Norpig wrote:Yes since you ask, i like to go dogging on Scout Road most evenings which is how i met your wife. I did tell her not to let the cat out of the bag but her mind was on other things at the time.
Really is there any need at at all to bring other peoples loved ones into this???
Bob, I can't speak for Norpig or anyone else but I worked in the public sector for going on thirty years, so was paid out of the public purse too. I saw plenty of skiving going on (I'm sure it goes on in the private sector too) by my philosophy for myself and for my staff was that of 'give and take' in that I never expected anyone, including myself, to work every minute of every day we were at work but I expected the jobs to be done on time, and correctly and that when the chips were down, to work well beyond their contracted hours willingly and not for overtime.
As always some took the piss but by and large the public purse got more out of my staff and I than what they paid for.
So I took time out to do personal things, came in late or went home earlier on occasions and allowed my staff to do the same when we were up to date with everything and times were quiet.
Was I a skiver, by definition yes but the work I was responsible was always delivered on time, complete and recognised for that as such.
To contrast that, I can think of two occasions going through my career where I had a bosses who were sticklers for punctuality, discipline and no flexibility. They got from me exactly that, no more no less and when it was 5.00pm I went home and left them to it, when I knew the answers and they didn't I let them find out for themselves, when they were on leave or sick, I didn't cover for them and so on, they got absolutely no good will from me, I stuck rigidly to what my duties were as per my contract and grading at that time.
I know which system of the two achieved the best results.
As you know I like sayings and the one that comes to mind is that 'you catch more flies with honey than vinegar'.
I've always found that if you treat people decently and as equals most will be fair back to you and give you help, treat people as idiots and beneath you then you'll end up on your own to sort the mess out.