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Derby County: Championship club file notice to appoint administrators
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58604851
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Ten Bobsworth wrote:Not entirely surprised by this, Sluffy. I'd taken a shufti at Derby's accounts on a few occasions. Do you remember the tale of the three amigos. That was really interesting.
Not much sign of questionable accounting at BWFC other than the glossing over of certain transactions related to the Holdsworth/Anderson dispute. Isn't it interesting though how the Guardian, the Beeno and the ST never showed any interest in how much went to Holdsworth or how much he cost the club?
I'm not sure I'd agree with all that analysis, Sluffy. There was a track record of failed companies but tbf the failures didn't seem to be akin to the three amigos activities.Sluffy wrote:
Thanks Bob, I'd never bothered much with other clubs so I hadn't known about the three amigos but have since read this (link below) that explains all about them - but more interestingly to me - why our ST obviously saw similarities to Anderson and took the opportunity to set themselves up and tried, so, so hard, to bring him down and get get control of the club for themselves.
Remember the ST was formed AFTER the time Trevor Birch took over from Phil Gartside and seemingly were led to believe by Birch they were going to get the club by becoming the preferred bidder.
Clearly that wasn't what Eddie Davies wanted!
Reading the article though and its references to Chesterfield and Portsmouth, I now begin to see why Birch clearly thought ST's seemed to be a more 'honest' route out of Admin for such football clubs.
He clearly didn't know our leading ST founders with a series of companies they own struck off at Companies House, which were more reminiscent of the three amigos past history.
Seems to me our ST saw a second bite of the cherry when Holdsworth got the club and spun a tale about Anderson - neglecting to mention his murky BluMarble deal and the how he pocketed a considerable sum out of it before what was left found its way into the club accounts - and why Anderson relationship with Holdsworth was poisoned from that point on.
Iles clearly believe Holdsworth and the ST and clearly didn't bother doing any fact checking to see if it was all true that he was being told by them!
So we have Holdsworth with his murky BluMarble dealings, want to be owners by the ST founders and numpty Iles on one side and all saying Anderson was the baddie in this - which it turns out now - he wasn't!
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/jul/22/david-conn-derby-county
Ten Bobsworth wrote:I'm not sure I'd agree with all that analysis, Sluffy. There was a track record of failed companies but tbf the failures didn't seem to be akin to the three amigos activities.
I also know of no evidence that Holdsworth snaffled 20% of the £5million. I rather doubt that there ever was £5m at all. I believe Blumarble advanced only £4million but took security for £5million to cover interest and costs they might incur in trying to get their money back.
I expect Eddie agreed to that and also agreed to put up another £2.5m. I very much doubt that any of the money was ever Holdsworth's or Anderson's.
Iles imo was guilty of wilful blindness. Consumed with his vendetta against Anderson, he didn't want to know the facts or publish them. Anderson plainly had no time for Iles or the ST and I expect he would have made that clear in no uncertain terms.
I don't really know what Trevor Birch thought but if he ever thought the ST was credible, I doubt Eddie would have agreed with him.
Everything you've ever read about all this in the media seems to me to be riddled with prejudice and incompetence with a few dollops of untruth chucked into the pot for good measure.
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There was nothing at all to criticise Quantuma for at Bolton so far as I could see, Sluffy. They seemed to get the Bolton Whites Hotel appointment because they'd done a decent job for Blumarble.Sluffy wrote:Just for interest - Derby have gone into Admin now - have a 12 points penalty and have the same administrators as Anderson used -
Andrew Hosking, Carl Jackson and Andrew Andronikou, managing directors at business advisory firm Quantuma, have been appointed joint administrators.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58649432
Derby update. pic.twitter.com/S6L4jQBExX
— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) October 3, 2021
Good on 'im but how come Nicko's always first to the ball?Sluffy wrote:Paul Aldridge helping out at Derby according to Nixon -Derby update. pic.twitter.com/S6L4jQBExX
— Alan Nixon (@reluctantnicko) October 3, 2021
wanderlust wrote:There are early signs that Burnley might be in trouble too.
Apparently Pace etc only fronted £30 million of their own money but borrowed £90 million and still owe the previous owner Garlick for his shares - and they've defaulted on the payments.
With relegation staring them in the face it looks like the money they got for Chris Woods won't be spent on a replacement and questions are emerging about the new owner's intentions.
The Burnley takeover never did make sense so far as I could see. Have they got a Supporters Trust to step in like us?
EFL has no plans to expel #dcfc from League despite administrators missing yesterday's deadline to prove funding. Admins are still assessing bids, not said anything for 10days.
— Rob Dorsett (@RobDorsettSky) March 1, 2022
I’ve been told Derby have cash for player wages and club expenses for a few weeks, but not beyond that.
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