T.R.O.Y. wrote:Sluffy wrote:If Boris and the Tory Government is so shit then why are they ahead in the latest polls by a clear 8 points?
YouGov poll from the 7th October (two days ago!!!)
Keir doesn't seem to have made much of an impact following conference then has he?
Hard to say but my view is there’s no credible alternative. I wouldn’t say the fact Johnson remains ahead in the polls is a sign of successful policy making, but they’re certainly winning the battle of PR and communication.
Tough to see a route back to power without a progressive alliance of sorts now, but can’t see Labour backing that any time soon.
As you’re keen to make the case, where do you think this government are succeeding in policy?
I'm not keen to make a case at all, I just post these things as a bit of realism to those who have it fixed firmly in their minds that all things Tory are shite.
One poster only a few posts above this one classifies the Conservative's collectively as "toerags", what sort of unbiased, impartial and independent reasoning is that?
I've mention more than a few times that it isn't the Tory government isn't particularly that good that warrants voters to vote for them but rather how poor the other party's are, in that they certainly wouldn't vote for them!
At this time it is hard to see who else could win an election other than the Conservatives - what alternative have people got?
In simple terms Labour has lost all their support (and thus their seats) in Scotland to the SNP and I can't ever see them ever winning an overall majority again without them being won back again and even then they would need to win back something like 50 or 60 of the seats they lost when the Red Wall came crashing down at the last election as well!!!
Would Labour ever go into a coalition with the SNP - well I can't see it, if for no other reason that they want independence and if the got it then Labour would be back to where they are now in terms of seats.
Hard to see where the Conservatives could lose a 78 seat majority - and even if they did that would still make them the largest party - and, as we have seen before, the Ulster Unionist's and before them the Lib Dems - have both gone in to a coalition with them to form the government.
Labour's only chance in my humble opinion is to present themselves as a viable alternative government - and they simply can't do that if they don't show what is in their hand they hold!
They were utterly shambolic over the NI increase and everyone saw that they were missing in action and bereft of an alternative (funded) policy to put against it.
I hear you about the Labour leadership keeping their policy 'powder dry' but if you hold a trump card in your hand then why not play it?
If the Conservatives ignored it and went ahead with their own unpopular policy, Labour could repeatedly beat them over the head with it every day until the election - and if they amended/took in, some or all of the Labour policy, then Labour would similarly again trumpet to the elections that the government was so poor as to need to adopt Labour policies to get them out of the mess they are in!
To put it bluntly, there is only one show in town - the Conservatives - that's why people will vote for them - there isn't any other viable choice - which is what you accept is the position too.
Labour needs a charismatic leader at the very least - they simply haven't got one, nor do I know of any apart from perhaps Burnham and personally I think he is a joke but others might not view him that way.
That's the reality of the situation as I see it - Johnson my be a buffoon but he is generally liked by most voters, and the Conservatives might well not have the best polices but no one is giving people the idea that they even got any, let alone any that are better!
That my friend is why the Conservatives carry an 8 point lead despite stumbling from crisis to crisis!
It all seems obvious to me, I can't understand why it isn't as obvious to many others as well?