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661Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Thu Mar 26 2020, 23:38

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Scandalous story on Newsnight re Government response to British ventilator manufacturers.

662Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Thu Mar 26 2020, 23:50

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Interesting strategy re Government support for self - employed.
The support package is based on a percentage of declared profits - as measured by tax returns, so tax dodgers will get next to nothing. One thing I do know about the self-employed is that they in turn employ an army of accountants to minimise tax paid, so on the one hand it's a smart move from the Government.
But on the other, a lot of smaller businesses are likely to pack it in and lay off staff if they have any - so it could prove more expensive in the long run. There are over 5 million microbusinesses (<10 staff) in the UK - that's 95% of all UK businesses.

Whilst the moral standpoint is to be applauded, the reality may well bite them in the bum. Personally I think it's naive short-termism.

Wonder if they'll release stats on new unemployment benefit claims?

663Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 08:30

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@wanderlust wrote:Interesting strategy re Government support for self - employed.
The support package is based on a percentage of declared profits - as measured by tax returns, so tax dodgers will get next to nothing.

Smile

664Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 09:48

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Cajun, just keep going mate. Its a horrible situation to be put in. To be honest, I'm surprised that they have stopped treatment across the board, although I suspect they will continue with those patients whose treatment has reached a critical point. So bear in mind that this doesn't include yourself, and take heart from it.

665Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 10:25

okocha

okocha
Andy Walker
Andy Walker

666Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 10:30

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Keep well Cajun.

If I'd believed in God I would have said a little prayer for you too!

(Unfortunately I don't).

Fwiw I do believe in staying positive and sensible and I'm sure you will get through it with your loved ones as well.



667Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 10:56

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
"We didn't get the email" doesn't really wash does it? 
To paraphrase David Ginola they don't think we're worth it.
But for me the bigger crime is for a Government that was elected on the promise to make Britain stronger outside the EU, is their failure to back British manufacturers.Instead we were forced to watch substandard 3M American PPE products being delivered to our hospitals on the news as the Government turn to the big foreign corporates. I wouldn't mind so much but the chances of Brexit happening by the latest of many deadlines is next to zero, so we've been left in limbo and disadvantaged in our future recovery.
No wonder Labour are asking why the Government changed their story.
Corbyn may have picked the wrong time to say it  but he has a fair point about the lack of Government investment in the state over the last ten years.
I'm happy to volunteer to help out the NHS, but I only wish it wasn't already on it's knees before the virus struck.

668Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 11:23

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Boris has tested positive.

669Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 11:32

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@boltonbonce wrote:Boris has tested positive.

Maybe they will ask retired Prime Ministers to return to work...

670Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 12:34

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Sluffy wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:Boris has tested positive.

Maybe they will ask retired Prime Ministers to return to work...


May did such a great job too!

671Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 13:02

Sluffy

Sluffy
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Interesting article about the probable spread of the virus because of a football match.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11251491/atalanta-valencia-biological-bomb-infected-fans-coronavirus-italy-mayor-bergamo/

672Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 14:05

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:Boris has tested positive.
For what? Ergophobia?

673Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 14:06

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Matt Hancock has tested positive too!

674Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 14:07

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:Boris has tested positive.

Maybe they will ask retired Prime Ministers to return to work...


May did such a great job too!

Thanks for the laugh! Very Happy

675Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 14:23

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@Sluffy wrote:Interesting article about the probable spread of the virus because of a football match.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11251491/atalanta-valencia-biological-bomb-infected-fans-coronavirus-italy-mayor-bergamo/
There was a report on Sky news late last night about this game and an interview with the Italian doctor who advised their Government to go into lockdown. He said the worst thing about it was the politicians' unwillingness to listen to his warnings.
He was asked about the UK and said he was horrified when he saw the images of people packed on the Underground in London.
When asked about our prospects he said that our Government should have clamped down weeks ago as they had all the information about what was happening on the ground in Italy. 
It's a stark reminder that if one infected person infects an average of just 3 others, it will spread to 60,000 people after just 10 encounters so goodness knows how many folk were put at risk and will die unnecessarily.
At least our lot started to take it seriously eventually  - but you have to feel for the Americans whose Government is an even bigger joke.

676Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 14:25

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
I knew Mike Ashley is a dick but this is appalling.

677Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 14:26

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
James May is another selfish tosspot who can't stick to the rules after being photographed at a pub with friends having a pint.

678Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 14:28

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@karlypants wrote:James May is another selfish tosspot who can't stick to the rules after being photographed at a pub with friends having a pint.
Wonder how he'll feel if he kills his mum?

679Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 15:48

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Thanks for all your kind wishes.

Something to make us all feel better.

680Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 15:51

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Not sure about the song, but those girls make me feel better.

681Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 16:31

gloswhite

gloswhite
Jay Jay Okocha
Jay Jay Okocha
Have to say i really enjoyed that. Thanks Cajun.

682Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 17:06

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
Cheers.

683Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 20:50

BoltonTillIDie

BoltonTillIDie
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@boltonbonce wrote:Boris has tested positive.
God knows why 

684Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 21:11

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@BoltonTillIDie wrote:
@boltonbonce wrote:Boris has tested positive.
God knows why 


He should have practiced what he preached!

685Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 21:11

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Is this a step too far?

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Is anyone doing this with their food?

686Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 21:29

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

As if we don't have enough going on with this bloody virus that some arsehole does this.

Edit: I don't mean you Boncey. Very Happy

687Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Fri Mar 27 2020, 22:39

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Cajunboy wrote:Thanks for all your kind wishes.

Something to make us all feel better.

Never heard of them but I enjoyed that. Smile

I have just been listening to some of their music on YouTube. Very impressive. Their versions of Suite Judy Blue Eyes and Harvest Moon are particularly good.

688Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sat Mar 28 2020, 01:54

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Only in America....


"The attorney general of Texas on Friday issued a legal opinion deeming gun stores "essential services" during the pandemic - firearm shops across the US have reported soaring sales thanks to Covid-19"

689Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sat Mar 28 2020, 13:12

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Eight people were found chomping away on kebabs at Snake Pass in the Peak District on Thursday by horrified officers...

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690Coronavirus - will we survive? - Page 23 Empty Re: Coronavirus - will we survive? on Sat Mar 28 2020, 15:12

wanderlust

wanderlust
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Just did some rough numbers on the effect of social distancing and I reckon we'll know within a few weeks.
Basically there's no point in looking at the number of people who "have it" as that's a function of the amount of testing, but deaths - if accurately recorded and ascribed - are indicative.

So the number of UK deaths per day currently is doubling every 4 days according to the Ministry. If you look at the 180 on Friday and assume it doubles 8 times in a month it equates to 46,000 a month from now.

If social distancing does it's job that should start to kick in next week if not sooner.

Yesterday....

The number of people to have died with the coronavirus in the UK has reached 1,019.
The latest government figures  on Saturday showed there were another 260 deaths in the UK in a day, up from 759 on Friday.
There are now 17,089 confirmed cases in the UK.
It comes as the government said it was ramping up testing for frontline hospital staff who have symptoms, or who live with people who have symptoms.
Critical care doctors and nurses will be prioritised first, with testing expected to follow for A&E staff, paramedics and GPs. 
In Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, health workers are already being tested.
The jump in deaths is the biggest day-on-day increase the UK since the outbreak began. The number of deaths is 34% higher than higher than Friday's figure.
The new figures include a further 246 people in England, with patients aged between 33 and 100 years old. All of them had underlying health conditions except 13 people, who were aged 63 and over.
In Scotland, 40 people have died so far in total, while the figure in Wales is 38. Northern Ireland has seen a total of 15 deaths.

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