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421Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 14:13

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:"Honouring the referendum vote" is an oxymoron. The leave campaign was the most dishonest and corrupt campaign in recent British history. There is no honour in ignoring this and refusing a second referendum on whatever deal is finally agreed in parliament.

Congratulations, that's the 1,000,000th time you've used that phrase in 3 years.

Talk about a very broken record....

422Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 15:05

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
More to the point, the referendum vote cannot and will not ever be "honoured" because what was promised is and always was unrealistic and undeliverable, and all the stamping of feet and demanding "I want my Unicorn" in the world won't change that.

423Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:11

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Interesting article by the Daily Mail columnist Peter Oborne. He was a leading advocate of brexit but has now changed his mind and realised that leaving the EU will be a disaster. To give a couple of quotes:

Indirectly we will all be disadvantaged. The biggest and immediate losers, however, will be working-class people from England’s north-east, who are widely said to support Brexit. Some of them currently enjoy relatively well-paid and secure jobs thanks to foreign investment. A lot of those jobs will slowly vanish.

I can’t help noticing that those most vocal in advocating Brexit are two opposing camps. On the one hand traders in financial assets – in particular hedge-fund managers – relish the speculative opportunities created by Brexit volatility. The city state of Singapore is held up as one economic model. The United States is another. I cannot see that there is any popular desire for us to follow the business and employment cultures of such countries.

On the other side we have the far Left, which wants out of the European Union for the exact opposite reason. The Left sees the EU as a capitalist conspiracy because of the protections it offers for private property and the restraints against centralised economic power, in particular state aid. A very substantial faction around Jeremy Corbyn, including former members of the Communist Party, is looking forward to British departure from the EU because they rightly see that the EU prevents the imposition of socialism.

When hedge-fund managers and the Communist Party see eye-to-eye on any question, it’s time to be concerned.

A link to the full article below but I doubt many brexit fans on here will bother to read it.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/i-was-strong-brexiteer-now-we-must-swallow-our-pride-and-think-again/

424Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:19

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
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425Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:22

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
As always logic and facts are just to difficult for brexiteers to be able to handle. It might destroy their belief in magical thinking.

426Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:25

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
So I should read an article and change my mind about Brexit?

What a load of shite.

It's happening. Just accept it.

427Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:27

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
So what would make you change your mind?

428Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:37

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:So what would make you change your mind?

Nothing. Go and shove your articles up your arse and get over it!

429Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:41

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@karlypants wrote:
@xmiles wrote:So what would make you change your mind?

Nothing. Go and shove your articles up your arse and get over it!

The article has big words in it so you would probably struggle to understand it.

430Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:47

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:
@karlypants wrote:
@xmiles wrote:So what would make you change your mind?

Nothing. Go and shove your articles up your arse and get over it!

The article has big words in it so you would probably struggle to understand it.

You keep thinking that if it makes you happy. Wink

431Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 17:57

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:So what would make you change your mind?

Nothing.

No one knows the future. I firmly believe in the years to come it will turn out to be the best decision for the country.

432Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 19:13

T.R.O.Y


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@xmiles wrote:Interesting article by the Daily Mail columnist Peter Oborne. He was a leading advocate of brexit but has now changed his mind and realised that leaving the EU will be a disaster. To give a couple of quotes:

Indirectly we will all be disadvantaged. The biggest and immediate losers, however, will be working-class people from England’s north-east, who are widely said to support Brexit. Some of them currently enjoy relatively well-paid and secure jobs thanks to foreign investment. A lot of those jobs will slowly vanish.

I can’t help noticing that those most vocal in advocating Brexit are two opposing camps. On the one hand traders in financial assets – in particular hedge-fund managers – relish the speculative opportunities created by Brexit volatility. The city state of Singapore is held up as one economic model. The United States is another. I cannot see that there is any popular desire for us to follow the business and employment cultures of such countries.

On the other side we have the far Left, which wants out of the European Union for the exact opposite reason. The Left sees the EU as a capitalist conspiracy because of the protections it offers for private property and the restraints against centralised economic power, in particular state aid. A very substantial faction around Jeremy Corbyn, including former members of the Communist Party, is looking forward to British departure from the EU because they rightly see that the EU prevents the imposition of socialism.

When hedge-fund managers and the Communist Party see eye-to-eye on any question, it’s time to be concerned.

