wanderlust wrote: Sluffy wrote:
What would you prefer no deal with the USA, food prices rocket and people can't afford to eat?
People are using foodbanks now remember and unemployment is rocketing all the time with job losses due to coronavirus.
Nobody wanted to be in the position that we are but people need to afford to eat and it's only the same stuff as the American's themselves eat isn't it and they aren't dropping down dead are they through eating it are they?
You've got to face reality the UK is no longer a world power, we can no longer dictate our terms as we have done so for the last couple of century's.
We aren't in a position of strength to bargain/be heard anymore.
I blame that on the people who voted for Brexit - and you, let me remind you - are one of them!!!
I imagine some sort of deal will eventually be struck with the USA despite their legitimate concerns about the Good Friday Agreement, their statements about the UK being a low priority and our concerns about them getting a foothold in the NHS etc.
But it will be a shit deal compared to the deal that the EU will get given that they are a massive market compared to us and already do five times more bilateral trade with the USA than we do.
What I would prefer is to maintain EU food standards in order to facilitate a no tariff trade deal with the EU so that we can continue to get the low cost fresh quality food that we have enjoyed for many years now.
However this Government seems insistent on throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
You might prefer it, I might prefer it, the government probably would prefer it too but as it stands it simply an option, we either do what the EU want - free movement and all that or there isn't a deal - and if we don't want free movement and all that (and you voted for Brexit remember), then we have to trade with others somewhere else such as the USA and if lowering food standards to theirs (which doesn't seem that unreasonable does it - after all they are a world superpower after all and not some third world backwater or other?) then what choice are we left with?
I can't see how having no choice in the matter is viewed by you as throwing the baby out with the bath water.
When you voted for Brexit did you really think the EU would roll over and still give us everything what we had before? Hardly surprising then that they've played hardball with us then and May clearly didn't have no leverage against them did she?
I'm not fan of Boris but at least he called their bluff and if the EU really wants some ties with us (which they should) and us with them (which we should) then he's at least created some doubt in their minds as to us really leaving with no agreement.
Maybe it might work, maybe it doesn't and we crash out but what alternative was there - May's agreement that was rejected THREE times at Parliament.
There wasn't an alternative was there?
And if we crash out we probably eat the same chickens that all of America do, it's not like we are going to be eating poison or something is it?
Do I want to stay in the EU - yes
Is that a possibility - No
Do I want free trade with the EU - yes
Is that a possibility - unless the EU gives way some, no.
Do I want to have lower food safety - no
Do I eat American food when in America - yes
As it made me ill - no
If we crash out of the EU and we have to eat American chickens like they do, would that be a disaster - no I don't think it would and as it stands we might not have and other choice anyway!
Did I vote for Brexit and got us into the situation in the first place - no
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