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Coronavirus - Should the University's reopen?

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Sluffy

Sluffy
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Apparently there's going to be a mass migration of over 1 million youngsters in the late teems to early twenties, throughout the country moving to universities.

I'm sure the universities themselves are as Covid proof as can be expected but can anyone really believe that a million young people, many being free from their parents eye for the first times in their lives, are going to be socially distancing in their halls of residence/house shares. etc and refraining from all the sort of stuff they do these days?

Perfect recipe for a Covid spike, people moving from places with high numbers of cases, such as say the north west/Yorkshire lockdown areas to university towns and city's with low/no cases and visa versa, kids from non effected areas going to places like Manchester (8th out of 315) and Leeds (18th) and bringing the virus back with them during home visits where no doubt they will be catching up with their mates!

Clearly the makings of the second wave.

I'm sure the kids will be fine and enjoy themselves - and why not, isn't that what life is all about but no doubt the numbers of new cases will shoot up.

Fwiw I've been monitoring what I think is really the key indicator in all of this and that is hospital admissions.

The fantastic news is that although new cases are set to rocket up, hospital admissions have steadily gone down - would you believe as at the 28th August (the latest figures I can verify) there are only 430 people in hospital with Covid in the whole of England - seems really, really low to me?

There's 255 in Scotland for comparison.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/healthcare

Anyway my point is that we know the virus is out there but it no longer seems to equate the need for hospital care - I guess the young are catching it but it isn't knocking them down in any way.

I predict university opening will cause a big spread of the virus to parts of the country who seem clear of it up to now (watch out North Norfolk) but won't be such a grim reaper as such for most of us unless we are unlucky and already in the at risk/vulnerable class already.

Reading and Royal Holloway are probably the nearest two universities to where I live so doubt I'll be effected much by kids coming into my area and as my area is up there in new cases anyway I can't see many brining the virus back with them changing things much for me either - but I'm sure others will be in areas which may well suffer from the the kids moving in and out of the area where you and/or your love ones live.

Anyone got any thoughts?

Should the universities reopen or these days should they all do the lecturing via Zoom direct to the students family homes?

sunlight

sunlight
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
As a keen viewer of University Challenge, I speculate if the University that sits above the other one, upstairs from them, have an advantage.
The Gentleman from Oxford, the Captain, last week was a genius.

Corpus Christi Oxfod had a Gentleman called Webb. Watch this guy answer so many questions. He won it for them on his own!



I watched this episode last week, I watch them all.

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@sunlight wrote:As a keen viewer of University Challenge, I speculate if the University that sits above the other one, upstairs from them, have an advantage.
The Gentleman from Oxford, the Captain, last week was a genius.

Corpus Christi Oxfod had a Gentleman called Webb. Watch this guy answer so many questions. He won it for them on his own!



I watched this episode last week, I watch them all.
As do I although I still sort of expect them to say Bamber Gascoigne in the introduction even though Paxman's being doing it for ages.

gloswhite

gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Guðni Bergsson
I suppose it hangs on whether you think the students are adult enough to behave properly, or you think they are idiots and will let everyone, including themselves, down. I think the former, but with a few idiots chucked in, which could make a difference.
Just a thought, but how many schoolchildren are going back this term ?

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@gloswhite wrote:I suppose it hangs on whether you think the students are adult enough to behave properly, or you think they are idiots and will let everyone, including themselves, down. I think the former, but with a few idiots chucked in, which could make a difference.
Just a thought, but how many schoolchildren are going back this term ?

Nine million I read - but at least they will all be local to their area and not cross contaminating across the whole country as university students will have the capacity to do.

As for the uni students being adult and behaving properly, well obviously some/even many will but I think you will find the culture is for most of them to be off the parental leash for the first time and drinking, social interaction and having a whale of a time will be high on their list of things to do whilst there - and there's nothing wrong with that really, we all go through that sort of stage in our lives around that time of life.

I have no doubts the virus will spread because of it and some of the kids will unknowingly bring it back into their home communities and start up mini spikes there.

I don't think that will translate to significantly higher hospital admissions and deaths, at least initially, based on highly daily positive tests now but very low hospital admissions resulting - as most seem to have it without making them ill as such.

I guess what I'm saying is for all the old, sick and vulnerable life has to carry on has it has since all this started, even if lockdown and shielding has been lifted.

The virus will be out there and the vast majority won't be harmed by it but us few, if we caught it, could be very nasty for us.

Keep staying safe no matter what.

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