MartinBWFC wrote:And therein lies the problem, in Parkinson's world Doidge is the futureGrowler wrote: the sort of signings Parky could make now if he had the vision.
You think it’s the Cowley brothers you sausage.
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MartinBWFC wrote:And therein lies the problem, in Parkinson's world Doidge is the futureGrowler wrote: the sort of signings Parky could make now if he had the vision.
I'm not too sure. As mentioned previously, now that the assets have all been hocked and the club continues to lose money, there nowhere else for Anderson to go and nothing left to prop up his tenure, hence his sudden interest in talking to potential investors - who I believe have been around for ages.T.R.O.Y wrote:I don’t expect KA to care about the club as such - nor do I blame him for not doing so. As has been said many time he’s a businessman who wants to turn a profit. Regarding his other business interests i’d be interested to know whether the public financial disputes at the club have damaged his reputation or not?
It’s clear he wants to sell for the right price now, which makes sense for all involved. Can’t say I’m hopeful of anyone actually coming through though we’ve seen it all before.
17 years to be precise, but I won't derail your argument with facts, he has however managed West Ham in recent years to promotion.Natasha Whittam wrote:It's been over 15 years since Allardyce managed us in the Championship, people need to get a grip.
MartinBWFC wrote:17 years to be precise, but I won't derail your argument with facts, he has however managed West Ham in recent years to promotion.
Merely pointing out that he has form for getting promotion from this league.Natasha Whittam wrote:
I'm not sure why him managing West Ham has derailed my argument, you do realise they are a different club in a different part of the country?
The point is that it's by no means certain that the club still "owns" the stadium, hotel, academy and "other land" any more is it?Norpig wrote:I'm sure i saw an article somewhere recently saying Big Sam wouldn't contemplate managing in the Championship again. I'd be happy to see him back in some other capacity if he was involved with a bid for the club.
£30million doesn't seem a lot for a club with it's own stadium, Hotel, Academy and other land but if the debts have to be cleared on top of that it pushes up the price.
I'm hoping the Americans haven't pulled out as leaving it a one horse race will make it more difficult as both sides will have to compromise to push a deal through.
The loans were in place before AndwrsAn arrived, including blumarble. Car park was bought before Anderson arrived, academy is a loan by Brett Warburton before andersAn arrived etc, etcwanderlust wrote:The point is that it's by no means certain that the club still "owns" the stadium, hotel, academy and "other land" any more is it?Norpig wrote:I'm sure i saw an article somewhere recently saying Big Sam wouldn't contemplate managing in the Championship again. I'd be happy to see him back in some other capacity if he was involved with a bid for the club.
£30million doesn't seem a lot for a club with it's own stadium, Hotel, Academy and other land but if the debts have to be cleared on top of that it pushes up the price.
I'm hoping the Americans haven't pulled out as leaving it a one horse race will make it more difficult as both sides will have to compromise to push a deal through.
Hasn't Anderson hocked it all for loans to prop up his tenure instead of running the business profitably?
The £30 million Anderson is asking for is for him to piss off so potential investors won't get anything for their £30 million other than inheriting the increased debt he leaves behind.
As far as I understand he's effectively remortgaged the house for cash so whilst the club's name might be on those assets they are in reality owned by the bank/creditors. Those debts will have to be settled in addition to Anderson's payoff before the club owns them outright again.
We won't get any detail until March 2019. The only set of accounts filed since Anderson arrived are for the period ending June 2017 during which there was a huge disposal of assets, considerable borrowing and a statement from the auditors which effectively said they couldn't verify the accounts. The accounts next March will only be up to June 2018 so even then we won't see what else he's hocked although we do know that the money borrowed from EDs estate was also secured against Burden Leisure assets since then.
As for Allardyce, his circumstances have changed so who knows what he might do if an owner with real money bought us?
Just that Sam's Crap Football got results regularly, Parky's crap Football Doesn't !!!Natasha Whittam wrote:But you moan about the quality of football under Parky, West Ham & Everton fans did exactly the same when Allardyce was managing them.
Are you saying Anderson hasn't used the remaining club assets as collateral for loans then? Wow.Nigelbwfc wrote:The loans were in place before AndwrsAn arrived, including blumarble. Car park was bought before Anderson arrived, academy is a loan by Brett Warburton before andersAn arrived etc, etcwanderlust wrote:The point is that it's by no means certain that the club still "owns" the stadium, hotel, academy and "other land" any more is it?Norpig wrote:I'm sure i saw an article somewhere recently saying Big Sam wouldn't contemplate managing in the Championship again. I'd be happy to see him back in some other capacity if he was involved with a bid for the club.
£30million doesn't seem a lot for a club with it's own stadium, Hotel, Academy and other land but if the debts have to be cleared on top of that it pushes up the price.
I'm hoping the Americans haven't pulled out as leaving it a one horse race will make it more difficult as both sides will have to compromise to push a deal through.
Hasn't Anderson hocked it all for loans to prop up his tenure instead of running the business profitably?
The £30 million Anderson is asking for is for him to piss off so potential investors won't get anything for their £30 million other than inheriting the increased debt he leaves behind.
