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Terrorism Or Suicide?

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1Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 14:31

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

It has been announced that the co-pilot of the crashed Germanwings plane almost certainly committed suicide, taking the passengers and crew with him. The voice box from the plane confirms the pilot had been locked out of the cockpit by the co-pilot.

After 9/11, they made cockpits impregnable. It keeps the terrorists out, but in the end it also allows someone to keep their colleagues out too.

So what should we be more scared of, terrorists getting into the cockpit of a plane or some suicidal pilot taking out his woes on innocent passengers?

Will you ever feel safe flying again?

2Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 14:33

Guest


Guest

i absolutely hate flying anyway, and with all that's been going on with planes magically disappearing and the rest of it, i'll never fly again

3Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 14:33

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

In terms of planes probably neither as both are pretty rare.

in general obviously terrorism because It's far more widespread. 

I don't know this guys motives yet but obviously he had serious serious problems that went untreated.

4Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 14:34

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Hipster_Nebula wrote:

I don't know this guys motives yet but obviously he had serious serious problems that went untreated.

Yes, we should feel sorry for him :facepalm:

5Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 14:35

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Natasha Whittam wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:

I don't know this guys motives yet but obviously he had serious serious problems that went untreated.

Yes, we should feel sorry for him :facepalm:

eh? where did I say that? I'm saying we don't know whether it was a terrorist act or suicide.

6Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 14:41

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

if the fella wants to kill himself, fine but why take out 150 innocent people as well? And if it turns out he was having mental health issues why was this not picked up by his employers?

7Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:03

Jake McHale

Jake McHale
Tony Kelly
Tony Kelly

Natasha Whittam wrote:It has been announced that the co-pilot of the crashed Germanwings plane almost certainly committed suicide, taking the passengers and crew with him. The voice box from the plane confirms the pilot had been locked out of the cockpit by the co-pilot.

After 9/11, they made cockpits impregnable. It keeps the terrorists out, but in the end it also allows someone to keep their colleagues out too.

So what should we be more scared of, terrorists getting into the cockpit of a plane or some suicidal pilot taking out his woes on innocent passengers?

Will you ever feel safe flying again?
Thanks for that.

8Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:09

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Plot twist, the pilot was a terrorist

9Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:15

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Mr Spohr said Mr Lubitz's training had been interrupted briefly six years ago but was resumed after "the suitability of the candidate was re-established".

Interesting...

10Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:16

Copper Dragon

Copper Dragon
Ivan Campo
Ivan Campo

If every passenger was armed with a gun this kind of thing wouldn't happen.

11Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:19

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

There is an emergency code the pilot locked out of the cockpit could have entered to open the door. Why he didn't enter it is my question.

12Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:23

Reebok_Rebel

Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Shit, that's hard hitting stuff. 
Its a shame when anyone feels the need to end their own life, but fucking hell, to take nearly 200 innocent people with you is totally beyond words. If there is a hell, problems or not, I hope this pilot is in the deepest, darkest depths of it. 
Id go as far to say its actually pre-meditated mass murder.

13Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:24

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Is that true? Sounds like a bit of a security risk if it is. 

and to keep up that rouse he'd have had to have killed or done something to the co pilot which would be heard on the recording.

14Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:38

scottjames30

scottjames30
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

They should have someone with a fire arm on every flight.

15Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:40

Guest


Guest

scottjames30 wrote:They should have someone with a fire arm on every flight.
Terrorism Or Suicide? Flame-fire-tribal-tattoo-m

16Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:47

Boggersbelief

Boggersbelief
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

scottjames30 wrote:They should have someone with a fire arm on every flight.

But what if that person has mental health issues or is a secret terrorist?

17Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:49

Reebok_Rebel

Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

Hipster_Nebula wrote:Is that true? Sounds like a bit of a security risk if it is. 

and to keep up that rouse he'd have had to have killed or done something to the co pilot which would be heard on the recording.
Its was an airbus - it has a crew of 2.

18Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:50

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

Reebok_Rebel wrote:
Hipster_Nebula wrote:Is that true? Sounds like a bit of a security risk if it is. 

and to keep up that rouse he'd have had to have killed or done something to the co pilot which would be heard on the recording.
Its was an airbus - it has a crew of 2.

My reply was to boggers post about the emergency code. sorry.

19Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:50

observer


Andy Walker
Andy Walker

Boggersbelief wrote:There is an emergency code the pilot locked out of the cockpit could have entered to open the door. Why he didn't enter it is my question.
He was locked out by another switch in the cockpit that the co-pilot must have activated.

20Terrorism Or Suicide? Empty Re: Terrorism Or Suicide? Thu Mar 26 2015, 15:51

Reebok_Rebel

Reebok_Rebel
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington

scottjames30 wrote:They should have someone with a fire arm on every flight.
They do on some transatlantic flights... 
However, since sep 11, all cockpit doors are armored and thus bulletproof. 
The trolley dolly used to have keys but again, to prevent highjacking - they dont anymore.

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