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931Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri May 31 2019, 13:30

Sluffy

Sluffy
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@observer wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:The Trumps are popping over for a cup of tea with the Queen and staying a few days, starting Monday.

Will you be cheering him on or boycotting McDonalds and all other Americanism's whilst he is on British soil?

Land of the free and the home of the brave and all that?
Would you mind keeping him on your soil for the next two years?  We would gladly load tea back on a ship in return.

Seem to remember it was all about your adopted lot dumping tea off a boat that started the chain of events that's led to Trump becoming the POTUS in the first place!

Serves you right!

932Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri May 31 2019, 13:33

observer


Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@Sluffy wrote:
@observer wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:The Trumps are popping over for a cup of tea with the Queen and staying a few days, starting Monday.

Will you be cheering him on or boycotting McDonalds and all other Americanism's whilst he is on British soil?

Land of the free and the home of the brave and all that?
Would you mind keeping him on your soil for the next two years?  We would gladly load tea back on a ship in return.

Seem to remember it was all about your adopted lot dumping tea off a boat that started the chain of events that's led to Trump becoming the POTUS in the first place!

Serves you right!
Hey... I offered to reload that boat for you and all I asked in return is that you keep Trump for a couple of years.  You managed to keep Assange for more time than that... this should be a lay-up for you.

933Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri May 31 2019, 13:38

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

934Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Fri May 31 2019, 13:55

Sluffy

Sluffy
Admin
@observer wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:
@observer wrote:
@Sluffy wrote:The Trumps are popping over for a cup of tea with the Queen and staying a few days, starting Monday.

Will you be cheering him on or boycotting McDonalds and all other Americanism's whilst he is on British soil?

Land of the free and the home of the brave and all that?
Would you mind keeping him on your soil for the next two years?  We would gladly load tea back on a ship in return.

Seem to remember it was all about your adopted lot dumping tea off a boat that started the chain of events that's led to Trump becoming the POTUS in the first place!

Serves you right!
Hey... I offered to reload that boat for you and all I asked in return is that you keep Trump for a couple of years.  You managed to keep Assange for more time than that... this should be a lay-up for you.

Never really understood the Assange story with Sweden and Ecuador being involved with an Australian publishing a sex changed American GI whistleblowing with apparently the help of the Russian KGB and him ending up in London?

Sounded miles too far fetched and contrived to me.

Whatever next would they have me believe, Trump enjoying water sports perhaps?

Equally I don't care much about the 'spare' (to the heir) with questionable parentage - ask yourself do William and Harry physically really look as though they sprang from the same well - finding himself some American bride (and the baggage she brings along with herself).

I'm ok with the need for the royalty but not the cast we have who plays them these days - apart from Liz who must be terribly disappointed with how her family has turned out.

Still better than the man with the modern day Bobby Charlton comb over I guess.

Although I do think it would have been far more fun if we had Trump instead of May leading us on Brexit!

935Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat Jun 01 2019, 10:07

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
He's endorsed BoJo as  someone who would make a great prime minister. Could this be the kiss of death for Boris?

936Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat Jun 01 2019, 10:14

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Hardly. The same kind of person who votes for Trump votes for Boris or Farage in this country.

937Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat Jun 01 2019, 11:30

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:Hardly. The same kind of person who votes for Trump votes for Boris or Farage in this country.

And your proof?

938Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat Jun 01 2019, 11:43

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
What's curious is that he has no right to make comments like this, interfering in other countries politics. But its Trump so all normal diplomatic rules are suspended.

939Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat Jun 01 2019, 11:50

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Here is an analysis of Trump voters published in the Journal of Social and Political Psychology by Psychologist and UC Santa Cruz professor Thomas Pettigrew:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjFnYqQjcjiAhXVShUIHagkDT8QFjACegQIBRAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.psychologytoday.com%2Fca%2Fblog%2Fmind-in-the-machine%2F201712%2Fanalysis-trump-supporters-has-identified-5-key-traits&usg=AOvVaw24N12ERrr8c1174oKduJth

This seems a pretty good match for the kind of people who support Farage/Boris/brexit.

940Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sat Jun 01 2019, 11:53

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@rammywhite wrote:What's curious is that he has no right to make comments like this, interfering in other countries politics. But its Trump so all normal diplomatic rules are suspended.

Remember the fake outrage when Obama commented on brexit? Apparently it is OK for American presidents to comment on British politics only when they support people like Boris and Farage.

941Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sun Jun 02 2019, 17:17

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
More Trump lies - no wonder he is a big fan of Boris and Farage:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48491602

942Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sun Jun 02 2019, 17:50

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Still waiting for you to provide proof to back up your wild claim from yesterday.

Let me guess, you couldn't find any.

943Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sun Jun 02 2019, 17:50

Hipster_Nebula

Hipster_Nebula
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
He meant nasty as in mean. It's being spun in some other way. For obvious reasons.

944Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Sun Jun 02 2019, 18:07

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Natasha Whittam wrote:Still waiting for you to provide proof to back up your wild claim from yesterday.

Let me guess, you couldn't find any.

Try actually reading my post and the link at 939.

945Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Mon Jun 03 2019, 17:15

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Obama.

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946Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 12:55

boltonbonce

boltonbonce
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

947Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 14:22

rammywhite

rammywhite
Frank Worthington
Frank Worthington
I can understand Jeremy Corbyn sticking by his principles but has he dropped an almighty bollock by not just snubbing invitations to events on Trump's itinerary in the UK, but by actively speaking out against him on public platforms. 
Jezza might soon be PM and he'll have to talk to other world leaders no matter how unsavoury they are. But the US is our closest ally and biggest trade partner and therefore the PM, no matter who he or she is, will have to engage positively with POTUS. We all know that Trump is undiplomatic, childishly petulant and sees politics as a personal affair. So has Jezza let the UK down badly by his attitude and approach as it might soon be his responsibility to represent us responsibly.
I think he has made a dreadful mistake by not attending events and saying the right thing. Trump will not forget this. I'm not saying we should kowtow to Trump but as a minimum Corbyn should have pitched up even if he doesn't want to

948Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 14:54

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Sadly rammy that is just what you would expect from Corbyn. He never loses an opportunity to say or do something that loses the Labour party votes and he is one of the biggest hypocrites in politics today.

Just look at the way Alistair Campbell is instantly expelled from the party whereas serial anti-semites might get a temporary suspension at worst and complaints about sexual harrassment are ignored if the offender is a Corbynista like John Prescott.

949Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 15:46

Angry Dad

Angry Dad
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Corbyn is a vile piece of shit who will never be PM .

950Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 15:55

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
"Mr Trump claimed there was potential for an agreement to double or even triple trade between the two nations after Brexit."

Who needs the EU.

951Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 15:58

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
Because Trump is a man of his word obviously. Rolling Eyes

952Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 16:04

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:Because Trump is a man of his word obviously. Rolling Eyes

You could say that about most politicians, you've spent the last three years saying so.

But it shows that there is massive potential to leaving the EU, people want to trade with us, and now we'll be able to negotiate our own deal rather than doing one that benefits other countries.

I predict that in 10 years the UK will be a utopia.

953Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 16:11

Norpig

Norpig
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse

954Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 16:18

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@xmiles wrote:Because Trump is a man of his word obviously. Rolling Eyes

You could say that about most politicians, you've spent the last three years saying so.

But it shows that there is massive potential to leaving the EU, people want to trade with us, and now we'll be able to negotiate our own deal rather than doing one that benefits other countries.

I predict that in 10 years the UK will be a utopia.

I am sure you will enjoy your chlorine flavoured chicken and hormone stuffed beef.

Seriously America will only want to trade with us on her terms and we will be in a much weaker negotiating position than when we are/were in the EU. Look at the trade talks with Japan. They have offered us a trade deal on worse terms than the exisating one with the EU. That is the reality not the fantasies of people like Liam (the easiest deal in human history) Fox.

955Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 16:43

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
That "deal" with Japan hasn't been signed so I'm not sure what your point is. Any negotiation starts miles apart.

What they offer and what we end up with will be two completely different deals, especially as they import more from us than we do from them.

The fact is, to a half full sort of person (me) this is an opportunity, to a half empty person it's scary because they don't like change.

956Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 16:56

Cajunboy

Cajunboy
Andy Walker
Andy Walker
@rammywhite wrote:I can understand Jeremy Corbyn sticking by his principles but has he dropped an almighty bollock by not just snubbing invitations to events on Trump's itinerary in the UK, but by actively speaking out against him on public platforms. 
Jezza might soon be PM and he'll have to talk to other world leaders no matter how unsavoury they are. But the US is our closest ally and biggest trade partner and therefore the PM, no matter who he or she is, will have to engage positively with POTUS. We all know that Trump is undiplomatic, childishly petulant and sees politics as a personal affair. So has Jezza let the UK down badly by his attitude and approach as it might soon be his responsibility to represent us responsibly.
I think he has made a dreadful mistake by not attending events and saying the right thing. Trump will not forget this. I'm not saying we should kowtow to Trump but as a minimum Corbyn should have pitched up even if he doesn't want to
Corbyn is not fit to be PM, he is still a student at heart.

Labour need to replace him with Keir Starmer as soon as possible.

957Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 17:14

karlypants

karlypants
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
Don’t you think this is rather pathetic that some cunt has done this when Mr. Trump has come for the D Day parade?

958Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 17:24

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Natasha Whittam wrote:That "deal" with Japan hasn't been signed so I'm not sure what your point is. Any negotiation starts miles apart.

What they offer and what we end up with will be two completely different deals, especially as they import more from us than we do from them.

The fact is, to a half full sort of person (me) this is an opportunity, to a half empty person it's scary because they don't like change.

It doesn't matter whether you are a half full or half empty person. It doesn't change the reality that the UK will always be in a weaker negotiating position outside the EU than it is as part of the EU. The EU is the second largest economy in the world; the UK is only about 15% of this. It's just reality - not that brexiteers are ever comfortable with reality.

959Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 17:56

Natasha Whittam

Natasha Whittam
Nat Lofthouse
Nat Lofthouse
@xmiles wrote:It doesn't matter whether you are a half full or half empty person. It doesn't change the reality that the UK will always be in a weaker negotiating position outside the EU than it is as part of the EU. The EU is the second largest economy in the world; the UK is only about 15% of this. It's just reality - not that brexiteers are ever comfortable with reality.

You're simplifying things, you clearly have no idea what goes on at a negotiation at this level.

They don't just get round a table and hash out the cheapest price, there are so many other things involved that will often be to the detriment of the UK.

For example, let's say a company in a country well outside the EU was trading with companies inside the EU. It's much easier to deliver a ship full of blow up sheep to the UK than it is to, say, Hungary or Slovakia for logistical reasons. But the deal has to be done incorporating what works for Hungary/Slovakia etc.

When we leave the EU expect the cost of blow up sheep to drop dramatically.

960Donald Trump for President of the USA - Page 32 Empty Re: Donald Trump for President of the USA on Tue Jun 04 2019, 18:52

xmiles

xmiles
Youri Djorkaeff
Youri Djorkaeff
@Natasha Whittam wrote:
@xmiles wrote:It doesn't matter whether you are a half full or half empty person. It doesn't change the reality that the UK will always be in a weaker negotiating position outside the EU than it is as part of the EU. The EU is the second largest economy in the world; the UK is only about 15% of this. It's just reality - not that brexiteers are ever comfortable with reality.

You're simplifying things, you clearly have no idea what goes on at a negotiation at this level.

They don't just get round a table and hash out the cheapest price, there are so many other things involved that will often be to the detriment of the UK.

For example, let's say a company in a country well outside the EU was trading with companies inside the EU. It's much easier to deliver a ship full of blow up sheep to the UK than it is to, say, Hungary or Slovakia for logistical reasons. But the deal has to be done incorporating what works for Hungary/Slovakia etc.

When we leave the EU expect the cost of blow up sheep to drop dramatically.


There is a big gap in your logic. In your example the country outside the EU is exporting blow up sheep ( Smile ) to countries inside the EU. After we leave the EU it will derive no benefit from exporting them to us for onward export to the UK. Why would this imaginary country want to strike a deal with us? And even if it did what is in it for us? We would have to pay EU tariffs on any blow sheep we exported to the EU and pay shipping costs.

C-. Must try harder.

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