Let’s have a row

MartinBWFC wrote:What a fucking

Bolton Rebirth wrote:I won’t delve into the archives of this forum or any other to find some of the quotes I’ve heard about Bolton this season by our supporters - and I use that term as loosely as it can be used with.

But this is a message aimed specifically at the doubters. Those after 11 games or whatever it was with only 2 points. Those after Burton beat us at home. And away. Those who went on the pitch last year while also thinking “well were up but we should still get rid of the manager”

But more recently and most specifically to the party boys who went to Burton last week and for the final 88 minutes of the game gave our team nothing but grief, today’s celebrations were aimed at you. Not for you.

I know a lot of fans from a lot of rival clubs and they’re as long as your arm. But this season I haven’t had to defend our team against them half as much as I have had to against our own fans.

And by no stretch do I mean “ALL” or even most of our fans, most I see want and believe in the best for BWFC.

But the ones who go only to either the local games, or the odd longer distance game because it might mean something because you can get pissed and moan at something you have absolutely no knowledge about - just stay the fuck away..

I’m not going to dress the team up any better than it is. It’s a team that is not good enough for this level as it is. But we’ve come up and got fortunate at that, we’ve had no further investment because it isn’t there. We’ve lost our top goalscorer mid season - two years running. 

We’ve had 11 opening games where we’ve got fuck all. We’ve had our last 7 games before today and got fuck all. 

But now look at that table. And before Natasha Whittam or any of the other soldiers of darkness befall us, I’m not saying that in itself is an achievement. Given our situation though not only this season but even in this last ridiculously miraculous game we went head long into shit and somehow avoided it.

We now have a chance to prepare properly with the Madine money behind us to build a real team with actual quality - and god bless him but hopefully we won’t need nearly 40-something’s like Wilbraham to pull us out. 

I’ve said before that if we’re in this situation again in 12 months time, Parkinson’s time might be up. But for this season he’s accomplished what to me was an impossible achievement. The guy deserves a medal.

Summing up the lecture - and I don’t care if it’s a lecture if it just means you actually have to sit and fucking read something - for next season if you get behind the manager and team from the off, and stop shitting yourselves at 2.15 when the teamsheet is released and you think you know best, we might actually be able to build on this and climb the league. 

Keep booing and doubting and I along with many others would rather you just simply didn’t bother. Watch Wigan, watch Blackburn. Watch Chorley (although I know some of them and they don’t want doubters neither), cricket, hockey or badminton if you prefer. But don’t come down to our ground every week and give them shit because if we are in this spot again next year then the blood is on you as much as the manager  and players that got us there.

Bolton Rebirth wrote:I won’t delve into the archives of this forum or any other to find some of the quotes I’ve heard about Bolton this season by our supporters - and I use that term as loosely as it can be used with.

But this is a message aimed specifically at the doubters. Those after 11 games or whatever it was with only 2 points. Those after Burton beat us at home. And away. Those who went on the pitch last year while also thinking “well were up but we should still get rid of the manager”

But more recently and most specifically to the party boys who went to Burton last week and for the final 88 minutes of the game gave our team nothing but grief, today’s celebrations were aimed at you. Not for you.

I know a lot of fans from a lot of rival clubs and they’re as long as your arm. But this season I haven’t had to defend our team against them half as much as I have had to against our own fans.

And by no stretch do I mean “ALL” or even most of our fans, most I see want and believe in the best for BWFC.

But the ones who go only to either the local games, or the odd longer distance game because it might mean something because you can get pissed and moan at something you have absolutely no knowledge about - just stay the fuck away..

I’m not going to dress the team up any better than it is. It’s a team that is not good enough for this level as it is. But we’ve come up and got fortunate at that, we’ve had no further investment because it isn’t there. We’ve lost our top goalscorer mid season - two years running. 

We’ve had 11 opening games where we’ve got fuck all. We’ve had our last 7 games before today and got fuck all. 

But now look at that table. And before Natasha Whittam or any of the other soldiers of darkness befall us, I’m not saying that in itself is an achievement. Given our situation though not only this season but even in this last ridiculously miraculous game we went head long into shit and somehow avoided it.

We now have a chance to prepare properly with the Madine money behind us to build a real team with actual quality - and god bless him but hopefully we won’t need nearly 40-something’s like Wilbraham to pull us out. 

I’ve said before that if we’re in this situation again in 12 months time, Parkinson’s time might be up. But for this season he’s accomplished what to me was an impossible achievement. The guy deserves a medal.

Summing up the lecture - and I don’t care if it’s a lecture if it just means you actually have to sit and fucking read something - for next season if you get behind the manager and team from the off, and stop shitting yourselves at 2.15 when the teamsheet is released and you think you know best, we might actually be able to build on this and climb the league. 

Keep booing and doubting and I along with many others would rather you just simply didn’t bother. Watch Wigan, watch Blackburn. Watch Chorley (although I know some of them and they don’t want doubters neither), cricket, hockey or badminton if you prefer. But don’t come down to our ground every week and give them shit because if we are in this spot again next year then the blood is on you as much as the manager  and players that got us there.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Bolton Rebirth wrote:I won’t delve into the archives of this forum or any other to find some of the quotes I’ve heard about Bolton this season by our supporters - and I use that term as loosely as it can be used with.

