wanderlust wrote:Openly lying without consequences has become normalised in the UK now.T.R.O.Y. wrote:
As ludicrous as they are we’ve entered a dangerous era under this government, they have no qualms openly lying on a regular basis and seemingly suffer no consequences.
With a complicit media and the absence of a credible opposition willing to up the ante there's no reason why these clowns shouldn't continue for years to come.
The populist public don't trust Labour or the media so they tend to believe what they want to believe and it's gotten to the point where Boris and his cronies could do almost anything and still be thought of as "naughty" rather than dishonorable and untrustworthy. Frankly Starmer's rational and honourable approach will not work these days.
To have any chance of removing them, the opposition requires a charismatic populist leader who is willing to hit the Tories hard on subjects that gel with the populist/nationalist psyche - and be willing to be as equally dishonourable in the fight - and that's not Starmer.
Taint the Tories with touchstone populist subjects such as child abuse, a lack of patriotism, selling out their supporters etc - it's a sad state of affairs but only by fighting hard and dirty with strong punchy messaging that will grab the headlines will they be removed - not sniping from the sidelines.
Right now, the Tories make the headlines and control the narrative whilst the opposition is merely commenting on them. That needs to change which means that they need far more aggressive messaging e.g. their attack on democracy needs to be strongly messaged as an attack on Britain and British values e.g. "greatest threat to our country since the Luftwaffe".
I would stop short of saying "how many more children like Arthur will die before the government changes it's social policies?" but the opposition needs to move the narrative much closer to that line to control the situation - and that means doing the research, getting the evidence, lining up the legals and then pouncing i.e. pretty much what Trump, the Tories and the Leave campaign did.
Because sadly, that's what our populist society responds to.
It's not even worth the effort to reply to this hysterical nonsense.
I've already shown you to be utterly bonkers if you think the press is in the pocket of the government (does the todays Times headline not give you a clue they are clearly not???) and Labour need to find a way of finding unity amongst themselves first and foremost before they can even begin to think of moving forward again - clearly an elected leader (Starmer) and a separately elected deputy (Rayner) clearly doesn't work - does it?
To be honest I think Labour are unelectable as they are now - which is a bad place for any democracy to be in when it gives its people only one electable party to choose from at the ballot box to form the government.
Any form of extremism in an attempt to rid the country of the Tory government will ultimately provoke a reaction from them and this is clearly what has happened on a small scale with the Times report on the intended changes to Judicial Reviews because of Maughan trying to politicise them in order to change ministerial decisions.