T.R.O.Y. wrote:I’ve cycled since I moved to London (about 7 years now). Less so since COVID as I don’t have to go to the office everyday. I tend to follow the rules, unless I hit a red light and there’s no traffic or pedestrians (normally late at night) and I know the roads well. You’re all right though many cyclists don’t and charge through regardless.
I don’t see Mr Loophole’s solution as offering any value though, we need to encourage more people to cycle not creating barriers to doing so. Jumping red lights is a violation so the please need to start enforcing it, it would soon stop. A bit like masks on tubes it’s been getting less and less common since summer then Omicron kicks off and there are staff at stations reminding commuters to wear them and now 99% are wearing again.
Enforce the existing rules before creating new ones.
It isn't that simple.
It's all down to resources, priority and punishment.
You simply can't have a policeman / police woman on every on every street corner just in case...
You arrest them or give them a warning or fixed penalty then what - lock them up / they say they won't do it again / they never pay the penalty.
What about people not wearing their masks in Morrisons, or driving without insurance, or knife crime?
Where do you use best use the police resources we have?
Clearly riding a cycle where people shouldn't is low down on the list.
And I don't think anyone could disagree with that.
I happened to be in the police station the other month (not a regular occurrence I assure you) and there was a south Asian gentleman raging to the desk officer for some considerable time - so much so that in the end I walked out and called back another day.
His story - which everybody there heard - was the previous night he was stopped a short distance away from where some crime had just been committed and asked by a policeman to identify himself as he fitted the description of the person they were looking for.
Apparently he refused to (which I understand is your right) and decided to walk away despite the officers asking him not to. In the end it seems they arrested him for not cooperating and only unrested him when he finally did (I don't know the technicalities in all this but that's how I was understanding things).
He was in the station when I arrived and was banging on and on about it for at least twenty minutes or more before I gave up and left.
It seems like he believed the police had acted beyond their powers and were simply being racist.
The desk officer had the patience of a saint as he was accused by the man of being racist himself and being screamed at for long periods of time.
The desk officer explained the law to him (multiple times) and advised him of the police complaints procedure (multiple times too).
I'm not sure what the bloke ultimately wanted the desk officer to do - other than what he did.
I don't know the ending as I left because the bloke - even if he had a good case - was acting totally unreasonably and certainly verbally aggressively.
My point to this tale is the police have to deal with all sorts, and not everybody is reasonable and helpful to them at times - and takes up resources and manpower.
Could the bloke just have said yes officer here's my id, I live at number 1 High Street and I'd be happy to help you with your enquires, of course he could but for his own reasons he didn't and carried on the same way the next day at the police station.
People are people, maybe it's the 100th time the bloke had been stopped, I don't know but what does he achieve by venting to the desk officer the next day?
It is what it is and we have to accept it and make the best of it we can.
Some cyclist can be annoying but in really isn't the end of the world if they are - is it?