Nuts EU Referendum - How will you be voting?

gloswhite wrote:

xmiles wrote:What abuse?

If you are happy supporting Farage and co and read the Daily Mail that's up to you.

Don't be childish

gloswhite wrote:Guys, I don't mind discussing the various aspects of the referendum, but felt there was some bullying and personal abuse going on, that wasn't necessary. I've just read through the rest of the thread, and it seems that things are quietening down, so, hopefully, its back to business as usual.
Where do we start ? (maybe a new thread ?)
I believe that negotiations should begin with the EU after we have a cross-party negotiating team in place, which is separate from day-to-day politics. However, I also believe that the head of the Government, (the Conservatives for now), should be drawn from the Leave camp. We shouldn't instigate rule 50 until we have the new PM and negotiating team in place, although initial consultations with the EU team should take place asap.

bwfc1874 wrote: Whoever the new leader is must secure a mandate.

bwfc1874 wrote:

gloswhite wrote:Guys, I don't mind discussing the various aspects of the referendum, but felt there was some bullying and personal abuse going on, that wasn't necessary. I've just read through the rest of the thread, and it seems that things are quietening down, so, hopefully, its back to business as usual.
Where do we start ? (maybe a new thread ?)
I believe that negotiations should begin with the EU after we have a cross-party negotiating team in place, which is separate from day-to-day politics. However, I also believe that the head of the Government, (the Conservatives for now), should be drawn from the Leave camp. We shouldn't instigate rule 50 until we have the new PM and negotiating team in place, although initial consultations with the EU team should take place asap.

Although I've steered away from insulting anyone myself, the 'abuse' on this thread is far tamer than it could be given the level of emotion surrounding this issue. I think we've all done pretty well to stay on topic to be honest. 

As I mentioned last night it's not bullying to question somebody's views when they're put across so vociferously - in fact I think it's important to do so.

Back on point, I think you're spot on a cross party negotiation team has to be appointed. The right wingers that drove the leave campaign cannot be allowed to decide the terms on which our future depends. 

We also need a general election, the terms of the Tories win last year have completely changed. Whoever the new leader is must secure a mandate.

Breadman wrote:For the record, I didn't launch a personal attack on KP's mrs.

I merely pointed out the inherent irony of Nuts' most vocal proponent of the "Let's leave the EU and take back control of our borders to stop immigrants coming in" brigade being married to a foreigner who now lives in England.

This, after he'd referred to myself and another contributor, as "a pair of tits" whose genuine questions regarding his hopes for the future weren't worth answering.

If you're going to play at being a moderator, you need to understand that the big red "Ban" button comes with certain expectations and responsibilities.

Backing yourself into a corner intellectually and then seeing your arse because you can't come up with a valid counterpoint to other peoples' position on any given subject isn't a viable reason for abusing your power.

The Leave campaign are quick to throw stones at the Brussels political elite for (in their erroneous opinion) abusing their power to serve their own agenda, but it would appear that they're only too happy to conduct themselves in a similar manner.

Fucking laughable.

And I want a full and frank apology.

Sluffy wrote:

Breadman wrote:For the record, I didn't launch a personal attack on KP's mrs.

I merely pointed out the inherent irony of Nuts' most vocal proponent of the "Let's leave the EU and take back control of our borders to stop immigrants coming in" brigade being married to a foreigner who now lives in England.

This, after he'd referred to myself and another contributor, as "a pair of tits" whose genuine questions regarding his hopes for the future weren't worth answering.

If you're going to play at being a moderator, you need to understand that the big red "Ban" button comes with certain expectations and responsibilities.

Backing yourself into a corner intellectually and then seeing your arse because you can't come up with a valid counterpoint to other peoples' position on any given subject isn't a viable reason for abusing your power.

The Leave campaign are quick to throw stones at the Brussels political elite for (in their erroneous opinion) abusing their power to serve their own agenda, but it would appear that they're only too happy to conduct themselves in a similar manner.

Fucking laughable.

And I want a full and frank apology.

I'm sorry you are upset.

As you all know the lads who run the site do it for free, in their own time and pay for the site out of their own pocket simply for a bit of fun.

We don't get anything out of it other than the laughs we share amongst ourselves and from those who share our sense of fun on Nuts.

When I say we don't get anything out of it, that isn't exactly true because we do from time to time have to put up with all sorts of shite which I think most will agree we do rather well.

We aren't though perfect and one of the few things we won't tolerate is when other people drag our family in to score some sort of a point or other against us on a public forum read by who knows whom.

They may have a valid point or not but it has become far, far to personal for what is after all just an internet argument between people who have never even met in real life.

If people consider it abuse of power to terminate such infringements into our private family life, then we have abused our power and no doubt will abuse again if anybody starts to become personal about our family.

If you want to have a pop at us then feel free to do so but keep our nearest and dearest out of it.

I think that is a reasonable view from us and I would like to think must others would agree with that also.

Breadman wrote:Thanks me.

I knew we'd see it the same way as we did.

Boggersbelief wrote:Cracks beginning to show in the bum chum elite