But this is a message aimed specifically at the doubters. Those after 11 games or whatever it was with only 2 points. Those after Burton beat us at home. And away. Those who went on the pitch last year while also thinking “well were up but we should still get rid of the manager”

But more recently and most specifically to the party boys who went to Burton last week and for the final 88 minutes of the game gave our team nothing but grief, today’s celebrations were aimed at you. Not for you.

I know a lot of fans from a lot of rival clubs and they’re as long as your arm. But this season I haven’t had to defend our team against them half as much as I have had to against our own fans.

And by no stretch do I mean “ALL” or even most of our fans, most I see want and believe in the best for BWFC.

But the ones who go only to either the local games, or the odd longer distance game because it might mean something because you can get pissed and moan at something you have absolutely no knowledge about - just stay the fuck away..

I’m not going to dress the team up any better than it is. It’s a team that is not good enough for this level as it is. But we’ve come up and got fortunate at that, we’ve had no further investment because it isn’t there. We’ve lost our top goalscorer mid season - two years running. 

We’ve had 11 opening games where we’ve got fuck all. We’ve had our last 7 games before today and got fuck all. 

But now look at that table. And before Natasha Whittam or any of the other soldiers of darkness befall us, I’m not saying that in itself is an achievement. Given our situation though not only this season but even in this last ridiculously miraculous game we went head long into shit and somehow avoided it.

We now have a chance to prepare properly with the Madine money behind us to build a real team with actual quality - and god bless him but hopefully we won’t need nearly 40-something’s like Wilbraham to pull us out. 

I’ve said before that if we’re in this situation again in 12 months time, Parkinson’s time might be up. But for this season he’s accomplished what to me was an impossible achievement. The guy deserves a medal.

Summing up the lecture - and I don’t care if it’s a lecture if it just means you actually have to sit and fucking read something - for next season if you get behind the manager and team from the off, and stop shitting yourselves at 2.15 when the teamsheet is released and you think you know best, we might actually be able to build on this and climb the league. 

Keep booing and doubting and I along with many others would rather you just simply didn’t bother. Watch Wigan, watch Blackburn. Watch Chorley (although I know some of them and they don’t want doubters neither), cricket, hockey or badminton if you prefer. But don’t come down to our ground every week and give them shit because if we are in this spot again next year then the blood is on you as much as the manager  and players that got us there.

If you'd posted that after the Burton game I'd say you'd be entitled to your opinion, even though I don't agree with it.

To post it a few hours after we stayed in the division by a whisker just makes it laughable. Where were you a week ago with your condescending bollocks?

A Bolton supporter is one who goes to the games. He or she is supporting the club by handing over money. That gives he or she the right to applaud or hurl abuse, I really don't care.

These players are paid handsomely, as is the manager, if they can't go to Burton and put on a performance they deserve every single bit of abuse. To hide behind the "they're not good enough so we shouldn't criticise them" excuse is just absolute bullshit. They showed today they CAN perform at this level. Where was this performance against Birmingham? Or against Burton?

I bet you didn't even go today.

Bolton Rebirth wrote:But all season booing the manager or board or players or whatever, and then being surprised at the performance going down by all and thinking it’s unrelated? Yep do that and convince yourself you’re a “great fan” but I’m not having it.

Bolton Rebirth wrote:Natasha Whittam or any of the other soldiers of darkness.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Bolton Rebirth wrote:But all season booing the manager or board or players or whatever, and then being surprised at the performance going down by all and thinking it’s unrelated? Yep do that and convince yourself you’re a “great fan” but I’m not having it.

It's clueless fans like you that have contributed to the "God-like" status the modern footballer enjoys.

Sometimes players (all players, not just ours) are just crap, or not interested, or lazy. It isn't our job to applaud those players. You seem to be suggesting we should be applauding them off after poor performances? Are we at the point where players are beyond blame?

The modern footballer is paid like a king, but regardless of salary, it's his fucking job! It shouldn't matter what the people on the terraces are doing or saying. In the real world if people underperform they don't get a round of applause from their bosses, they get the fucking push.

If players were more accountable for their actions football would be significantly more enjoyable and fair. But while fans like you applaud their every move it will only get worse.

y2johnny wrote:FFS

AGAIN

WE WON

ITS NOT SUNNY NOW BUT IT WAS

TOMORROW IS A BANK HOLIDAY

HAVE A BEER AND SHUT THE FUCK UP

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Bolton Rebirth wrote:Natasha Whittam or any of the other soldiers of darkness.

That sounds like an ace name for a band.

Bolton Rebirth wrote:

y2johnny wrote:FFS

AGAIN

WE WON

ITS NOT SUNNY NOW BUT IT WAS

TOMORROW IS A BANK HOLIDAY

HAVE A BEER AND SHUT THE FUCK UP

Fair. Party on!