As far as I understand he's effectively remortgaged the house for cash so whilst the club's name might be on those assets they are in reality owned by the bank/creditors. Those debts will have to be settled in addition to Anderson's payoff before the club owns them outright again.
We won't get any detail until March 2019. The only set of accounts filed since Anderson arrived are for the period ending June 2017 during which there was a huge disposal of assets, considerable borrowing and a statement from the auditors which effectively said they couldn't verify the accounts. The accounts next March will only be up to June 2018 so even then we won't see what else he's hocked although we do know that the money borrowed from EDs estate was also secured against Burden Leisure assets since then.
As for Allardyce, his circumstances have changed so who knows what he might do if an owner with real money bought us?
True, however, I don't believe there are many knocking at his door just now.T.R.O.Y wrote:It comes back to who we could attract, and allardyce isn’t going to come here and work with no budget.
Come off it - fans will moan regardless of the quality of football as the moment a team starts playing better, expectations rise again. Miserable bunch of bastards football fans.bryan458 wrote:Just that Sam's Crap Football got results regularly, Parky's crap Football Doesn't !!!Natasha Whittam wrote:But you moan about the quality of football under Parky, West Ham & Everton fans did exactly the same when Allardyce was managing them.
wanderlust wrote:And by the time Allardyce got to West Ham and Everton a lot of their fans had already decided they didn't like him before a ball was kicked, and didn't change their minds despite him going on to have a winning record at both clubs.
As far as I'm aware the debts are ones Anderson inherited. He extended the Blu Marble one and I'm not aware that he's taken on any extra debt, only extended the term the debts needed to be paid off.wanderlust wrote:Are you saying Anderson hasn't used the remaining club assets as collateral for loans then? Wow.Nigelbwfc wrote:The loans were in place before AndwrsAn arrived, including blumarble. Car park was bought before Anderson arrived, academy is a loan by Brett Warburton before andersAn arrived etc, etcwanderlust wrote:The point is that it's by no means certain that the club still "owns" the stadium, hotel, academy and "other land" any more is it?Norpig wrote:I'm sure i saw an article somewhere recently saying Big Sam wouldn't contemplate managing in the Championship again. I'd be happy to see him back in some other capacity if he was involved with a bid for the club.
£30million doesn't seem a lot for a club with it's own stadium, Hotel, Academy and other land but if the debts have to be cleared on top of that it pushes up the price.
I'm hoping the Americans haven't pulled out as leaving it a one horse race will make it more difficult as both sides will have to compromise to push a deal through.
Hasn't Anderson hocked it all for loans to prop up his tenure instead of running the business profitably?
The £30 million Anderson is asking for is for him to piss off so potential investors won't get anything for their £30 million other than inheriting the increased debt he leaves behind.
As far as I understand he's effectively remortgaged the house for cash so whilst the club's name might be on those assets they are in reality owned by the bank/creditors. Those debts will have to be settled in addition to Anderson's payoff before the club owns them outright again.
We won't get any detail until March 2019. The only set of accounts filed since Anderson arrived are for the period ending June 2017 during which there was a huge disposal of assets, considerable borrowing and a statement from the auditors which effectively said they couldn't verify the accounts. The accounts next March will only be up to June 2018 so even then we won't see what else he's hocked although we do know that the money borrowed from EDs estate was also secured against Burden Leisure assets since then.
As for Allardyce, his circumstances have changed so who knows what he might do if an owner with real money bought us?
wanderlust wrote:Are you saying Anderson hasn't used the remaining club assets as collateral for loans then? Wow.Nigelbwfc wrote:The loans were in place before AndwrsAn arrived, including blumarble. Car park was bought before Anderson arrived, academy is a loan by Brett Warburton before andersAn arrived etc, etcwanderlust wrote:The point is that it's by no means certain that the club still "owns" the stadium, hotel, academy and "other land" any more is it?Norpig wrote:I'm sure i saw an article somewhere recently saying Big Sam wouldn't contemplate managing in the Championship again. I'd be happy to see him back in some other capacity if he was involved with a bid for the club.
£30million doesn't seem a lot for a club with it's own stadium, Hotel, Academy and other land but if the debts have to be cleared on top of that it pushes up the price.
I'm hoping the Americans haven't pulled out as leaving it a one horse race will make it more difficult as both sides will have to compromise to push a deal through.
Hasn't Anderson hocked it all for loans to prop up his tenure instead of running the business profitably?
The £30 million Anderson is asking for is for him to piss off so potential investors won't get anything for their £30 million other than inheriting the increased debt he leaves behind.
As far as I understand he's effectively remortgaged the house for cash so whilst the club's name might be on those assets they are in reality owned by the bank/creditors. Those debts will have to be settled in addition to Anderson's payoff before the club owns them outright again.
We won't get any detail until March 2019. The only set of accounts filed since Anderson arrived are for the period ending June 2017 during which there was a huge disposal of assets, considerable borrowing and a statement from the auditors which effectively said they couldn't verify the accounts. The accounts next March will only be up to June 2018 so even then we won't see what else he's hocked although we do know that the money borrowed from EDs estate was also secured against Burden Leisure assets since then.
As for Allardyce, his circumstances have changed so who knows what he might do if an owner with real money bought us?
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