We have the likes of QPR, Reading, Watford, Forest, all being now owned by billionaires, what is it about clubs of our size being a more prized asset than BWFC, it seems to me that more and more money men want to buy football clubs, but never even consider our little humble club, why is that ? your thoughts please.
How do smaller clubs attract big backers?
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Joburg Wanderer
chipbutty
Sluffy
Reebok Trotter
terenceanne
Hipster_Nebula
gloswhite
Keegan
Whatsupdoc
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2 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Sun Jul 08 2012, 05:34
Keegan
Admin
It may have something to do with being owned by a fan who is owed millions by the club.
3 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Sun Jul 08 2012, 11:01
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
Although this is the right time to buy BWFC, (I believe the trading side of Middlebrook is doing ok), any purchaser has to stump up 100 million just to get in the door. I don't think all the other ones had to fork out that much to start with. And lets be honest, the buyer would have to look at not just the playinging staff, but also the managment team and infrastructure, which has proven itself over the last 5 years or so, as completely inept, which means a very ropey core to build on.
4 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Sun Jul 08 2012, 12:11
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
We're also "At capacity" I.E our fanbase isn't likely to grow, and our stadium is half empty every week.
the capacity for cash flow is almost zero.
the capacity for cash flow is almost zero.
5 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Sun Jul 08 2012, 15:39
gloswhite
Guðni Bergsson
HN, does that mean that over the next few years, Bolton Wanderers supporters a likely to become extinct?
6 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Sun Jul 08 2012, 15:51
Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
haha yes, completely empty stadium.
but generally 9/10 kids born in and around the area will probably end up supporting utd, city, liverpool etc etc.
so our ability to amass a big fan base is limited.
but generally 9/10 kids born in and around the area will probably end up supporting utd, city, liverpool etc etc.
so our ability to amass a big fan base is limited.
7 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Mon Jul 09 2012, 16:29
terenceanne
El Hadji Diouf
Bolton is just not perceived as a glamerous place to be..... that's all there is to it.
What billionare is going to want to bring his fancy women & friends to Bowton?
We had 50 to 60 thousand at Burnden Park back in the day with less population then there is now. Support could be built up somewhat IMO. Strangely though there are less chippy's than there used to be ....maybe that's got somat to do with it.
What billionare is going to want to bring his fancy women & friends to Bowton?
We had 50 to 60 thousand at Burnden Park back in the day with less population then there is now. Support could be built up somewhat IMO. Strangely though there are less chippy's than there used to be ....maybe that's got somat to do with it.
8 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Mon Jul 09 2012, 22:41
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
terenceanne wrote:Bolton is just not perceived as a glamerous place to be..... that's all there is to it.
What billionare is going to want to bring his fancy women & friends to Bowton?
We had 50 to 60 thousand at Burnden Park back in the day with less population then there is now. Support could be built up somewhat IMO. Strangely though there are less chippy's than there used to be ....maybe that's got somat to do with it.
Burnden Park only had a capacity of 25,000 and yet our record attendance was 69,912 back in 1933. They must have been packed in like sardines when the majority of the Stadium was predominately terracing.
When we got promoted in 77/78 our biggest crowd was 32,000 against United.
9 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Mon Jul 09 2012, 23:24
Sluffy
Admin
Think that was the capacity with all seating RT.
I've certainly been in a 50,000 crowd at Burnden (League Cup semi v Everton in 1977).
Duncan McKenzie missed a penalty for them I seem to remember.
Happy days!
I've certainly been in a 50,000 crowd at Burnden (League Cup semi v Everton in 1977).
Duncan McKenzie missed a penalty for them I seem to remember.
Happy days!
10 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 08:54
chipbutty
Nicolas Anelka
I vaguely remember this penalty miss. Did he stop half-way through his run-up and start again, then miss it.
11 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 10:14
Joburg Wanderer
David Ngog
I also remember McKenzie blazing it over the bar at the Embankment end, then Bob Latchford scored a header. I went to first leg at Goodison as a 10 year old and sat next to window on coach, my first ever away game 1-1 Whatmore scored then coach got bricked on the way out!!!
12 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 11:38
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Joburg Wanderer wrote:I also remember McKenzie blazing it over the bar at the Embankment end, then Bob Latchford scored a header. I went to first leg at Goodison as a 10 year old and sat next to window on coach, my first ever away game 1-1 Whatmore scored then coach got bricked on the way out!!!
