Who do you want to be our new manager?

doffcocker wrote:

What gloswhite is asking is why do we need somebody with League One experience as opposed to Championship experience or even PL experience.

Are the rules different in League One? Is it 8 a side?

But more to the point, how many managers get brought to clubs because they so called "know this league", and end up making a complete mess anyway? Just look at Adkins, twice got clubs promoted from League One - probably just the sort of experience you're going on about - yet clearly doing a crappy job at Sheff Utd.

Let's be honest, people bang on about experience, but it's just verbal diarrhoea.

okocha wrote:Two (probably highly unrealistic!) ideas:- The Neville brothers: Boltonians, experienced, bright, knowledgeable, articulate, good with the media. Cost?

Steve Claridge: who knows more about lower league football than him? Talks a good game and is very personable, enthusiastic, passionate and persuasive. Hard to prise him away from TV duties?? Cost?  Managerial experience?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

doffcocker wrote:

What gloswhite is asking is why do we need somebody with League One experience as opposed to Championship experience or even PL experience.

Are the rules different in League One? Is it 8 a side?

But more to the point, how many managers get brought to clubs because they so called "know this league", and end up making a complete mess anyway? Just look at Adkins, twice got clubs promoted from League One - probably just the sort of experience you're going on about - yet clearly doing a crappy job at Sheff Utd.

Let's be honest, people bang on about experience, but it's just verbal diarrhoea.

You utter gobshite.

It's about knowing the players in League 1 and 2. The players that few people have heard of but you know they can do a job at that level.

doffcocker wrote:
So we can only attract decent players from League 1 and 2 clubs if we have a manager who's worked at those levels before?

luckyPeterpiper wrote:

doffcocker wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

gloswhite wrote:Don't be an arse Nat. You know what I mean, or maybe you don't actually know ?

I genuinely have no idea what you were getting at.

And don't call me an arse, you bellend.

What gloswhite is asking is why do we need somebody with League One experience as opposed to Championship experience or even PL experience.

Are the rules different in League One? Is it 8 a side?

But more to the point, how many managers get brought to clubs because they so called "know this league", and end up making a complete mess anyway? Just look at Adkins, twice got clubs promoted from League One - probably just the sort of experience you're going on about - yet clearly doing a crappy job at Sheff Utd.

Let's be honest, people bang on about experience, but it's just verbal diarrhoea.

No but the type of football played in the lower reaches is very different. It takes a lot more in terms of skill than people might think to get promoted from there but it mostly takes a lot of fight and the tackling is much harder. There's a different sort of mindset that you just don't see in the top two divisions, much less in the way of diving etc and referees tend to be more lenient towards defenders. In some ways League One is what division two used to be like in the pre-premiership era. It's got some nice football but it's mostly about who wants the win most. Managers who are used to seeing flair players get a penalty because they tripped over a long blade of grass don't tend to do well down there while those who are into grit and strength do. 

Oddly enough L1 is probably made to order for a Megson type manager, one who wants a rock solid defence that never concedes and a team that nicks wins on the break. I'm not saying there is no skill at all, far from it but the sort of tiki-taka stuff that the upper reaches like Barca and Bayern play just doesn't work down here. It's an older fashioned sort of football and it needs a manager who knows when and how to mix the physical and skill sides of the game in a different way to those of the top two tiers.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

doffcocker wrote:
So we can only attract decent players from League 1 and 2 clubs if we have a manager who's worked at those levels before?

No, but on our budget it will be the players that aren't universally known to be "decent" that will end up here. An experienced lower league manager will have a better chance of sussing out the ones who might be half decent.

Stop fooking arguing anyway, Lennon has already proved my point. No experience of Championship football and has bought donkey after donkey.