You'd Have To Be Dim To Vote Anything But Tory

Natasha Whittam wrote:Absolute bullshit - food banks appeared as a direct result of Labour.

I thought you were only concerned with facts? 

According to the Trussell Trust (who run food banks), use of them has risen 163% in the last 12 months. 

Also worth noting is the fact that more than half of people currently on benefits are employed. So the Tories can bang on all they like about how the economy is on the rise and it's all due to their 'long-term economic plan' it means fuck all when people are worse off than they were at the last election.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:I could be wrong but I don't remember food banks during the last Labour government. Perhaps it's something else we have got to thank the Tories for!

Absolute bullshit - food banks appeared as a direct result of Labour.

Im just hoping this is all part of your act and not real as i don't think anyone could really be as fucking stupid as your coming across

People really do have short term memories.

Bodes well for Labour.

It seems that whoever gets in we're fucked, its time for UKIP to sort the dullards out.

bwfc1874 wrote:
I thought you were only concerned with facts? 

According to the Trussell Trust (who run food banks), use of them has risen 163% in the last 12 months. 

I didn't say anything about an increase in use, I stated food banks were started as a result of the last Labour government.

Which is a fact.

Which is all I deal in.

Hipster_Nebula wrote:People really do have short term memories.

Bodes well for Labour.

From my perspective, at 24 this is the first time I've been engaged enough with politics to make what I'd consider an informed decision. 

So what you'd probably call naivety is me being optimistic about Labour and Miliband. I genuinely think that as a socialist he's concerned with making a fairer society, Blair was the most right wing Labour Prime minister ever from what I've read and seen of him, I genuinely think Ed wants to rectify that maybe in 10 years I'll feel differently.

bwfc1874 wrote:

From my perspective, at 24 this is the first time I've been engaged enough with politics to make what I'd consider an informed decision. 

Voting Labour isn't an informed decision.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:
I thought you were only concerned with facts? 

According to the Trussell Trust (who run food banks), use of them has risen 163% in the last 12 months. 

I didn't say anything about an increase in use, I stated food banks were started as a result of the last Labour government.

That's an unbelievably stupid way of looking at it.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

From my perspective, at 24 this is the first time I've been engaged enough with politics to make what I'd consider an informed decision. 

Voting Labour isn't an informed decision.

Yes you and AD seem really informed on politics.

bwfc1874 wrote:

Hipster_Nebula wrote:People really do have short term memories.

Bodes well for Labour.

From my perspective, at 24 this is the first time I've been engaged enough with politics to make what I'd consider an informed decision. 

So what you'd probably call naivety is me being optimistic about Labour and Miliband. I genuinely think that as a socialist he's concerned with making a fairer society, Blair was the most right wing Labour Prime minister ever from what I've read and seen of him, I genuinely think Ed wants to rectify that maybe in 10 years I'll feel differently.

I'm 30 and honestly after every election the party I've voted for have generally completely dismantled everything I felt positive about before it.

And I won't be surprised If the SNP do the same in this election.

bwfc1874 wrote:

That's an unbelievably stupid way of looking at it.

Love it. You're calling me stupid yet you're the one voting for a party who the last time they were in power took us to war and almost bankrupted the country.

Still, I'm sure it's a well informed decision.

1874 doesn't have a clue who to vote for, he keeps changing his mind.

Reebok Trotter wrote:Less than 10 years ago it was a fully operational hospital with 24 hours A & E and also had a premature baby unit. 
Today it is a shell of it's former self. The Baby Care unit was closed down due to cutbacks and early births in Trafford are now delivered at Salford Royal. Likewise there is no A & E after 8pm. 

A Labour government was in power when Burnley's A&E department closed in 2007. 

I would also say that the personality of the person you are voting for is in with the whole package and does have a little bit to do with it. 

Milliband is lame and he was chairman of HM Treasury's Economic Advisers when Labour were paying women of this country to have a career in spitting out babies for cash.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

That's an unbelievably stupid way of looking at it.

Love it. You're calling me stupid yet you're the one voting for a party who the last time they were in power took us to war and almost bankrupted the country.

Still, I'm sure it's a well informed decision

Very many countries went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan: you talk as if we were the only country that decided it was the right thing to do. Leaving evil to flourish can't be right, just as we couldn't let the Nazis have free rein in the 1930s, and we can't just allow Isis to wreak havoc now. Rwanda was an example of what can happen if you decide that "it's nothing to do with me. Let's just let innocent folk die."  

Don't forget as well that the Tories supported  Labour's decision to get involved militarily. Thatch was not exactly shy of war either, was she?! Falklands, anybody?

As regards the economic crisis, I think you'll find that the banks were largely to blame!

okocha wrote:
Don't forget as well that the Tories supported  Labour's decision to get involved militarily. Thatch was not exactly shy of war either, was she?! Falklands, anybody?

As regards the economic crisis, I think you'll find that the banks were largely to blame!

Argentina invaded the Falklands, a UK island. So we had to kick them out.

Iraq and Afghanistan were nothing to do with us.

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:
I thought you were only concerned with facts? 

According to the Trussell Trust (who run food banks), use of them has risen 163% in the last 12 months. 

I didn't say anything about an increase in use, I stated food banks were started as a result of the last Labour government.

Which is a fact.

Which is all I deal in.

But you don't know what gender you are do you?

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

From my perspective, at 24 this is the first time I've been engaged enough with politics to make what I'd consider an informed decision. 

Voting Labour isn't an informed decision.

Who says so?

Copper Dragon wrote:

Reebok Trotter wrote:Less than 10 years ago it was a fully operational hospital with 24 hours A & E and also had a premature baby unit. 
Today it is a shell of it's former self. The Baby Care unit was closed down due to cutbacks and early births in Trafford are now delivered at Salford Royal. Likewise there is no A & E after 8pm. 

A Labour government was in power when Burnley's A&E department closed in 2007. 

I would also say that the personality of the person you are voting for is in with the whole package and does have a little bit to do with it. 

Milliband is lame and he was chairman of HM Treasury's Economic Advisers when Labour were paying women of this country to have a career in spitting out babies for cash.

For fucks sake you live where the hills have eyes and you're going to vote tory? You must be the only living example of a brain transplant case!!!

okocha wrote:

Natasha Whittam wrote:

bwfc1874 wrote:

That's an unbelievably stupid way of looking at it.

Love it. You're calling me stupid yet you're the one voting for a party who the last time they were in power took us to war and almost bankrupted the country.

Still, I'm sure it's a well informed decision

Very many countries went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan: you talk as if we were the only country that decided it was the right thing to do. Leaving evil to flourish can't be right, just as we couldn't let the Nazis have free rein in the 1930s, and we can't just allow Isis to wreak havoc now. Rwanda was an example of what can happen if you decide that "it's nothing to do with me. Let's just let innocent folk die."  

Don't forget as well that the Tories supported  Labour's decision to get involved militarily. Thatch was not exactly shy of war either, was she?! Falklands, anybody?

As regards the economic crisis, I think you'll find that the banks were largely to blame!

actually the only countries that went into Iraq were us, the americans, Australia and as bush said "don't forget Poland!" 

going into Afghanistan was the seen to be the right thing to do because of 9/11 but it soon became clear it was a vendetta with absolutely no planning or genuine motives.

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