Hello Joburg, nice to add another international poster to the site. Unless of course you're posting from a bedsit in Bolton town centre.
13 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 12:30
Joburg Wanderer
David Ngog
Thanks Natasha I am posting from my office in Johannesburg. Been here for 13 years now, only came for a 5 week job!!! I went to my first game in '73 against Hull City and we wone 5-1, was a season ticket holder at Burnden and Reebok till I came here in '99.
I am disappionted as i won't see us much next season as they only show the occassional Championship game here, I saw every Premier League game either live or recorded for the past at least 4 seasons. I will have to get myself internet on my iPad!!!
I am disappionted as i won't see us much next season as they only show the occassional Championship game here, I saw every Premier League game either live or recorded for the past at least 4 seasons. I will have to get myself internet on my iPad!!!
14 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 12:35
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Joburg Wanderer wrote:Thanks Natasha I am posting from my office in Johannesburg. Been here for 13 years now, only came for a 5 week job!!! I went to my first game in '73 against Hull City and we wone 5-1, was a season ticket holder at Burnden and Reebok till I came here in '99.
I am disappionted as i won't see us much next season as they only show the occassional Championship game here, I saw every Premier League game either live or recorded for the past at least 4 seasons. I will have to get myself internet on my iPad!!!
I went to Joburg in 2003 and loved it. If it was closer I'd go more often.
I hope you stick around on here.
15 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 12:44
Joburg Wanderer
David Ngog
I will stick around. Hopefully we should have a successful season and bounce back.
Joburg has a bad reputation, but i have seen very little trouble, you just know which areas to avoid!!! Where abouts did you stay when you were here, I live near Sandton. I thoroughly enjoy living here ( I have a wife, 2 kids and 3 dogs here so can't leave!!!). I last came home Christmas 2009, so am due a visit this year, can't wait for a pint in the Brinsop with my old mates, and a chippy dinner and a doner kebab, it's strange what you miss!!!
Joburg has a bad reputation, but i have seen very little trouble, you just know which areas to avoid!!! Where abouts did you stay when you were here, I live near Sandton. I thoroughly enjoy living here ( I have a wife, 2 kids and 3 dogs here so can't leave!!!). I last came home Christmas 2009, so am due a visit this year, can't wait for a pint in the Brinsop with my old mates, and a chippy dinner and a doner kebab, it's strange what you miss!!!
16 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 12:51
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Small world, my friend lives in Randburg which isn't far from Sandton. I stayed with her for two weeks.
17 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 12:57
Reebok Trotter
Nat Lofthouse
Been to Joburg many times before Nelson took over. Used to go ice skating in the Carlton centre.
18 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 13:16
Joburg Wanderer
David Ngog
I may be moving to Randburg next year.
I have been to the Carlton Centre to the top floor, great views. Actually the CBD is really being cleaned up now. On the outskirts in Braamfontein it's a great night out.
I have been to the Carlton Centre to the top floor, great views. Actually the CBD is really being cleaned up now. On the outskirts in Braamfontein it's a great night out.
19 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 13:59
Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Joburg Wanderer wrote:I may be moving to Randburg next year.
Cool, when I tire of my friend's company next time I visit her I can stay at your place.
20 Re: How do smaller clubs attract big backers? Tue Jul 10 2012, 17:48
Sluffy
Admin
Hello and welcome Joburg.
Really pleased my memory of the game prompted you to post.
I do hope you like it here with us and decide to stick around a while.
@Chipbutty my memory is not what it once was but I think he did - what stuck it my mind about it though was how bad a penalty miss it was - probably the worst I've ever seen!
I do unfortunately remember Ronny Godlass going down our right side and putting in a peach of cross for Latchford to nod in.
Now if only I could remember as clearly what I did yesterday as well as a football game I went to 35 years ago!
Really pleased my memory of the game prompted you to post.
I do hope you like it here with us and decide to stick around a while.
@Chipbutty my memory is not what it once was but I think he did - what stuck it my mind about it though was how bad a penalty miss it was - probably the worst I've ever seen!
I do unfortunately remember Ronny Godlass going down our right side and putting in a peach of cross for Latchford to nod in.
Now if only I could remember as clearly what I did yesterday as well as a football game I went to 35 years ago!
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