanding middle class at its finest.
Deplorable if you ask me
I take your point Johnny, but the day we give up searching for a missing kid is the day society has finally imploded.
Too many inconsistencies. But thats just my opinion. Like ive said above.
Id never leave my kids on their own (drugged or otherwise) while i went out living the high life
17 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Tue Mar 27 2018, 21:46
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
gloswhite wrote:Its not about the money, nor the parents. Its about an innocent child being either stolen and possibly/probably killed. Can you really put a price on that child's life, especially if the authorities, for whatever reason, are prepared to fund the investigation ? Just thank your lucky stars that you haven't been put in their position.
At a time when money is tight you have to wonder why it was decided to spend more money on what is almost certainly a complete waste of time. Ultimately you do have to put a price on a child's life just as you do when deciding whether someone should be given very expensive medical treatment. There is not an unlimited supply of money.
18 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Wed Mar 28 2018, 07:58
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Taking your argument a little further, do you stop treating somebody when they reach a certain age, or they have a little less than a 50/50 chance. With your progressive thinking, have you contemplated what happens when the likes of you and I get to a certain age, and society deems us an irrelevance, (because its going that way)?xmiles wrote:gloswhite wrote:Its not about the money, nor the parents. Its about an innocent child being either stolen and possibly/probably killed. Can you really put a price on that child's life, especially if the authorities, for whatever reason, are prepared to fund the investigation ? Just thank your lucky stars that you haven't been put in their position.
At a time when money is tight you have to wonder why it was decided to spend more money on what is almost certainly a complete waste of time. Ultimately you do have to put a price on a child's life just as you do when deciding whether someone should be given very expensive medical treatment. There is not an unlimited supply of money.
If its as black and white as you say, ask the old person on the hospital bed if they would like to stay alive at the expense of a missing child. I accept some of what your saying, but there are times when compromises have to be made, and the money isn't really that much in the great scheme of things. (after all, they gave a billion to the DUP)
19 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Wed Mar 28 2018, 09:23
karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Not sure how you can use the DUP as an example Glos as that was just a bribe for the Tories to stay in power.
Win at all costs and all that.
Don’t forget that there definitely is no money tree now!
Win at all costs and all that.
Don’t forget that there definitely is no money tree now!
20 Re: Is this a good use of public money? Wed Mar 28 2018, 09:32
xmiles
Jay Jay Okocha
gloswhite wrote:Taking your argument a little further, do you stop treating somebody when they reach a certain age, or they have a little less than a 50/50 chance. With your progressive thinking, have you contemplated what happens when the likes of you and I get to a certain age, and society deems us an irrelevance, (because its going that way)?xmiles wrote:gloswhite wrote:Its not about the money, nor the parents. Its about an innocent child being either stolen and possibly/probably killed. Can you really put a price on that child's life, especially if the authorities, for whatever reason, are prepared to fund the investigation ? Just thank your lucky stars that you haven't been put in their position.
At a time when money is tight you have to wonder why it was decided to spend more money on what is almost certainly a complete waste of time. Ultimately you do have to put a price on a child's life just as you do when deciding whether someone should be given very expensive medical treatment. There is not an unlimited supply of money.
If its as black and white as you say, ask the old person on the hospital bed if they would like to stay alive at the expense of a missing child. I accept some of what your saying, but there are times when compromises have to be made, and the money isn't really that much in the great scheme of things. (after all, they gave a billion to the DUP)
I am just being realistic. There is a finite amount of money and hard decisions need to be made all the time. The NHS cannot buy all the medicine it would like to and a body called NICE decides which are the most cost effective and allows the NHS to buy them and only them.
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