A link to the full article below but I doubt many brexit fans on here will bother to read it.

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/opendemocracyuk/i-was-strong-brexiteer-now-we-must-swallow-our-pride-and-think-again/

What a clown, how did he envisage this scenario unfolding? Complete idiocy.

433Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 20:03

okocha

okocha
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly
".....Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest......." Paul Simon. ("The Boxer")

No one likes to be proved wrong and most prefer to close their minds to alternative views, often resorting to abuse and petulance rather than using cold reason or convincing experience in their arguments. But there can be no certainty here.

As Nat says, no one knows for sure how things will pan out. We either have trust or we don't.....much like faith in God. 

In retrospect, the only sane thing to do in 2016 was to abstain because we had no idea what would be the right path based on the contradictions we were being fed.   I'm pretty sure that would also be the case if we had a second referendum now.

It would be great to be able to trust our elected politicians to be able to negotiate successfully and to do what is right, but they have proved themselves no wiser or more honest or any more able than the rest of us.

434Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sat Apr 13 2019, 21:43

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Brexiteers strong fearless adventurers, Remainers cowards pussies.

435Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 00:30

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Angry Dad wrote:Brexiteers weak workshy backward-looking parochial chickens frightened of foreigners and their own shadow, Remainers brave forward-looking pioneers prepared to take on the difficult job of building a new fairer and united world.
That's more like it.

436Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 00:33

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@wanderlust wrote:
@Angry Dad wrote:Brexiteers weak workshy backward-looking parochial chickens frightened of foreigners and their own shadow, Remainers brave forward-looking pioneers prepared to take on the difficult job of building a new fairer and united world.
That's more like it.

Laughing

437Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 10:14

Buellix

Buellix
David Ngog
David Ngog
Around 75% of MP's wanted to remain, how did anyone expect them to manage the exit?

No religion to my name, my politics are what suits me at the time no affiliation to any party.

I work in what many would say is a high tech industry, and for me and my work to exit would be a disaster as the company I work for would certainly relocate and that would move me even further from my beloved Wanderers.
Although if Parkinson remains in the job then that is no hardship.

438Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 12:23

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
She will be gone by the end of the month if not next week. Both main parties are finished there's a new guy in town.

439Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 13:06

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Who's that then?

440Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 13:16

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Mr Bean.

441Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 13:18

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@xmiles wrote:So what would make you change your mind?

Nothing.

No one knows the future. I firmly believe in the years to come it will turn out to be the best decision for the country.

We aren't leaving though.

But we are losing a billion pounds a week.

Struggling to see any upside.

442Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 17:38

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
God you really are such a boring tosser.

You used to be a good poster once upon a time.

443Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 18:42

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:You used to be a good poster once upon a time.

I'll need proof.

444Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Sun Apr 14 2019, 19:02

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:You used to be a good poster once upon a time.

I'll need proof.

Hmm............................................Very Happy

445Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Apr 15 2019, 01:10

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:God you really are such a boring tosser.
True, but it's an upgrade on your input. Although TBF "Ref Watch" is riveting and by far your best work. 

And it's only the missus who gets to call me God, so leave it out. You can call me "Sir" if you insist on flattery.

446Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Apr 15 2019, 01:12

wanderlust


Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:You used to be a good poster once upon a time.

I'll need proof.
The poster is on KP's bedroom wall if you'd like to appraise it.

447Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Apr 15 2019, 11:16

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
I didn't think things could be worse than Theresa May and the Tories but there is something worse .....it's David Lammy and the Jew hating Labour party, what an obnoxious twat he is, Corbyn,Abbott,Lammy and Cooper what a fucking horror show.

448Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Apr 15 2019, 12:56

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Lammy is a piece of work what a hate filled  white hating hysterical bag of shite.

449Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Apr 15 2019, 14:58

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Brexit negotiations - Page 15 _1064510
Should I resign now, or give  it until Christmas?

450Brexit negotiations - Page 15 Empty Re: Brexit negotiations on Mon Apr 15 2019, 15:19

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@wanderlust wrote:
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@karlypants wrote:You used to be a good poster once upon a time.

I'll need proof.
The poster is on KP's bedroom wall if you'd like to appraise it.

Nah the one of your 3 way which included Juncker and Donald Tusk went in the bin!

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