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If this forum is a barometer of anything, then it was quite noticeable the change we saw when Boris climbed to the top of the greasy pole by linking up with Cummings and against the odds (and common sense) won the Brexit referendum.
It was the first time I'd notice real anger and hatred on here and a clear divide and unbridled aggression to those who took opposite views on the outcome particularly those who wanted to remain.
That anger and hatred grew even more when Boris overthrew May and triumphed in the election with an 80 seat majority.
From then on the unacceptable became the norm both in Johnson's behaviour and from one or two on here - in Johnson's case the illegal closing of Parliament, the tragic and harmful to the economy for many years to come of the botched Brexit agreement with the EU, and the unworkable NI Protocol that Boris forced through - just in order to say 'he got it done'!
From the on it has been a catalogue of lies, deceit, the wilful breaking of rules, norms and standards - and of defending the indefensible (the latest and one that finally brought him down - 'I forgot he was a well known and active, sex pest'.
!).
Now that he's gone (sort of anyway) will things get back to something like normal - for instance meaningful negotiations over NI, the end of the Rwanda experiment, closer ties with the EU - and more honesty, public standards, a return of morals and ethics, people 'doing the right thing' when it is required of them?
I guess a great deal depends on who the next PM is - the likes of Truss, Patel, and other close 'Borisistas' will no doubt not change much if anything policy wise but are the more likely to be voted in by the good folk of the 'shires' when they get the final say in the leadership election (don't forget is was THEM who voted for Boris and not Hunt to be PM) but I'm hoping for someone much less tainted from close proximity to Johnson to spring a surprise and win -I'm not sure that will really happen though.
So is the worst of the fuck you that we've endured for the last 3 or 4 years attitude finally ended at No 10 or will it be business as what is now considered 'as usual'?
What do you think?
What do you want for the future?
Starmer in No 10 perhaps (if Durham police haven't nailed him!)
It was the first time I'd notice real anger and hatred on here and a clear divide and unbridled aggression to those who took opposite views on the outcome particularly those who wanted to remain.
That anger and hatred grew even more when Boris overthrew May and triumphed in the election with an 80 seat majority.
From then on the unacceptable became the norm both in Johnson's behaviour and from one or two on here - in Johnson's case the illegal closing of Parliament, the tragic and harmful to the economy for many years to come of the botched Brexit agreement with the EU, and the unworkable NI Protocol that Boris forced through - just in order to say 'he got it done'!
From the on it has been a catalogue of lies, deceit, the wilful breaking of rules, norms and standards - and of defending the indefensible (the latest and one that finally brought him down - 'I forgot he was a well known and active, sex pest'.
!).
Now that he's gone (sort of anyway) will things get back to something like normal - for instance meaningful negotiations over NI, the end of the Rwanda experiment, closer ties with the EU - and more honesty, public standards, a return of morals and ethics, people 'doing the right thing' when it is required of them?
I guess a great deal depends on who the next PM is - the likes of Truss, Patel, and other close 'Borisistas' will no doubt not change much if anything policy wise but are the more likely to be voted in by the good folk of the 'shires' when they get the final say in the leadership election (don't forget is was THEM who voted for Boris and not Hunt to be PM) but I'm hoping for someone much less tainted from close proximity to Johnson to spring a surprise and win -I'm not sure that will really happen though.
So is the worst of the fuck you that we've endured for the last 3 or 4 years attitude finally ended at No 10 or will it be business as what is now considered 'as usual'?
What do you think?
What do you want for the future?
Starmer in No 10 perhaps (if Durham police haven't nailed him!)
NO.
