From Despair To Where? wrote:We've had the Dale Vince rant but we're not interested. It's irrelevant to our situation. It came out of the blue so we all thought he'd had a breakdown. Our only "link" to Anderson is that he's allegedly advising one of the allegedly interested parties but, as you say, we're apparently all thick for not wanting to endlessly hear about him. He's like a spambot
As for our situation, we're hopeful rather than expectant that it will be resolved. Our owner seems intent on doing nothing, be it funding the club or selling up. He's already transferred the stadium and training ground out of club ownership and now trying to sell off the best players so he's trying to hold any prospective buyers to ransom. We know the buck stops with the club, or more specifically the owner and a sizeable section of the fanbase have been sceptical from day one; giving up PL contracts in the Championship, spending millions on un-necessary players, most of whom are represented by Kia Joorabchian who's "advising" him, so we're not looking for sympathy in that regard, we're just pissed off that 5 years on from yourselves and Bury, the EFL are still no closer to getting to grips with dealing with shit owners and this will keep happening somewhere until they do. Football is incapable of regulating itself. Cheers for the best wishes.
Thanks mate for all the background stuff.
I have actually followed your plight from a distance somewhat, because I've got a sort of professional background vaguely related to such things (I was a company secretary many moons ago, I'm long since retired) and also because Bolton went through similar stuff ourselves, so to some sort of extent I can see the situation from both sides of the fence - and from your reply you seem to have a solid understand what's going on too.
The only think I can add to what you've said is that it really is difficult for the EFL (or anyone else) to actually prove that someone is an unfit and unproperly person to own a company? All they can do in reality is to make any potential new owner show that their funding is from legitimate means - and if it is, then there's really not much they can do stop a club being sold to the various 'shady' characters.
For instance do we really believe Newcastle's 'owners' are shall we say fully in tune with western values..?
Do we really think the PL had the money and firepower to take them on in a court of law if they had firmly told them 'no' - look at how Man City's owners lawyers run rings around the PL in respect to their couple of hundred or so financial breeches (or how many there actually are) lodged against them?
Just look how quickly Everton were dealt with in contrast for instance - albeit both cases aren't like for like.
I don't know what the answer is, if indeed an answer actually exists - look at Wigan's position (the one before the last one!) where a Chinese (or maybe Honk Kong person - some country around there - no disrespect to anyone intended) where the owner bought the club put £20m or so into it from his own wealth and then for some reason known only to himself decided to simply and suddenly liquidate the club!
The owner was persuaded to put it into Administration (which was a prolonged agony for the Wigan fans) instead and eventually it was bought by some Qatari (I think it was?) who then promptly did more or less the same thing, putting in £20m or so of personal money then simply all but walking away from the club.
How can the EFL or anyone else prevent such things from happening in the future when money seems no object to the owner of a club and where £20m, £30m, or even hundred's of millions are inconsequential to them?
In theory I suppose the answer lies in community ownership - I believe the German league works this way (although I've not looked into the model) but how do you turn the likes of Newcastle, Man City, Man United, Chelsea etc from billionaire owners to the likes of Fred and Ethel and the Crowther's from across the road?
I just think that is wishful thinking from those who don't understand things from the other side of the fence to that of being a fan, point of view.
Anyway I've whittled on enough, I suspect you have some hard times ahead of you and that you probably knew most of what I've just said above.
I'm sorry that it is a Bolton fan (Bob) that is adding an unnecessary irritant to your already heavy burden but fingers crossed you come out of all this intact on the other side and for what it is worth Wigan (twice) and Derby have both managed to pull through recently, when all looked lost for them.
Keep the faith.